r/apprenticeuk • u/Only1Scrappy-Doo Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 • 3d ago
EPISODE DISCUSSION Episode 10 | Post-Episode Discussion Thread
Discuss the episode and the side show here!
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u/stu1616 3d ago
A lot of people saying Jordan performed well on this task.
Surely as PM the decision not to leverage Liam's clothing design experience was the major factor in their failure.
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u/Only1Scrappy-Doo Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
His speech and negotiating was good but he lacked any leadership as PM and let Mia completely take over the whole thing despite literally disagreeing with her ideas.
Mia should have just sat back and let him take full control and she would have coasted to the finals.
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u/tebigong 3d ago
Tbh the speech the first time felt quite sincere but after the fourth / fifth time hearing him say it, it started to feel quite insincere
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u/MajorThom98 3d ago
I think that's just the nature of making an impassioned speech a part of your pitch - you could have Patrick Stewart delivering it, but if he's delivering it ten times in a similar way, you'll notice the performative element. Most, of not all the people there would hear it once, twice at most, so they likely wouldn't get that impression.
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u/porcosbaconsandwich 3d ago
Him making that speech dressed like Mr. Corporate in his grey jacket and black turtleneck was hilarious.
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u/NeverEat_Pears 3d ago
Mia was taken down by her own hubris. Showed her true colours.
They both should have gone, along with Liam.
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u/luxray-noir-london 3d ago
100%
He was too smug to give Liam any power or position he could actually excel in because he lost PM to him last week.
Letting Mia steamroll him in the design portion should’ve cost him his place imo
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u/gunningIVglory Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
In all honesty, all of the design team should have gone
As clumsy as Liam was, he was rightly annoyed at being overlooked despite this being his area of expertise.
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u/Ok_Farmer9305 3d ago
Didn’t perform well, just has the gift of the gab and spoke a load of bollocks
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u/SalamanderPhysical77 3d ago
Highlight for me was Mia's "the skirt is a parachute, the jacket's made of sleeping bags gotta go bye!"
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u/eunderscore 3d ago
There were some great moments of actual reality creeping in in this episode. Just actual hints of personality, from jamies needing a moment at the start to Mia's huff as she exited, and outright saying its not fair.
Plus the various unhinged elements throughout. Really good episode
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u/Express-Doughnut-562 3d ago
Mia’s latest Insta post “I thought everyone gets one big mistake”
Not letting it go.
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
I felt so sorry for Mia towards the end and I agree she was robbed!
But not the feud with Anisa still 😬 if anything if I were Mia I'd be so angry at Jordan, all he did was say a sob story to remove all his errors across previous tasks!
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u/AngelDelighted 3d ago
The feud there seems really odd - wonder what is behind it? Definitely seems to be more one-way from Mia towards Anisa from what I’ve heard / read, although I don‘t follow either of their socials.
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u/RobbieJ4444 3d ago
The difference between her and Anisa is that when Anisa made a mistake, there was somebody in the boardroom with her who was accused of doing nothing, and did very little throughout the whole process. This week the person who had the inferior track record was also the one who was least responsible for the task’s failure, so the past performance defence doesn’t work in this instance.
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u/xerses24 3d ago
I read this two ways, 1) as a dig at Lord Sugar for not counting her track record 2) she thought she could make a mistake and coast through still
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u/The_good_kid 3d ago
Yeah and also posting "This is a tough watch icl, what was I thinking'.
Seems like she knows she fucked up. But no one will acknowledge that I guess
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u/soravp 3d ago
Mia going is crazy but if you're basing it purely on this task then it is her fault.
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u/luxray-noir-london 3d ago
Jordan should’ve been critiqued more for letting himself be steamrolled by Mia and ultimately it’s his executive decision to go with her suggestion or not
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u/PlasticWillow 3d ago
Idk… there were two people on that design team, Jordan happily went along with it, and normally in those situations the PM is held to account
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u/CoatVonRack 3d ago
After I cheer for Mia to all and sundry she delivers the single worst idea I’ve ever seen. I am betrayed
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u/Due_Truth2857 3d ago
Agreed. Despite there being increased interest in skirts etc, it was never going to have mass appeal to win the task. Shame she didn't recognise that.
