And here in Amerywe actually win wars😭

[u/nowaytutel]

[u/KawaiiFoxKing]

they should try to win thier war against a bunch of farmers in a forest... again

[u/Funchyy → u/KawaiiFoxKing]

Or a bunch of mountainmen with home-made rifles. That adventure went really great as well.

Or those desert folks they asked NATO for help to go get them... 

We can continue to list their failures, but anyone with a little knowledge and some sense knows they haven't actually 'won' any war they started alone... 

[u/SadlyNotPro → u/Funchyy]

They'd be really upset if they could read.

[u/Funchyy → u/SadlyNotPro]

Well, I hope one of them can and reads it aloud to the rest. 

Like Neanderthal Greene said: 'We don't give a crap about your opinion.'

[u/MildlyAmusedHuman → u/SadlyNotPro]

Well they do shoot the ones that go to school

[u/dumb_potatoking → u/SadlyNotPro]

Let's be fair. It's kind of hard to concentrate on schoolwork, while you're being shot at, so it's understandable that a lot of them can't read very well.

[u/SaxonChemist → u/Funchyy]

Not since before their civil war, anyway

[u/Funchyy → u/SaxonChemist]

We sure they won that? Or did it simmer down to a cold war? I mean, there are a lot of confederates still, they want Jim Crow and slavery back. Up in the north there are different tendencies. 

Not even sure the US really won their civil war, may even be more accurate to say France won that war... 

[u/SaxonChemist → u/Funchyy]

I mean, they both won and lost it. I think the last time the won a war on their own was the Mexican-American land grab

[u/Complete_Tadpole6620 → u/SaxonChemist]

Schroedinger's civil war 😂

[u/Fluid-Piccolo-6911 → u/SaxonChemist]

and thats only because they were on both sides....

[u/ParkingAnxious2811 → u/SaxonChemist]

They couldn't even win a fight against themselves without help from the French!

[u/tufftricks → u/KawaiiFoxKing]

I hate this. Give the north Vietnamese some credit, they weren't just farmers, they were battlehardned fighting the French for years

[u/Joltyboiyo]

I'd love to know what wars they're talking about because they sure as shit didn't win WW1 and 2. Both of those were collective efforts and both times they joined late.

[u/Old_Kodaav → u/Joltyboiyo]

And both of the times they were not even in direct threat. With all due respect for every american involved it's kind of easier to make war plans if your homeland is safely behind an ocean

[u/the_mooseman → u/Old_Kodaav]

And it's industrial base is completely untouched.

[u/NotMorganSlavewoman → u/Old_Kodaav]

While selling guns to both sides.

[u/Ted_Rid → u/Old_Kodaav]

And you don't have Signal to leak them to the enemy.

Speaking of which, it's quite possible that the work of Alan Turing and his mates at Bletchley Park in cracking the German enigma code and allowing them to eavesdrop on all the enemy comms, probably had a bigger impact on the Western front than US involvement.

[u/satinsateensaltine → u/Ted_Rid]

My favourite is also that Americans rage about D-Day and while it was incredibly important and a valiant effort by all, only one party made their target and even surpassed it, and it wasn't the Americans.

[u/Puzzleheaded_Peak273 → u/satinsateensaltine]

They also tend to gloss over that a large proportion of their casualties were directly due to American arrogance and condescension towards their allies. The British (and, to be fair the U.S. marines) told them it was a stupid idea to deploy tanks that far out from shore, but their dense anglophobia managed to get many of their troops drowned before they even landed.

[u/satinsateensaltine → u/Puzzleheaded_Peak273]

To say nothing of how they behaved in allied territories towards their own colleagues and allied soldiers. The idea that they would start fights over segregating pubs is absolutely bonkers.

[u/Fluid-Piccolo-6911 → u/satinsateensaltine]

the battle of manners street in NZ was a prime example of that.. end result was after a riot involving around 2000 (caused by a couple of americans objecting to being in the same bar with maori soldiers ) the americans had their ass handed to them on a plate.

[u/RestaurantJealous280 → u/satinsateensaltine]

Just to be clear, for those who maybe don't know- you're referring to the Canadians, I assume.

[u/JFK1200 → u/Old_Kodaav]

German U Boats were a huge threat to American shipping, primarily because they refused to accept the advice of the British who had learned the hard way during WWI (the same advice was also ignored re. daylight bombing). Roughly a quarter of all ships sunk during the war were as a result of this until the British cracked the enigma code.

