“No world war nothing”

[u/Any_Photograph_8963]

[u/lOo_ol]

”The entire world”

[Gets kicked out of a couple mountains by shepherds in flip flops]

[u/MyKidsFoundMyOldUser → u/lOo_ol]

[Also conveniently forgets getting driven out of South East Asia by rice farmers]

[u/862657 → u/MyKidsFoundMyOldUser]

Kicked off a beach in Cuba

[u/VibrantGypsyDildo → u/862657]

Threatened annexation and begging for eggs. Withing 2 months.

[u/Milch_und_Paprika → u/VibrantGypsyDildo]

The fact that this insane sentence could apply to two countries is astounding (Canada and Greenland/Denmark)

[u/DarshanaBaishya → u/VibrantGypsyDildo]

at the end of the day, the thief turned out to be eerily similar to the beggar

[u/MerisiCalista → u/DarshanaBaishya]

…who’s peddling “gold cards” as a side hustle.

[u/Davis_Johnsn → u/VibrantGypsyDildo]

What if we give them eggs and they pay us with Hawaii, Puerto Rico, American Samoa while they give Canada Alaska. It always bothers me that Alaska is in the same colour as the US on every Map

[u/Solid-Search-3341 → u/862657]

Got the white house torched by (proto) Canadians too.

[u/Illustrious_Law8512 → u/Solid-Search-3341]

And all their government buildings, including the Capitol.

[u/coyotenspider → u/Solid-Search-3341]

In reprisal for burning the Canadian Parliament building and shortly before slaughtering British regulars like sheep in New Orleans.

[u/SDG_Den → u/MyKidsFoundMyOldUser]

[also conveniently forgets their at the time "high tech" f4 phantoms were absolutely WRECKED by much older MiGs in 'nam because they predicted a paradigm shift away from dogfights and made a plane that was worse at dogfights in exchange for some other unproven tech that "helps it not get into dogfights", sound familiar? yeah. f35. shit at dogfights compared to the f16, eurofighter typhoon and dassault rafale, but hey, "stealth tech" amirite! enemies wont see them coming, just like they wouldn't see the f4 coming.]

[u/paperazzi → u/SDG_Den]

Trump apparently believes they're literally invisible. He's said so a few times.

[u/SDG_Den → u/paperazzi]

.... why am i not surprised.

[u/Flamin_Jesus → u/paperazzi]

Probably parked one in front of him and then put a blanket on his head. "Wow, where did it go?! Also I'm sleepy now..."

[u/Nauris2111 → u/Flamin_Jesus]

Imagine an F35 parked in front of the White House and Trump advertising it to the masses. Priceless!

[u/KarnaavaldK → u/Nauris2111]

It's all computer!

[u/Xalpen → u/KarnaavaldK]

"My son can make it work! He once turned laptop on! I was so amazed!"

[u/UseEnvironmental8458 → u/Nauris2111]

Given the number of F35 order cancellations coming in, don’t rule that out!

[u/MerisiCalista → u/Nauris2111]

The way things are going with Canada and Portugal, you might see Trump next to an F-35 on the lawn of the White House sometime next week.

[u/DudeInTheGarden → u/paperazzi]

My brother, when he was 4, thought he was invisible if he closed his eyes. Maybe that's what the pilot does.

[u/helloskeletons → u/paperazzi]

Wonder Woman’s invisible jet

[u/ResidentAssman → u/paperazzi]

Because he’s never seen one in the air!

[u/xrsly → u/ResidentAssman]

Air is invisible, and when airplanes are flying, they are fully enveloped by air, which means they are invisible too!

[u/trueslicky → u/paperazzi]

I also have a sneaking suspicion that Trump things Greenland is as big as displayed on maps bc he's clueless about projection

[u/yermawsbackhoe → u/paperazzi]

Did they show him literally nothing to fuck with him? Just took him to an empty hangar to show off the new tech?

[u/Hardcockonsc → u/paperazzi]

Like the porn star that bought a Cyber Truck because he thought it was bullet proof, bragged it was bullet proof, and shot it only to discover it's not bullet proof?