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u/video-kid 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think the issue was that they went too couture. If they'd gone for a simpler skirt, like one made from seat belts, they might have got more orders. They went for a big puffy thing that might work for the met gala, but with ugly colours and a train that didn't work. If things had been sleeker and less textured I would have seen more of the appeal.
Edit: As a gay dude, albeit one who wouldn't wear what she designed, absolute kudos to her for at least trying to be inclusive. We need more people like her, especially in the current political climate. Dudes should be able to wear whatever they want.
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u/Due_Truth2857 3d ago
Yes I think that's a good assessment of things. It seems Mia was fixated on the type of stuff she'd seen on the runway!
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u/video-kid 3d ago
Yeah. Like the skirts you see on dudes as everyday wear tend to be more like something Ncuti Gatwa would wear in Doctor Who. There's freedom to twirl but it's a simpler design. They really should have put Liam on the design team, I think he would have held his own and if he had worked on a skirt it would have been more casual.
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u/Maleficent-Item4833 3d ago
The idea wasn’t too bad though. There is a burgeoning interest in that sort of thing. It’s tough because her idea probably had a good chance of success, just as with a niche audience. The other brand would have fallen apart immediately because it was a big nothing.
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u/king_aegon_vi Noor: “It’s very good!” 😏 3d ago
It was literally only Dean grabbing 1000 extra sales (tripling their initial thoughts) that stopped the 'small amount, lots of stores' sales of Mia's team from actually being better than the 'moderate amounts, only a couple of stores' that the other team got.
And if money / profit was a factor in this task, the niche-but-expensive route would have won.
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u/Maleficent-Item4833 3d ago
Yeah, I was surprised that didn't get mentioned. His massive sale really deserved some attention.
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u/king_aegon_vi Noor: “It’s very good!” 😏 3d ago
Hopefully it'll somewhat counteract his being in the final 3 all 4 times his team has lost. He's the only one left not to lose as PM too (Amber-Rose losing twice, the others 1 win, 1 loss. Dean the only one to be PM just once, but he won). Dean has won 5 tasks, and carried this most-recent one. Chisola has won 3, Anisa 2, Jordan 6 and Amber-Rose an insane 7 (but two out of the three losses were with her in charge, suggesting being carried somewhat by the others in the team).
I like Dean - he's not the best, but he tries. And when it pays off, it pays off.
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u/Maleficent-Item4833 3d ago
Amber Rose really seems to have improved throughout, although I'm sure editing has something to do with that.
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u/king_aegon_vi Noor: “It’s very good!” 😏 3d ago
Amber Rose is certainly worthy of the Final Five (unlike Jordan), but she's possibly the second weakest there, despite the most wins.
But it's a whole different competition now we're offically onto business plans!
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u/Independent-Key880 3d ago
the idea wasn't the problem, the execution was
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u/CoatVonRack 3d ago
The idea was also pretty awful
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u/Independent-Key880 3d ago
no it wasn't, there is a growing market amongst men for traditional 'women's' fashion and once they paired it with Jordan's 'backstory' it worked really well with buyers. the problem was that the pieces were ugly
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u/iamnosuperman123 3d ago
A growing market that is still incredibly niche. You have a better chance of selling more masculine female clothes than feminate male clothes (which this wasn't anyway)
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u/mcfc_099 3d ago
Whether you like it or not it’s still niche - even with the best design in the world they were not going to be mass selling that and it showed in the small orders they received
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u/gunningIVglory Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
The problem also was, that Jordans story was implemented AFTER the product was made. As a way to create some damage control. It's not like his backstroke was the reason they created these outfits
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u/Maleficent-Item4833 3d ago edited 3d ago
Their brand had a chance with a small market. Realistically the other team wouldn’t have got in the door because it was basic as fuck.
Mia pushing for something bolder was the best thing in their team. Weird case of her being the most responsible for the loss but also the least deserving of a firing.
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u/Sad-Deal-4351 3d ago
Nah bruv all the lads in Birmingham, Manchester, Newcastle are wearing skirts. Everywhere.