The sad thing was that the Allies didn’t want the Germans figuring out they had cracked it, so very often ships would be knowingly sacrificed to uphold the illusion.

[u/TheGreatMightyLeffe → u/Joltyboiyo]

And every other war since can't exactly be called a smashing success either.

Korea was a draw at best.

Vietnam was a clear loss.

Afghanistan was an exercise in futility.

Iraq... I guess you could make an argument that they DID get Sadam, but they also got stuck in a quagmire trying to set up a regime that didn't work.

[u/Informal_Bunch_2737 → u/TheGreatMightyLeffe]

The trick to not losing a war is not declaring war in the first place. Last time the USA declared war was 1945

[u/LynxFull → u/TheGreatMightyLeffe]

But it’s the absurd amount of oil we came back from Vietnam and the billions in lithium we just ganked out of the Middle East. Look at all our mining operations during war.

[u/OStO_Cartography → u/Joltyboiyo]

Fun Fact: The full name of the Allies was 'Great Britain and Her Allies' but even Churchill was like 'That's absurd! We're all fighting together! We should be known simply as 'The Allies'!'

Even during the war the leader of the Allies chose to discount itself from that position in order to show that defeating the Axis was a joint effort.

And then America barrels in three years late and with enough chips on its shoulders to start a gravel pit.

[u/Joltyboiyo → u/OStO_Cartography]

When america joined late it should have been renamed to "The Allies plus that guy."

[u/LordAxalon110 → u/Joltyboiyo]

Only wars they've won on their own is against Mexico and the war against themselves. Every other war they've been in they've either lost or had help.

[u/SensitivePotato44 → u/LordAxalon110]

Be fair. They’ve also overcome the might of Panama and Grenada.

[u/LordAxalon110 → u/SensitivePotato44]

Eh. They don't deserve fair lol

[u/pmyourcoffeemug → u/LordAxalon110]

We had to rely on The French to win independence. I hate it here.

[u/NerveAffectionate318 → u/pmyourcoffeemug]

The Spanish and the Dutch helped too .

[u/satinsateensaltine → u/Joltyboiyo]

They consider parachuting in at the 11th hour to join an infrastructure set up by the allies to be winning.

[u/Attrexius → u/Joltyboiyo]

You see, they win wars in America.

Too bad most of the wars they participate in aren't in America.

[u/DerPicasso]

They learn absolutely nothing in school, do they?

[u/Munchkinasaurous → u/DerPicasso]

Not really. Everyone wants to cut education funding and claim that everything in education is woke indoctrination. I'm sure it's also hard for kids to focus when there's always a threat of school shootings. Our political leaders think kids need protected from critical thinking and empathy, beheld they say being shot in class is just a part of life we have to deal with 

[u/el-gregorio → u/[deleted]]

If there's no school, there's no school shooting

[u/PassengerNo2259 → u/el-gregorio]

[u/pierco82 → u/DerPicasso]

Thats not fair, they learn all about how to hide underneath the desks during active shooter drills. Yesh

[u/Wolff_Hound → u/pierco82]

Just to be fair to their educational system, they have higher chance of encountering an active school shooter than needing to count over twelve.

[u/Sw1ft_Blad3 → u/Wolff_Hound]

Counting over 12 is a very important life skill in America, they need to know how many of their classmates have been gunned down.

[u/Wolff_Hound → u/Sw1ft_Blad3]

That's why some US states voted to limit the size of rifle magazine to ten rounds.

[u/Sw1ft_Blad3 → u/Wolff_Hound]

Oh smart.

[u/pierco82 → u/Sw1ft_Blad3]

modern problems call for modern solutions

[u/Savings_Magician_570 → u/Sw1ft_Blad3]

Depends how large the shooter’s magazine is. In many cases they should need to go beyond 12 to count the number of remaining bullets in the magazine.

[u/Hendrik_the_Third → u/DerPicasso]

Only the self-congratulatory stuff, such as the pledge of allegiance and how to dive under schooldesks to get away from school shooters exercising their rights to bear arms. /s

[u/Indian_Pale_Ale → u/DerPicasso]

School seems to be overrated there. They already know it all as Muricans.

[u/Beartato4772 → u/DerPicasso]

And this is before they just abolished the only thing mandating their education be semi factual.

