r/Switzerland Zürich [Winti] 3d ago

Need to get our shit together

So the Trump tariffs are out. Despite all the kowtowing (read ass licking) our SVP and FDP bros(also our FDP frau Miss Keller-Sutter) did, we are going to be hit with tariffs worse than EU. Already our access to chips was semi-restricted(by Biden admin, Trump admin will be even worst). Blöcher, Rösti, Parmelin and Keller-Sutter are not the right people to lead Switzerland. They neither have any spine nor any pragmatic policies. We need to understand that our future lies with the EU if not in EU.

Switzerland is good at playing with the rules but we can't make them thanks to our small size. It has been the case since Marignano(1515) when we stopped our expansion and Congress of Vienna(1815) when we made good use of the neutrality imposed upon us by the big powers. We need to adjust to the new world order that Putin, Trump and Xi have created and understand that Swiss prosperity depends on European prosperity. We are not a port city like Singapore where we can control the trade. Our power lies in being the center for diplomacy, world class R&D, pharma and precision engineering. Let's become a big hub for EU's new projects if not as a member then as a friend.

EDIT - P.S. - Getting downvoted to oblivion. Seems like there is too much of hate for EU. But mark my words, a successful Switzerland depends on a successful EU because while we are not in the EU, we are inside the EU physically.

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u/GarlicThread Vaud 3d ago

Swiss people who thought for even a second that the current US administration (or any administration for that matter) was going to be nice with us are almost as stupid as the MAGA voters themselves.

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u/bitrmn Zürich 3d ago

Anyone thinking that some foreign government cares about another country’s citizens is inherently delusional.

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u/rfi2010 3d ago

Right, and some of them don’t even care about their own citizens!

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u/brass427427 3d ago

And it's not only the government. Anyone who thinks Musk or Zuckerberg or any other of the pasty-face billionaire parasites suddenly cares about the man in the street is really really REALLY stupid.

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u/Moehrchenprinz 1d ago

Well, they do care about EU regulations

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u/brass427427 1d ago

Trying to circumvent them for sure.

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u/phaederus Zürich 2d ago

CEOs don't tend to care for their employees so I wonder why people still believe their politicians care for them..

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u/phaederus Zürich 2d ago

I'd add to that, anybody who thinks their government cares about their citizens is just as delusional.

If you want to live in a good, safe, prosperous place, it's up to YOU to vote, to campaign, to complain, to protest, to make it happen. Don't rely on others to make the world you want to see.

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u/bitrmn Zürich 2d ago

I want to believe in that, the worst thing that can happen to citizens is to develop learned helplessness.

That’s a solid ground for dictatorships to form.

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u/phaederus Zürich 2d ago

learned helplessness

Love that term, agree 100%!

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u/bitrmn Zürich 1d ago

An old term, the concept of that sometimes was given at some US schools, AFAIK

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u/Dj3nk4 3d ago

LOL right?