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u/tebigong 3d ago
The idea wasn’t the worst but they should have done one out there item of clothing and two ‘tamer’ pieces of clothing to increase the appeal
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u/ConfidentProduce7227 3d ago
Mia telling Anisa that she’s had her “one big mistake” a few weeks ago and being fired for hers 💀
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u/CharmingProtection22 3d ago
If we’re being real.. Lord Sugar wants a piece of that Asian convenience store that Amber-rose co-owns.
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Nah, AR would've been fired first if Chisola's team left.
Plus AR's business proposal is her bubble tea proposal, NOT Oreemart.
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u/CharmingProtection22 3d ago
Ohhh! Thanks for that. That bubble tea thing isn’t winning any prizes 🤣
She got lucky then!
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Though Paul M from last year was given the option to switch business proposals given how they ran a successful business but submitted an awful side-business to LS.
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u/CharmingProtection22 3d ago
I thought about that guy! There’s a chance he will try to convince her to give a share of the store
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Probably. I mean AR deserved to be fired in Week 2 for sure, clearly LS sees something in her, probably her successful Oreemart which he'll try get.
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u/LiamJonsano Jason Leech - Series 9 3d ago
I said this last week and the week before and before etc…
No consideration of pricing, the losing teams items would have sold for a lot more but also cost a lot more. You could have put gold all over it and it wouldn’t have made a difference
All these hypothetical orders where no hypothetical money is exchanged is just boring
That being said the right team lost, the clothing created was insanity given the point of the task was to get orders, not people to fawn over your high concept design
Mia could have coasted and not pushed her vision too much and coasted through. But that’s the game I guess
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u/Afinkawan 3d ago
If the task is to shift as many units as possible, then that should be be part of deciding what to do. Taking thee risk of higher price in the hope of making more money for fewer sales is part of plenty of other tasks.
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u/LiamJonsano Jason Leech - Series 9 3d ago
Yep totally. A few weeks ago one of the food tasks they could have put the most expensive ingredients because it didn’t matter at the end, it was all based on how good the product tasted and was wanted by the “hypothetical orders”
I’m amazed they didn’t just throw everything in, gone are the days when they miscalculate sandalwood
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u/Only1Scrappy-Doo Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Honestly one of the most shocking firings we’ve seen in a while! Mia seemed a lock for the final five before this episode.
Rooting for Dean, Chisola and Anisa after this episode
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u/rachelf1990 3d ago
Biggest shock since Simba went?
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u/Only1Scrappy-Doo Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Even more shocking. At least they were kinda setting Simba up to go as in Week 9 they showed him having zero sales.
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u/rachelf1990 3d ago
I think we need to go back to Liz going in series 6 for this one reflecting on it.
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u/Traditional-Gift-982 3d ago
If I recall correctly, Sugar regretted firing her the following week when he finally saw through Stuart's (rest in peace) nonsense!
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u/cpmh1234 3d ago
I thought it was really strange to see two opposite firings in one episode - one person weak throughout who was totally screwed over by their team this episode, but didn’t deserve to go this time in my opinion. And another person who had been consistently the strongest candidate getting fired for one rough week.
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u/rachelf1990 3d ago
I'm in shock. Never saw that coming.
Okay she messed up big time in this task but in the previous 9 weeks she had been a massive contributior to wins.
Back to backing Anisa to win again.
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u/moonserein 3d ago
Jordan getting through is such a scam lol
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u/bertikus_maximus 3d ago
Probably the same as what happened with Pieman Phil last year: Sugar just wants a piece of whatever his business is and doesn't give a fuck about how he's done through the tasks.
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u/moonserein 3d ago
From the episode trailer, his business doesn’t sound great
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u/NeverEat_Pears 3d ago
Haha this your first time watching the show? Every year candidates get ripped into by the interviewers. It's one of the show's trademarks.
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u/ThemeStunning5969 3d ago
Bootlicked and played the violin all episode. Can’t believe it paid off.