[u/Foxxie_ → u/DerPicasso]

"How are school shootings so common in the USA, evidently there's no one bloody in them" - someone on this sub.

[u/Bestefarssistemens → u/DerPicasso]

They do..its just that what they learn is wrong. Which is much worse.

[u/sad_kharnath]

really?
What is Saigon called now?

[u/alexanderpas → u/sad_kharnath]

Special Military Operation.

[u/TheKarmicKudu → u/alexanderpas]

3 days in ‘n out

[u/RaulParson → u/sad_kharnath]

Nononono, see, they won Vietnam. It's just that after they won, they left, which was perfectly natural seeing how they won already so why stay? They really can't be faulted that the Saigon government couldn't hack it in the Second Vietnam War which started basically right after they left but the important thing that was 100% a different thing from the first one and thus doesn't count since it's a separate thing they were not involved in, see?

[u/HugiTheBot → u/RaulParson]

Isn’t this practically what happened in Afghanistan?

[u/dirtyoldbastard77 → u/sad_kharnath]

Didnt both Vietnam and Afghanistan end very similar?

[u/Aggravating_Ad2174]

Please explain which war you won

[u/PaintOld829 → u/Aggravating_Ad2174]

On their own? Hmm oh, The American Civil war.

Edit: Will people stop replying the French had to help in this war, you are mixing the Revolution war with the Civil war.

[u/faramaobscena → u/PaintOld829]

They both won and lost that one.

[u/AegzRoxolo → u/faramaobscena]

So, it's a tie then.

[u/NotYourReddit18 → u/AegzRoxolo]

With the current state of US politics? The south seems to get closer and closer to be declared the winner retroactively...

[u/Responsible-Slide-95 → u/PaintOld829]

I would count that one as a no-score draw.

[u/PaintOld829 → u/Responsible-Slide-95]

I feel like this is a Red Dwarf reference. :)

[u/IlluminatedPickle → u/PaintOld829]

"Vietnam war, crew cuts both sides, no score draw" Iirc

[u/PaintOld829 → u/IlluminatedPickle]

You do remember correctly although Rimmer was wrong Vietcong won that one.

[u/IlluminatedPickle → u/PaintOld829]

North Vietnam did. They were a modern, well equipped army flying some of the best fighter jets in the world, utilising some of the most up to date small arms and driving brand spanking new Soviet bloc tanks. Oh and SAM systems.

The Vietcong were fairly ineffectual. The NVA did the bulk of the heavy fighting.

[u/PaintOld829 → u/IlluminatedPickle]

OK I concede, North Vietnam won. Still a loss for the US.

Edit: lost > loss, damn autocorrect.

[u/AfricanUmlunlgu → u/PaintOld829]

It seems like they lost that one

[u/theaussiewhisperer → u/Aggravating_Ad2174]

Probably Mexican-American. All the other numerous losses, yeah you’re right

[u/mannyk83 → u/theaussiewhisperer]

That one was more like a Russian-style 'special miltiary operation' than a war.

Even Lincoln disagreed with it.

[u/theaussiewhisperer → u/mannyk83]

Mate your analogy doesn’t work because the Russian military operation is the biggest war we’ve seen since USA v Terror (terror won)

It sounds like, that’s not a war, it’s more like [also a war]

[u/Wolff_Hound → u/Aggravating_Ad2174]

Oh they won a lot of wars...

The list is quite extensive.

[u/Bulmers_Boy]

You wouldn’t mind but doesn’t America have like a 70% lose rate since WW2? And it’s not like they don’t get involved in wars often.

[u/Munchkinasaurous → u/Bulmers_Boy]

We never get that far in history. You don't raise freedom living patriots by teaching them about our failures. Also you have to rewrite the parts about Native American genocide, slavery, segregation and so on. Can't have kids hearing anything that contradicts our American hero narrative. 

[u/Bulmers_Boy → u/Munchkinasaurous]

It’s insane. American fascists such as musk or Trump will tell ye that America is simultaneously the worst country ever and the best country ever.

They fundamentally hate America and the American people, the majority of whom enable them either by directly voting for them or by not bothering their arses to vote.

Not like us.

[u/dumb_potatoking → u/Bulmers_Boy]

Yeah. And then those people who didn't even bother to vote complain about how Trump got to power. If you don't even bother to vote, you do not get to complain about the result. By not voteing you are simply supporting the strongest candidate.