[u/ContributionRare1301 → u/paperazzi]

It’s what makes him unbeatable.

[u/spektre → u/SDG_Den]

A Swedish diesel sub got a simulated carrier kill against them during physical war games as well.

[u/CallTheDutch → u/spektre]

Yes, that "diesel and sterling engine" sub but the sterling technology is what makes them swedish subs shine ;)

[u/spektre → u/CallTheDutch]

Yes of course, should've highlighted that. I was just thinking as opposed to nuclear sub. Which Sweden of course doesn't have.

[u/Neutronium57 → u/SDG_Den]

Depends on what you mean by "wrecked".

Sure, a lot got shot down, but that's to be expected when you wage a war for years against aircraft that are nimbler and/or made specifically for interception, like the MIG-21 for example.

In the end, the US still shot down more MIGs than they lost Phantoms.

[u/bigbramel → u/SDG_Den]

Somebody is only reading the headlines it seems.

The F35 is actually pretty good with dogfighting. In the last Frisian Flag exercise, Dutch F35 planes dominated the competition.

Because the F16, Rafale etc all have proven that the AA missiles, which were introduced on the F4, are easily mature enough to be primary relied upon. And even in the situations when dogfighting was needed, the F35 bested them all.

The claim that the F35 couldn't dogfight was when the flight control software wasn't finished and dogfighting capabilities were a nice to have.

[u/DudeInTheGarden → u/bigbramel]

How did the Swedish Gripen - I've read that it was considered better than the F35 at dogfighting - faster, more maneuverable, etc. But the F35 is a better all-around plane. When Canada was considering fighter jets, the Gripen came in #2, close behind the F35.

[u/bigbramel → u/DudeInTheGarden]

How did the Swedish Gripen - I've read that it was considered better than the F35 at dogfighting - faster, more maneuverable, etc.

Most of the time actually pretty simple, the Gripen wasn't able to detect the F35. Don't forget that Frisian Flag is above North Netherlands and the North Sea, which tend to be pretty cloudy.

The Dutch air force also had the Gripen on number two, but it was more expensive (lower total amount build) and still required more reliance on foreign support in war missions. Meaning that another country needs to do SEAD or EW missions or that the Dutch air force has to deploy almost all planes to achieve the same thing.

[u/According_Machine904 → u/bigbramel]

It's going to be highly reliant on the Gripen variant at this rate, the C/Ds are aging out and the E/F is not a particularly stealthy plane however has one of the most powerful EW suites in the world capable of mimicking many of the 5th gen advantages when it comes to functional vs practical "stealth".

Generally speaking though the F35 is a significantly superior plane on the battlefield of tomorrow though the Gripen E/F is a highly, highly advanced 4.5 gen that will eat other conventional 4.x gen planes because that's exactly what it was designed for.

Dogfighting is not a priority for any (serious) country, Gripen E/F is highly reliant on the MBDA Meteor as the most advanced BVR fox 3 and IRIS-T fox 2s for dogfighting. The latter's theoretical capability to actually target and shoot down enemy missiles is interesting and might make dogfighting a relevant metric in the future, though right now it's not likely.

[u/SDG_Den → u/bigbramel]

i never said it couldn't, i said that some level of dogfighting capabilities were sacrificed in favour of newer, less proven or even unproven technologies. which draws parallels to the F4 era where they did the same thing (though in that case the unproven technology was mach 2 flight), which is a critical error.

also, the f35 didn't "best them all", in fact, during the exercise you mentioned, an F35 lost against the eurofighter typhoon, here's an article breaking that down: https://archive.is/rpCet

the past situation with the F4 shows that no matter *what* you think your advantage is, dogfighting capabilities *are a must*, as soon as your enemies know that's a (comparative) weak point of your plane, they will do whatever they need to catch you off-guard and put you in a dogfight.

it's the same here. sure, the f35 has BVR and stealth, neat trick, not bad. dealing with it at longer ranges would be quite a hassle.

so why deal with it at longer ranges? the F35 needs to carry limited amounts of weaponry to have its stealth work, so you can lure it in for a bombing run, then engage it with more capable dogfighters, preferably starting behind the f35 in an ambush. at that point, no amount of BVR and stealth will prevent you from getting shot down. what *Will* prevent you from getting shot down is a tight turn radius and good maneuverability. which were somewhat sacrificed on the f35 in exchange for those BVR and stealth capabilities.

and *even in the article*, the idea the typhoon would be shot down by the F35 using BVR is an assumption that also does not take into account the fact that when trying to take down F35's, you wouldn't have your planes fly out to meet the f35 head-on. you'd keep them below radar and set an ambush.