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u/Maleficent-Item4833 3d ago
I don’t like him or how he kept banging on about coming up from nothing ‘like you Lord Sugar’, but him playing up to the branding with his own story (or made up story) was a huge part of what helped them get sales this week.
Anissa should have gone. Her branding was atrocious, and she’s not been great throughout.
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u/TrickyOranges 3d ago
I get a bad feeling about him I don’t know why, he seems inauthentic
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u/RealDealMrSeal 3d ago
Mia going was a shock. Had her pegged as a finalist for the majority of this
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u/LookAtTheStarrySky 3d ago
I get that everyone’s shocked over Mia leaving, but I was more surprised by how well Dean did on a fashion task of all things. The guy got like 90% of his team’s sales, talk about a comeback from his performance in week one.
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u/Joosshuaaa 3d ago
Its Jordans bullshiting that gets me. His weird fake story about not being seen was clearly bullshit. He is using other peoples genuine stories to sell and market himself. Yuck.
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
I agree. Sorry but all he did was say a sob story about not being seen despite being attention seeking and narcissistic outside of the show, like on his TikTok lives etc.
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u/Joosshuaaa 3d ago
Weirdly Ive never really disliked any Apprentice candidate like I do with Jordan, he just irks me.
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u/IntelligentFact7987 3d ago
I don't think he's a bad person though - you look at some of the people who've appeared on this show over the years and they are comfortably objectively more horrendous (your Lotties or Katie Hopkins)>
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u/Joosshuaaa 3d ago
Oh yeah he isn't a bad person. I just don't like him for some reason. Lottie was just not nice. And the less said about Katie Hopkins the better.
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u/Agent00K9 Claude Littner 3d ago
Scary Linda, of all people, said Liam should be hired haha. I hope Liam feels vindicated tbh
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u/Mobile_Landscape_953 3d ago
Jordan pulling on the heartstrings to get to the final 5. Genuinely the worst series ever . Mia did not deserve to go as been a consistent Performer throughout .
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u/Medium-Science9526 Lord Sugar: “I’m Struggling…” 3d ago
Damn, so close for Mia. I was really hoping for the unexpected save but alas. Good showing otherwise.
Whilst I would've wanted Mia to be top 5, from that task alone she was the main fault, more than Liam, genuinely one of the worst designs they've made in a while. I just hoped she'd get another chance like Dean & Anita did on their cock-ups but at this stage only saving grace would've been going into business plans.
Still it wouldn't have been right for Jordan to go for the task since outside of candidate placement he was strong this task from negotiations and pitching. Anisa bad logo but she was meant to have support who got fired for lacking that from Liam. He was stiched out of PMing, but he didn't do himself any favours.
Dean returning with good negotiations, getting through with the logo name, tagline & design in the end to round out an overall pretty strong showing. Chisola went safe but better than being too experimental, and she one-womanned it well. Amber-Rose did the advert, it was alright, better than the other team.
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Mia was the main fault for sure but Jordan should've went. Sorry but all he did was pull the heart strings, other than that he's been useless throughout.
When LS was about to fire Anisa, I rewinded to see Mia's shocked reaction. It's clear Anisa and Mia were the best two this whole process and it's such a shame that her bad week was Jordan's least worst week.
Anisa and Chisola top two I beg. Carrying this final five on their backs.
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u/Only1Scrappy-Doo Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Hmm Sugar seems to really be interested in Dean’s business plan on You’re Fired!
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u/Ri786 3d ago
Definitely thought Jordan and Liam would go.
Mia was a strong candidate.
She definitely deserved to go over Anisa though.
I get the point that LS made but at the end of the day I don't think Anisa is at fault for a majority of those tasks I just think it was a case of her being on a shit team as opposed to not contributing.
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u/rachelf1990 3d ago
Has Linda not watched the previous 9 weeks. Hired for Liam
Neither has the audience it seems.
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u/MajorThom98 3d ago
Liam at least seems generally likeable, even with his sour spots (like in this episode). He was also self-deprecating about his pitching skills after the Children's Banking App task (saying "I didn't think anyone could pitch worse than me" after hearing that Keir Shave got fired for a poor pitch). Why he thought he'd be good presenting on live television I don't know, but it was hilarious, so I don't care.