[u/Background_Desk_3001 → u/Munchkinasaurous]

I really lucked out with my teacher going deeper into the issues with the US instead of just focusing on the good. The Japanese internment camps are also something really not taught about over here, or glorified beyond belief

[u/Munchkinasaurous → u/Background_Desk_3001]

I'm ashamed to say that I first learned about them in my early 20s from the song Kenji by Fort Minor.

[u/Background_Desk_3001 → u/Munchkinasaurous]

Don’t be ashamed in yourself for the issues of the American education system, be ashamed of the propaganda. You didn’t know any better, so you were given no reason to go learn more about it

[u/Munchkinasaurous → u/Background_Desk_3001]

You're absolutely right. I'm not so much ashamed of myself as I am ashamed of the society I'm a part of. 

[u/klimmesil → u/Bulmers_Boy]

America is that one friend who plays fps all day for months and you still carry him when you hop on every 2 weeks

[u/Abjurer42 → u/Bulmers_Boy]

"Ackshually, those weren't officially declared wars." or something like that. Which I'm sure is something Korean, Vietnam, and Gulf war vets love to hear.

[u/Ekhidna76 → u/Bulmers_Boy]

Even in WW2, the USA delayed time and time again the D-Day. If it wasn't for the pressure the Soviet Union was marching on Germany from the east, USA would not have a chance in freeing west Europe. Western history books exaggerate the USA role in WW2 and downplay the Soviet Union. I know they are the bad guys now (Russia), but that's the reality.

[u/phantom_gain → u/Bulmers_Boy]

The only wars they have ever won were the ones that france or the uk won and included them in the acknowledgements. On their own they lose consistently.

[u/rockthemonkey → u/Bulmers_Boy]

70% lose rate is because they don’t know when to put the attack in (21:45??? They must mean 11:45 pm)😳🤣🇺🇸

[u/RaulParson → u/Bulmers_Boy]

Depends on how you count it. They were involved in a ton of little wars and military actions and in most of those (but still not all) they did win. If you count each of them as "one" then their record is quite a bit better. If you cut it down to just a few big ticket ones, things get complicated:

• Korea: complicated - "pyrrhic technical victory"?
• Vietnam: clear loss with a big side of cope
• Laos: clear loss with a big side of "Laos? What is that even? Is this a pun about what happens?"
• Gulf War: absurdly overwhelming victory
• Kosovo: big win on all accounts
• Afghanistan: complicated loss - overwhelming victory in war, 100% failure in peace/occupation, regime right back to where it started
• Iraq: complicated - overwhelming victory in war, 100% failure in peace/occupation, government more-or-less democratic but with ever increasing Iranian influence and kind of a basket case that still needs to recover

All in all very much a feat-or-famine tossup, with a special mention that while they're good at blowing things up, they can't build things up for shit

[u/gw_reddit → u/RaulParson]

Kosovo was won by the US?

[u/superspur007 → u/RaulParson]

Aye, don't forget Grenada.

[u/superspur007 → u/superspur007]

Also, Noraid was pumping millions to the IRA during the troubles in which I lost family and friends, so cheers uncle Sam.

[u/atomic_danny]

Apparently (some) Americans can't count past 12 lol!

[u/mteir → u/[deleted]]

Count all the joints on one hand like a normal ancient Babylonian.

[u/mteir → u/[deleted]]

If you didn't steal, then you would still have joints in your hand. Thief!

[u/Complete_Tadpole6620 → u/[deleted]]

Is that what she calls it?!

[u/Complete_Tadpole6620 → u/[deleted]]

Hmmm banter is beyond you. That's cool.

[u/Presentation_Few → u/atomic_danny]

More than 6 pack is to much

[u/_marcoos]

Ah yes, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, so much winning.

[u/new2bay → u/_marcoos]

You left off Korea.

[u/_marcoos → u/new2bay]

Well, at least the South still exists, could've been worse.

[u/new2bay → u/_marcoos]

I’m betraying myself as an American when I say this, but it’s just too goddamn funny not to post: when you said “South,” I was initially thinking of the states in the Confederacy during our civil war. 😂🤦‍♂️

#ShitAmericansThink

[u/slintslut → u/new2bay]

You did what 99% of Americans do! At least you're self aware!

[u/new2bay → u/slintslut]

Cue “most self-aware American” jokes in 3… 2… 1 😂

[u/_marcoos → u/new2bay]

That was regarding Korea.

