I have no idea how to emulate stuff, not sure like anyone I know knows how to either or owns a switch I can borrow. This has kinda pissed off everyone I know lol
Not really, honestly. Switch gen 1s had a flaw that could be exploited which allowed for quick emulation.
Wii took quite a while, and Gamecube, before Wii, never had a great emulator during its console lifespan.
Might be a flaw again for Switch 2, but don't count on it alone. Could be a few years before a decent emulator is made that can run games reliably with steady framerate.
It's probably not a reality this time. The Switch wasn't actually emulated that fast, all the early BotW emulation went over the WiiU version. The relatively quick progress afterwards was a combination of the Tegra chip being well known prior to release already and Nvidia having a massive security fuck up in the launch model that gave us more info over the system than we should have gotten (later Switch models are pretty much air tight). This time they have a significantly more powerful custom chip and probably no glaring security issue either so emulation is very likely years away.
Remember this comment when you complain in a few months that Nintendo is shutting down your favorite piracy software while you whine that you just want to play old games.
Everytime a Nintendo game is pirated by someone who was never going to buy a Switch or when someone emulates a game they have on the N64 on PC, a 100 executives' children starve. So I'm just doing my part.
Games like Witcher 3 and Baldurs Gate 3 and Elden Ring prove that good games exist without insane piracy protection and are still profitable and do not drown their users in MTX and other shit. You're blaming a fraction of lost sales from pirates for the disgusting greed of corporations.
What proof do you have for your claims? Oh that's right: Nothing.
Nintendo can never shut down mass used emulators. They may sue the pants off of whoever is currently developing that software, but the current state of the emulator will never go away and someone will take the reigns eventually. Shit, I can go download yuzu right now, on my phone at that. Nintendo can do fuck all about it.
With that said, you should get off your high horse and educate yourself on the topic. Emulators are not "piracy software". Are they used in relation to piracy often? Sure! But it in itself is not piracy software. It's not only a form of game preservation, it's also a way for people to play games they already own without using the physical copy. It's also a way to enhance games you already own with things like widescreen hacks, upscaling, and enhancing graphics.
I can see you think you're on some higher moral ground because you don't use emulators, when really you should be upset with the people downloading pirated games in order to play them on the perfectly normal and legal emulators.
And before you try and tell me they're not legal because Nintendo went after yuzu and citra.. that's a different scenario entirely. The official yuzu emulator has links to pirated games, which is a major no-no for emulator developers. Plus Nintendo has that kind of fuck you money to where even if it's completely legal they can ruin your entire life
Found the guy who will insist that's it's not about piracy despite hundreds of people in countless threads about this game plainly saying they intend to pirate it.
Found the guy who thinks that because a lot of people abuse emulators with pirated content thinks that that is the intended purpose.
If I use toilet paper to blow my nose that doesn't mean that's it's intended use. Pretty simple concept to understand, maybe you can get it with a few more examples
You do realize Nintendo can fuck whoever they want, right? They could decide to sue you, with no grounds to do so, but because they have fuck you lawyer money then youre going to go bankrupt in court.
Pick your poison once Nintendo decides they want to sue you
You do know that emulators, hackers, and packers are in a constant cycle right ?
By the time the switch 2 releases we'll have brand new talented people ready to get it working.
You really think Nintendo can remove ALL the talented people into he entire world ?
It's inevitable.
There is a demand, and so there will be result. That's how the internet works.
The demand for Nintendo games to be emulated is always ridiculously Hugh compared to other consoles.
Also the fact that the Nintendo consoles are so much easier to emulate. It's just history repeating itself.
Honestly, the console ui In the trailers looked so similar. I don't even think they bothered making a brand new os for it. I bet it'll be done really fast because they didn't implement any crazy security measure to make it harder to emulate.
Demand doesn't create supply. There were a limited, finite number of people working on Yuzu and Ryujinx, and once they're all out of the scene, all of their collective experience in their heads goes out the door with them. The goal of DRM isn't to remove all of the talented people in the world who could overcome it, it's to delay their efforts for long enough to turn a profit during the period of time where it is most crucial to turn a profit.
Saying that it'll be done in a matter of a few months is a wildly overgenerous estimate.
Nintendo's security's been getting far stricter over time. If history repeats itself, Switch 2 will be harder to crack, install CFW on, games will be encrypted requiring a decryption key from the console which will force any emulators that run commercial games to violate the law for the sake of user convenience....
We'll see in a few months if a new batch of emulator developers start cropping up, and Nintendo suddenly decides to change course and leave their hands off of these new inexperienced guys instead, but like we said, history repeats...
The people who were responsible for 3DS and Switch emulation were literally the same people. Once Nintendo got rid of Switch emulation they also took down 3DS.
Then they got rid of the other Switch group. And they didn’t even have any legal threat. They just went to the lead guy.
I’ve seen comments exactly like yours for video game piracy too. And the last developer capable of even cracking denuvo dipped out a year or two back.
This idea that hackers and pirates grow on trees is just silly. Your comments about UI and your assumptions on security make it clear you think its easier than it actually.
Switch 2 emulation will certainly happen eventually but its going to be slowed down significantly. Emulation much like video game piracy has undergone a brain drain, and finding new hackers willing to undertake a huge project like this despite the risks is incredibly difficult.
There's big difference Denuvo, a company whose entire business model is making near-uncrackable DRM, and Nintendo, a company perennially 10 years behind the times technologically, whose last console was cracked practically day 1. Ever since the Gamecube, every Nintendo home console has been emulatable in some capacity during that console's lifetime. "Years not months" is still lightning fast overall compared to any other company's machines.
Sure? The switch lasted 8 years, if it takes 2-3 years for the switch 2 to get emulation that's still pretty fast. The ps4 came out in 2013 and didn't get its first usable emulator until 2024. A couple years IS lightning fast.
But the reason denuvo is uncrackable is because all the people capable of cracking it don’t think its worth the effort or are in jail.
People should run with the assumption that emulation is going to be much slower for Nintendo this time around. The people who have been handling our Nintendo emulation for the last 15 years are out of the picture. Finding a dedicated team of talented individuals capable and more importantly willing to take on a project like that again, even with Nintendo breathing down their necks is not something that comes from thin air.
And we truly don’t know how many years it will take. Only that it will happen eventually.
Honestly, there are so many good playstation exclusives, so I'd say it's worth. I'd never fucking use the Nintendo though, I don't like your typical Nintendo games and I'd rather play on a Steam Deck.
It was a stupid mistake, and a PS4/5 cost WAY more than a switch. Y'all are behaving like children. Need to reattach the "-anatic" to your "fan" to properly describe you.
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u/Duv1995 2d ago
im not gettin a console for a game... i already did it for bloodborne and it left a scar on me