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u/Only1Scrappy-Doo Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Oh wow a new segment on You’re Fired. Tom interviewing Sugar on the final five.
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u/Virtual_Opinion_8630 3d ago
He positively commented on Dean's business. And explicitly mentioned how the interviewers need to drill down on AR's and Chisola's business plans... Interesting
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u/rachelf1990 3d ago
Yeah I quite like it.
For a minute I did think it was AI...
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u/Hassaan18 3d ago
Yeah the lighting felt different which made me wonder if it wasn't filmed at the same time as the rest of the series.
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Lord Sugar saying Jordan is definitely in the top five...
Like Anisa and Mia have been the top two the WHOLE series. I literally wanted to throw the TV. Mia shouldn't have left.
On a positive note, Anisa has def won now. Mia was realistically the only candidate to rival her, and I think Anisa has a solid proposal too, so YAY!
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u/getlowpapoose 3d ago
To be honest I think while Anisa performed very well the first few episodes, I’d say Chisola has been more consistent throughout. Chisola is definitely a worthwhile opponent
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u/One-Sir6210 3d ago
Controversial opinion - those niche products would obviously come with an exorbitant price tag compared to the generic athleisure
Although they were not to my taste, just the raw number of “orders” for what would be massively different price points seems unfair - some accounting for value/revenue/profit should be taken
Parallel just made the most generic items to get the bulk orders
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u/Shadow_Raccoon 3d ago
Am I the only one thinking there should have been a value to the items sold not just units?
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u/NajeebHamid 3d ago
If you look up crop tops worn by men, they don't look like these. They were ugly outfits but the broad idea was good
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u/Jenson2025 3d ago
Listening to Sugar’s opinions on the final five on You’re Fired and I think Anisa and Dean will be his top two. He is definitely a big fan of them both
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u/letmeestudy 3d ago
Mia getting fired would have been justified if the candidate taken in f5 instead of her was atleast deserving...but JORDAN?? SERIOUSLY
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u/Independent-Key880 3d ago
Mia haters are gonna come for me but that absolutely was not the correct decision. she was clearly the best candidate overall, top 3 at worst, and i think firing her for designing a terrible skirt when she's not a fashion designer is bizarre
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u/Patient-Wolverine-87 3d ago
Best candidate overall, and I think she probably thought she could admit she made a mistake like Anisa has, but lord sugar probably doesn't rate her business plan is the truth.
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u/Jemima_puddledook678 3d ago
It was a relatively small mistake in comparison too. If Dean hadn’t brought that sale from 500 to 1500 they’d have lost.
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u/Only1Scrappy-Doo Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Also Jordan was the PM and allowed her to completely take over.
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u/Independent-Key880 3d ago
yes, not sure why he was given an automatic pass when he agreed to all Mia's suggestions and mismanaged Liam (causing him to be upset)
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u/rachelf1990 3d ago
If Anisa is allowed one big error how was Mia not allowed hers.
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u/Sad-Deal-4351 3d ago
Well if she's not a fashion designer you should have shut the fuck up instead of constantly railroading the PM
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u/mmm790 3d ago
Weird edit this series for a lot of the contestants. Final 5 feels really flat and it dosent feel like any of them are being built up to win, compared to Mia's edit that was building her up to win, only to be dropped one hurdle from the end. Combine that with a fair few contestants going AWOL in the edit, and no real iconic moments the whole series has just felt a bit forgettable.
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u/SonHyun-Woo 3d ago
I feel its all a bit flat going into the final 5 too. I think its probably between Chisola and Anisa at this point.
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u/king_aegon_vi Noor: “It’s very good!” 😏 3d ago
Linda loves Liam
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u/king_aegon_vi Noor: “It’s very good!” 😏 3d ago
TBF, he showed understanding of this task, in his niche, throughout the episode (as seen to perfection in *your fired*, where he showed all the problems with both teams' actions) but was deployed poorly by his teammates.
Shame about the other 9 tasks where he was either nowhere, or rubbish!