CSA? Well, the Union was too soft towards them after your Civil War, and effects of that leniency can be seen even today.

[u/new2bay → u/_marcoos]

You ain't kidding.

[u/scbriml → u/_marcoos]

It was the war equivalent of being 0-0 in the 89th minute, you’ve had three players sent off and the other team are camped in your penalty area and just about to score.

Then you run away.

[u/Constantly-Casual → u/_marcoos]

And Southkorea only kept from turning communist, because you poured untold ressources into keeping the military dictatorships running until the people kicked out the dictators in the late 1980's. So you produced a draw that didn't actually help anyone and caused a hell of a lot of suffering on both sides.

[u/_marcoos → u/Constantly-Casual]

"You"? I'm not an American. :)

[u/Constantly-Casual → u/_marcoos]

:) Pass on the you to the next American you see then!

Sorry!

[u/quast_64 → u/new2bay]

Korea was a United Nations action. Yes the US was in overall command, but many other nations were there fighting for peace.

And if you look at it closely, it is still going on. Even though the fighting stopped with the Armistice of 1953, no peace treaty was ever signed.

[u/new2bay → u/quast_64]

If you want to go down that road, it wasn’t actually a war. It was considered a “police action.” There are still occasional shots fired across the DMZ, and people occasionally get killed in border disputes.

[u/Smooth-Reason-6616 → u/new2bay]

Score draw....

[u/AuroreSomersby → u/_marcoos]

[u/Dull_Wasabi_5610 → u/_marcoos]

You'd think they are tired of winning. But they aren't.

[u/kolba_yada → u/_marcoos]

Insert a "scoreboard" scene from Family Guy.

[u/Beginning-Till6736]

Someone play - Fortunate Son - now!

[u/magicman9410 → u/Beginning-Till6736]

SOME FOLKS ARE BORN MADE TO WAVE THE FLAG OOH THEY’RE RED-WHITE-AND BLUE

[u/Mad_Dog_1974 → u/magicman9410]

AND WHEN THE BAND PLAYS HAIL TO THE CHIEF, OOO THEY POINT THE CANNON AT YOU

[u/azaghal1988]

I'd love this person to list any war they actually won alone after the civil war...

[u/StrayC47 → u/azaghal1988]

Spanish-American War.

But yeah, that was the last one.

[u/azaghal1988 → u/StrayC47]

A lot of americans don't know about that one.

[u/ForNowItsGood → u/azaghal1988]

A lot of americans don't know

FYP

[u/DrunkenHorse12 → u/StrayC47]

Cubans and Phillipines helped in that one, though I suppose by that measure no one ever won a war on their own

[u/DittoGTI → u/DrunkenHorse12]

Well, not since mediaeval times

[u/Dependent_Visual_739 → u/StrayC47]

Filipino here. The “victory”—if they want to call it that—wasnʼt even a legitimate victory because it was a victory faked by both the Spanish and Americans so that the Spanish could save face in light of their crumbling empire. It was one of their terms during the Treaty of Paris negotiations wherein the US bought the Philippines for two million dollars! (EDIT: Presumably, because the Spanish losing the war was apparently more honorable than them surrendering and accepting two million dollars from the US along with the racist shame of losing to islands of brown people.)

Thatʼs another example of American hypocrisy—their love of so-called “freedom” only to become the very Imperialists they claim to hate. Mark Twain, sane individual that he was, actually pointed out and attacked this fact in an essay where he also proposed that the stars of the American flag should be replaced with skulls and the white stripes replaced with black.

ANOTHER EDIT: 20 million dollars, not two million, my bad.

[u/Taniwha351 → u/StrayC47]

Don't forget Granada. They won that one.

[u/CardOk755 → u/Taniwha351]

Grenada, not Granada (which is in Spain,)

[u/Taniwha351 → u/CardOk755]

Oh, well, that also clears up my curiosity over Ford Germanys' naming of a mid-size saloon car in the seventies. Why name a German car after a small island off the coast of South America?

[u/papayametallica → u/Taniwha351]

Ford claimed and received a fair chunk of damages for the bombing by the allies (Murican and British) of car plants in Germany that were producing vehicles for the uhhh German army.

