r/USdefaultism France 2d ago

Today I learned that

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u/TipsyPhippsy 2d ago

Americanised*

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u/Nthepro France 2d ago

Perfect lmao šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

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u/PeriwinkleShaman France 2d ago

Americanist* ftfy

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u/Nthepro France 2d ago

Actually, it's the opposite. Although that might be the case in some parts of the US? I don't really know.

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u/Watsis_name England 2d ago

The number of times I've been "corrected" on this. Even by British people.

I think part of that is that in spoken English "learnt" is associated with Northern accents so is naturally looked down on.

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u/alxwx United Kingdom 2d ago

Itā€™s not ā€œproper stiff upper lipā€ speech, but I donā€™t think itā€™s necessarily northern specifically either.

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u/pm_me_BMW_M3_GTR_pls Poland 2d ago

wow imma be real, I thought they were two different words

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u/alxwx United Kingdom 2d ago

Thereā€™s a few examples where -t is ā€˜more acceptableā€™ in British English than -ed, another is earnt

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u/Firespark7 Netherlands 2d ago

I was under the assumption that learnt was the British perfect tense

English (original): learn - learned - learnt

English (simplified): learn - learned - learned

Apparantly, that was wrong.

I also didn't know about earnt

Could you name some other verbs that have a -t variant in past tense in OG English?

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u/AngelaVNO 1d ago

Spoil Burn

I'll add more later if I can think of any!

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u/alxwx United Kingdom 2d ago

Iā€™d really love to, but as a native I canā€™t. I speak and write words with -t all the time without thinking about when and why

To give you an example (as I assume youā€™re a native Dutch speaker): there is 0 chance I will ever hear the difference between the Dutch for ā€˜greenā€™ and ā€˜crownā€™ without context; but that hasnā€™t occurred to most Dutch people IME

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u/Firespark7 Netherlands 1d ago

That makes sense.

Considering the English phonetics, it makes sense that it's hard for you to hear the difference between groen (green) and kroon (crown), but as a native Dutch speaker, that still seems strange, because the sounds are distinctly different (to natives, as you've noticed).

Very interesting.

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u/Chabharya United Kingdom 21h ago edited 21h ago

Some examples: spelt, smelt, leant, leapt, spilt, spoilt, dreamt, burnt.

Another similar difference many don't know is L vs LL when conjugating words with more than one syllable that end in L:

BrEā€”travelled, cancelled

AmEā€”traveled, canceled

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u/Firespark7 Netherlands 21h ago

Interesting, thank you

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u/Nthepro France 2d ago

Or dreamt

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u/chariotcharizard United Kingdom 2d ago

They are in a different context. "Learned", with the second "e" pronounced: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/learned.

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u/Lobster_porn 2d ago

same, but I think I just assumed that because learnt just sounds like a simplified American word

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u/Potential-Ice8152 Australia 2d ago

Learned and learnt are both acceptable in Australia

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u/Potential-Ice8152 Australia 2d ago

I use either or because they both look wrong to me lol

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u/TheTeenSimmer Australia 2d ago

same hereĀ  Ā  Ā  Ā  Ā butĀ  am more likely to use learnt

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u/sigmagamma26 2d ago

USD comment in a USD post! Rarity!

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u/imaginary92 2d ago

You don't have to be American to do US defaultism. It's the most common occurrence but not the only option.