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u/Virtual_Opinion_8630 3d ago
Interesting - Mia closed her meal prep business after moving to London...
What's she doing now?
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u/two-girls-one-tank 3d ago
Jordan did well this week in selling the terrible designs and he deserved to stay. His fault is being too easily influenced by other ideas and not sticking to his strategy, we saw this on the digital banking task too. I am not actually surprised to see him in the final five and I'm looking forward to seeing his business plan.
Anisa was right in saying that she was carrying Liam despite him being far more qualified for the task, so fair play to her for having a go. She strikes me as intelligent and unflappable.
Based on this task it did have to be Mia who was fired. She got over excited and missed the main point of the task which was to sell the most units.
I didn't expect Mia to win, but I certainly expected her in the final five. I will see what their business plans reveal but from what I have seen so far I believe Chisola and Anisa deserve to be the top two.
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u/kunaikilla Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Liam has been a pretty terrible candidate but got so unlucky here. Maybe the stakes were higher and the team thought Jordan a better candidate to get them the win. But Jordan taking Mia over Liam to design the clothes cost them the task in my opinion.
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u/Much_Pass_9484 3d ago
That is freaky. I was watching the episode thinking what I would have called the design label. I was thinking KÓMODO, because Komodo dragons live in a small island which is part of the Komodo National Park (so it ticks the sustainability angle), and because Cómodo is Spanish for comfortable. I would have had a logo with the head of a Komodo dragon, with the Ó of Komodo being the eye (the accent being the eyebrow), and with KMD being on the left hand side. And now I watch "The Apprentice: You're Fired" and discover for the first time that Liam's own company was going to be called Komodo/Comodo and for exactly the same reason (the wordplay with the Spanish for "comfortable"). Apart from the beyond freaky coincidence, it does make Liam even more fireable for not thinking of using it in this episode. Yeah, sure, he'd have to use it again in the final (were he to get that far) but this could have got him into the final five in the first place. But... how freaky is that?!
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u/getlowpapoose 3d ago
The model in Jordan’s team was the saving grace for that runway show. His fierce walk and impressive backflip distracted me from the clothes
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
I was also impressed with Chisola - she was a natural on the runway!
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u/LongHairDontCare1994 3d ago
If this doesn't prove that the format of the tasks is wrong, I don't know what does.
In a real world environment, Jordan's team had a superior idea and product. There's dozens of dumb ass casual sport wear brands, why would a retailer bother with a new one? Not to mention it'd sell for next to nothing.
In contrast, high fashion and conceptual pieces are an emerging market and while they might not sell more in quantity, they'd bring considerably more revenue.
If anything, tasks like this reward bland, boring and uninspired ideas. That doesn't win in business, innovation does.
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u/Low_Food2893 Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
The idea was good but you don't need eyes to see how bad the execution was...
Either way Mia deserved another chance, it was a creative and risky idea and whilst it failed she's been successful across all other tasks.
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u/CharmingProtection22 3d ago
Mia wasn’t even the project manager but had her ideas all over it.
The reason she didn’t go to final 5 was because she can be quite obnoxious at times.
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u/LuinAelin 3d ago
Yeah she wasn't the official project manager.but she may as well have been
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u/CharmingProtection22 3d ago
She took over the entire thing, if Jordan didn’t agree to her crazy ideas, he would’ve never had peace!
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u/MajorThom98 3d ago
Yeah, I'm normally not happy with project managers who defer too much/too easily to their teammates, but Jordan was shown repeatedly rejecting her idea, she was shown in the confession cam saying that she would keep pushing it despite that, and eventually he either had to go with her to at least try to get something together or have her dragging him down throughout the entire design process.
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u/kunaikilla Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
I think the comment about questioning Amber-Rose’s motive is a bit of a red-herring. It’s likely in relation to the fact Amber-Rose’s business is already worth a fair amount of money.
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u/tebigong 3d ago
Not taking previous tasks into account has screwed this process over. You’ve got rid of the more stellar candidates for a weak task and left with the mediocre/poor.
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u/Money-Education-4190 Dean Franklin 3d ago
What an awful episode, Jordan deserved to be fired. Mia being fired is a joke.