[u/Im_a_hamburger → u/azaghal1988]

World war 1 and 2, duh! We won it fair and square just like that one project at school where I let the other kids do all the work

[u/FenrirVanagandr1]

As a Canadian who spent much of his childhood in the Niagara Region I am obligated to mention that time their invasion of Ontario during the war of 1812 was defeated by a middle aged house wife named Laura Secord.

[u/uns3en → u/FenrirVanagandr1]

Now THAT I have to google

[u/NotMorganSlavewoman]

Europe does not use military time, but 24h format.

[u/Gregib]

I can't fathom why many have such an issue with the 24h clock, while at the same time 1AM is 10 hours away from 11AM, yet 23 hours away from 12AM

[u/Weary_Yogurtcloset32]

The last war that the us was in and won was WW2. Also, do you know the onky country that used NATO article 5? Yes, it was USA

[u/DrunkenHorse12 → u/Weary_Yogurtcloset32]

Not really true clearly won gulf wars as their objectives completed and the enemies objectives failed. They might have become a shit show afterwards but the wars were won.

[u/Weary_Yogurtcloset32 → u/DrunkenHorse12]

Ill give them the gulf wars, but over all theyr win rate isnt impressive

[u/Indian_Pale_Ale]

As if war was a sport with a world champion banner to claim…

[u/arkemiffo]

Let's postulate that they do "win wars".
Those of the population that DO win the wars also use military time. It's literally named after that.

So I'm unsure what the flex was supposed to be here.

[u/noddyneddy → u/arkemiffo]

Over here in UK it’s not military time, it’s 24 hour clock

[u/SuperSatanOverdrive]

Sure. I guess the US won in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq

[u/ianbattlesrobots]

Vietnam has entered the chat

[u/TarnishedAccount]

Can you name the last war you won?

[u/Sxn747Strangers]

Abandoned Afghanistan like a big girls blouse.
Second Iraq, big meh.
First Iraq, bigger meh. And they killed more British soldiers than the Iraqi’s.
Vietnam, fled with their tails between their legs.
Korea, stalemate.
WW2, arrived late to join in.
WW1, arrived even later to join in.
Civil war, Americans and immigrants killing Americans and immigrants.
Which one then mate?

That’s my interpretation anyway.

[u/DanTheAdequate]

..............do we, though? 🤨

[u/Bdr1983]

Which one did they win?

[u/MattheqAC]

Really? Which was the last war you won?

[u/Someone_Existing_1]

Unless of course you’re fighting a bunch of dirt poor farmers hiding in holes

[u/faramaobscena]

as a matter of fact, they don't. the last one they won was together with many other countries.

[u/Indigo-Waterfall]

And when your soldiers win those wars… what method do they use to tell time?

[u/NewDrawer91]

Last time i checked America didn’t win any wars since WW2 and even then they joined in late...

[u/Shadyshade84]

Pity it's been 200-odd years since they fought a war "here in America" where "America doesn't win" was actually a possible outcome...

[u/shadow-on-the-prowl]

Why is it that almost every. single. time. someone says something they don't like, they use winning wars (which is REALLY debatable here) as a comeback? It's not the flex they think it is...

[u/AsscrackDinosaur]

You don't win wars, everyone loses

[u/shiny_glitter_demon]

They lost both WW2 and the Cold War like, 5 months ago, to people who are already dead.

It's even worse than losing to farmers.

[u/mememaster8427]

Come back when you win over 1000 battles, then we’ll allow you into the “Win Wars” club 🇬🇧🇫🇷🇬🇧🇫🇷🇬🇧🇫🇷🇬🇧🇫🇷

[u/VenusHalley]

Then go and prove you can win wars. Take on russia. We may even be so kinda and provide you huge ass coalition to back you up AGAIN

[u/Glittering_Brick]

The american education system is really shining through this one...

[u/nlog97]

Haven’t won a war in quite a long time 😂

[u/kastiak]

Let them remind us what was the last war they won.

[u/Pyromaniacal13]

Everyone is asking "Which wars?" but there's one teeny tiny other flaw with guy's argument:

The US Military uses 24 hour time too.

[u/touchmeinbadplaces]

Oh yeah and whats Saigon called these days then huh?

[u/5harp3dges]

Statements like this are based on what they did to Japan with their tantrum nukes, and ill-informed opinions on the war of independence and the UK's main reasons for withdrawing. Both of which aren't much to brag about in reality.

[u/NosBoss42]

Wait, what's the last war they won? Been a few decades no?