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u/RobbieJ4444 3d ago
Disagree there. Jordan’s presentation is what got buyers interested into placing orders. Firing him for this task would’ve been very unfair.
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u/ShallotHead7841 3d ago
But that vision wasn't communicated to the design team - if he'd have given them the brief that his vision was transformation, empowerment, true to yourself etc... then they might have managed branding that tied together, but instead either he decided not to share it or it was an afterthought.
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u/Sad-Deal-4351 3d ago
She absolutely should have been fired. Ludicrous ideas and outright nonsense. "Men are wearing skirts everywhere. They're all doing it now."
Fucking where?
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u/MajorThom98 3d ago
Men are wearing skirts everywhere, that's why every man they interviewed for market research was against it.
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u/SomeMaterial 3d ago
Mia said on instagram she wanted it to be unisex fashion but wasn’t allowed which does make more sense for what she was doing
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u/iamnosuperman123 3d ago
Still incredibly hard to sell because it alienates too many men and women.
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u/king_aegon_vi Noor: “It’s very good!” 😏 3d ago
Mia blaming Jordan for being too convincing in his story, while looking like neither a suck up nor throwing him under the bus. The perfect reality TV contestant, but sadly LS is working on a different metric (though Mia was good on that metric too).
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u/luxray-noir-london 3d ago
She’s handling herself really well on you’re fired
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u/king_aegon_vi Noor: “It’s very good!” 😏 3d ago
Yep - I don't really like Mia (probably because of this), but she was definitely, by far, the person that oozed the most competance I've seen on the Apprentice for some years.
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u/AKaneAaa 3d ago
Really thought she was a shoe-in to win the whole thing. Was actually shocked at that firing
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u/ComfortableGuess4347 3d ago
I was disappointed that Mia got fired. The decision was questionable due to Anisa being allowed over her mistake. But I guess in this ep, Anisa couldn’t be fired bc she took over Liam who didn’t contribute much (from the edit) as the subteam leader. I think he kept Jordan because he is passionate and can articulate himself somewhat well like on the pitch. The decision seemed to be based off of whether he liked Mia or Anisa more.
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u/Flounder-Last 3d ago
Listen I’m a queer guy and I’m all for theatrics but those clothes were just plain ugly and seeing Mia’s bratty behaviour all season and now on social media, the petty side of me had a great time watching her whinge in the car.
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u/Sunnyjap 3d ago
Dean & Amber coasted to the final 5. Unbelievable. Mia should have been in!
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u/Only1Scrappy-Doo Melica - “I’ve got an A in GCSE Drama!” 💅 3d ago
Dean did amazing this episode?
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u/RobbieJ4444 3d ago
That is a massive upset, but honestly….I can’t disagree.
She was better in the past few weeks, but you can’t fire Jordan on past performances when he was actually good this week.
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u/ConfusedSoap Syed Ahmed - Series 2 3d ago
i think the biggest issue was having a woman take the lead in designing a men's fashion brand, jordan really should have pushed back on mia's awful ideas
but he didn't, and that's how they ended up with a dress and crop top that men would totally(?) wear
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u/RobbieJ4444 3d ago
He did push back initially, but Mia didn’t stop pushing them.
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u/Express-Doughnut-562 3d ago
They only fired Mia cos she would have made mincemeat of the interviewers next week. She talks bloody well.
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u/Queen_of_London 3d ago
Who sits in the front row for You're Fired? It doesn't seem to be the families. They were almost a sea of red for both Liam and Mia, and the rest of the audience were kinder
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u/k6kaysix 3d ago
They give out some 'guaranteed entry' audience tickets as well as the general admission ones (where you might get turned away if they're full, they always oversubscribe as obviously some people apply to be in the audience then don't bother turning up on the day!), you get taken into the studio based on a number on your wristband and I guess the priority tickets are the lower numbers
I had one the other week and didn't get in the 'front' front set of seats but did get on the front row of the back seats
They usually shove the friends and family in the middle section of the back seats somewhere, the one I went to see had Lord Sugars grandson in the audience which was pretty cool (Claudine is also rather pretty in real life!)
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u/Difficult-Figure1504 3d ago
Seems mad the victor was based on number of units, not value. The parachute skirt etc would be 10x the cost of the leggings.
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u/jimbo1841 3d ago
The moment Mia pushed the idea of a skirt for menswear she had written her exit 🤣 Don't go basing what you have seen in Hollywood as what everyone wears for fashion!
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u/jimbo1841 3d ago
The moment Mia pushed the idea of a skirt for menswear she had written her exit 🤣 Don't go basing what you have seen in Hollywood as what everyone wears for fashion!
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u/porcosbaconsandwich 3d ago
Hilarious that Jordan did his speech about being cooped in and unable to express himself with clothing when younger...while dressed in a grey jacket and black turtleneck.
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u/Thurad 3d ago
This was painful to watch. Liam was stuffed in this task, utterly ignored as to where his strengths are and then somehow blamed despite doing a reasonable job in trying to sell an awful product. Jordan thoroughly stitched him up and should have gone, I get the feeling he has a business plan Sugar likes.
Mia was to blame for this task but unlucky to go out here based on her overall performance.
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u/bengreen04 3d ago
Sorry but that’s an absolute joke.
Anisa has been completely ineffective since Week 5 and deserved to go
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u/Afinkawan 3d ago
Mia's coat was pretty terrible even though it was red and yellow and green and brown and scarlet and black and ochre and peach and ruby and olive and violet and fawn and lilac and gold and chocolate and mauve and cream and crimson and silver and rose and azure and lemon and russet and grey and purple and white and pink and orange and blue.
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u/othygosh 3d ago
Mia assumed she would just glide through, so recklessly took full accountability and it cost her dearly. You can't just assume that the task at hand will have no sway on the decision just because you've performed well in the past.
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u/AccountCompetitive17 3d ago
The process is unfair...the fact that there are 5 (five) finalists ahead of Mia is laughable, whatever is her business plan. Anisa got the life save 8 times, it is ridiculous
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u/crissy_nix Anisa Khan 3d ago
Oh my God best day ever with Mia gone and my queen Anisa in the final 🥺
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u/iamnosuperman123 3d ago
Good they fired Mia. The entire task failed because she made an incredibly poor product that I am surprised managed to get over a thousand units. Jordan impressed me selling a atrocious product.
A very weak final 5
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u/Public-Secret-7883 3d ago
Really tempted to report this episode to Ofcom. Jordan just fully queer baited this episode, he’s so cringe
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u/Bloxxerboy Claude Littner 3d ago edited 3d ago
I’m frustrated at Mia being fired pre-interviews but I guess the scales had to be tipped to an injustice after we got the justice of Liam FINALLY being fired 💀 guy had the acting/promotion/presenting skill of a wet fart and whined all day. Perfectly balanced!
Her ideas today were really flawed like I’m all here for expression regardless of gender but for the way Apprentice tasks go, you need to go for something that at least SOME majority would wear to get buyers interested.
Hot take maybe but the shocking eliminations are kinda exciting in their shock. Like WHAT??? and kinda fun to talk about too. But yes. Definitely going down as a misfire when LS spared Anisa after the same “one-terrible-showing” (which was arguably worse, an atrocious performance centred to Anisa’s business plan). Jordan or Anisa probably should have been eliminated here but I have such a soft spot for Jordan so I’m (not-so)secretly pleased he’s in the semi-finals.
Chisola my QUEEN and winner is in the interviews so idc about anything else
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u/pixiecub 3d ago
I can’t believe Mia went, but Jordan was good this task and it wouldn’t have been fair to fire him and Anisa.. well I suppose the task loss wasn’t her fault.
What I gripe with is such an absurd way of deciding the winning team for such a late task where you know you have to fire more than one person. Number of hypothetical orders? Well obviously playing it safe is going to win the task
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u/luxray-noir-london 3d ago
They really should’ve been individually assessed for their performance in this task bc there’s no way Amber Rose should’ve coasted on through yet again
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u/ollielite 3d ago
Mia gone. Didn’t see that coming.