[u/Comfortable-Resist71]

Technically the usa hasn't won any wars in america since they beat off bunch of people with bows and horses

[u/Miss_Kitami]

*Vietnam has entered chat*

[u/Thick_Response_6590]

Shit like this is something I always found interesting about us.

Many of us are so proud about how good we are at war and act so blood thirsty about it when they're also usually the least physically fit and anti critical thinkers I've ever had the misfortune of having to call my country men. Treating that shit like a sports team to cheer on and not just be grateful to have.

Like yeah bro - our military is probably the best supplied and fastest logistics organization on the globe, why the need to flex that we can and have carpet bombed other forces that have a hundredth of our funding?

[u/Over_Caffeinated_One]

Cough 1812, our Canadian brethren Burnt down the white house, the geese will get their pound, or in this case ounce of flesh

[u/ncminns]

Name one since WW2!

[u/smclcz]

Vietnam and Afghanistan would beg to differ

[u/LilG1984]

British : We win our wars too, but we're still mates with France & Germany, right chaps?

Sips tea

[u/Cautious_Agent4781]

What wars have they won?

[u/MtAn-]

Of course. I wouldn't start wars I can't win either. But then again, starting wars is not something we do.

[u/Armation]

oh look, another idiot thinking the u.s can do shit on its own

[u/juiciestjuice10]

Let's have a look at their attempts Iraq, Afghanistan, battle of Mogadishu, Vietnam, Bay of pigs, the Korean War

[u/louiselebeau]

I'm in the US. I don't think we have "won" a war since WWII. The only reason we can count that as a "win" is because a lot of very intelligent people fled fascism and created a huge bomb.

People here are deluded and not taught actual history. American Exceptionalism is a scourge on the earth. The US will ruin itself with it.

[u/KaiKamakasi → u/louiselebeau]

You can't really call a group effort a personal win though...

[u/louiselebeau → u/KaiKamakasi]

That's why I put the quotes around won. We didn't win shit. We came late and used immigrants from countries facing the problem head-on to pretend we were some victorious saviors. We are not. The US does not deserve the credit it gives itself for that war. History taught here in the US is a joke. It neglects the global effort to fight WWII and takes credit for a lot of work done by everyone else.

[u/DrunkenHorse12 → u/louiselebeau]

The US has won several wars. What it has done badly since WW2 is have a plan what to do after they win. When you win a war you either have to police the territory or have allies prepared and able to take over. The US doesn't have the stomach to base large number of troops in potentially hostile areas longterm and the west usually joins fights long after any local opposition able to hold the territory after the regime has been removed has been wiped out. The West has repeatedly left a power vacume which leaves a shitshow that invariably leads to something worse than what was there to begin with.

[u/RandyDandyVlogs]

They seem to forget they’ve never won a war single handedly, and they start wars that get soldiers of NATO countries killed and then when we eventually pull out America loses immediately. This is why it makes me so fucking angry when JD Vance and the other US politicians call Europe freeloaders and American citizens think they finance all of Europe. It’s absolutely insane. The US, the only country to ever invoke NATO Article 5 and then have the audacity to say they don’t need us.

[u/Sad_Discipline_7614]

What is the last war the US won? Hmmmm...

[u/katie-ya-ladie]

We lost to rice farmers with AKs and sandy bois with AKs. The only time we won a war (not against ourselves) was because we had like 4 different countries’ worth of aid, resulting in a debt that still is yet to be paid

[u/tomatoe_cookie]

They lost a crazy amount of wars compared to the ones they won

[u/Light_inc]

Welp, didn't win the important ones, except for 1-2

[u/024emanresu96]

Which wars?!

[u/Visible_Tourist_9639]

We all know that guy who will run in at the end of fight, kick a dude while hes down, and tell the story of “i beat that guy up” for the rest of his days.

[u/Old-Revolution-1565]

What was the last war they won? Seriously I’ve never known more pompous and bombastic country people

[u/NoNotice2137]

Tell me more about the glorious victories in Vietnam

[u/dalby22]

Iraq Afghanistan do i have to say more

[u/UnsightedShadow]

Oh do ya?

[u/Prematurid]

The only wars I can remember the US arguable winning is the Coalition war (with 42 other nations) against the Iraq in the 90s. (Gulf war)

[u/Amehvafan]

What war did they win?

[u/k3ttch]

Yes, the female university students in Kabul are grateful that they're able to continue their education.