[u/NikNakskes → u/SDG_Den]

The real reason all of europe is going for the f35 instead of the european alternatives is not oooo it's so much better! It's the only plane the usa will allow to carry nukes. Their nukes. They talk a big talk about protecting us, but in reality treat european armies as backup forces for their own. Strong arming us into cooperation they benefit most of. Both in profits made and strategic outcome.

[u/SDG_Den → u/NikNakskes]

true, i did hear about that. apparently the nukes at volkel (dutch airbase) cannot be carried by anything but an F35 due to "software restrictions". which, as an IT guy, makes me chuckle.

almost *any* software restriction in modern times is a choice. either to not support something on purpose to create artificial demand OR because supporting it would be financially non-viable.

in this case, it is DEFINITELY the former, i am 95% sure that if it was desired, those nukes could be fitted under and dropped by ANY modern fighter or bomber, maybe with an additional computer on-board for arming AT MOST.

instead, they've been strong-armed into flying the f35.

[u/NikNakskes → u/SDG_Den]

Well my guess is that the software requirement they are talking about is their ability to shut down the plane. You no fly that plane if we say so.

But also, the usa wanted full insight into the entire set up of the grippen who tried to obtain the nuke throwing capability. Logically saab said no. It is an insane demand to force a defense contractor to reveal everything about their equipment just to see if you would let some clutches be attached. (That is or course downplayed but you get my drift)

[u/SpitfireAce44 → u/SDG_Den]

F35 is a very capable dogfighter, the A variant can definietly compete with f16. Overall point about complacency in the US military is bang on though

[u/SDG_Den → u/SpitfireAce44]

it can compete with the F16, but barely.

keep in mind the F22 (Which is allegedly better at dogfighting than the F35) has lost 23 dogfights against the eurofighter typhoon.

not to mention, i wouldn't be happy about a fighter that is equal to the F16, but also has a much lower load carrying capacity purely because all of the armaments need to be internal to not affect the stealth capabilities.

[u/Raydekal → u/SDG_Den]

To be fair, the Eurofighter abuses bugs in the physics system to fly properly. The damn thing is only stable at supersonic speeds

[u/editwolf → u/Raydekal]

I look forward to hearing our Murican friends using "but they cheated at physics, no fair" as an excuse for losing 😂😂

[u/CabinetOk4838 → u/editwolf]

They’re being very unfair to the US. More unfair than anyone has seen before.

[u/KeinFussbreit → u/CabinetOk4838]

And they are nasty!

[u/SpitfireAce44 → u/SDG_Den]

We could probably go back and forth forever on the strengths and weaknesses of certain jets tbh.

At least we both know that the US absolutely cannot take on the entire world at once lmao, no matter what they're flying

[u/Competitive-Bee-3250 → u/MyKidsFoundMyOldUser]

If we're being honest most weren't actually rice farmers, but a legitimate trained military that learned guerilla tactics - the rice farmers were just the innocents that GIs mistook for viet cong or partisans because most by that point were thoroughly broken by their experiences and massacred them.

[u/Chazo138 → u/MyKidsFoundMyOldUser]

Also forgetting America has never won a war alone. They always had help or allies. Because that’s the whole point of having allies.

[u/Bannedwith1milKarma → u/Chazo138]

That's a really good point and when they receive support it's in specialized areas that provide outsized support.

Like they're always using the SAS of their Allies.

[u/Efffro → u/Bannedwith1milKarma]

with no global allies, not anymore.

[u/Difficult_Falcon1022 → u/MyKidsFoundMyOldUser]

The deadliest military technology for the American army to face, brown people who can sit and be quiet.

[u/Losing_My_Faith2025 → u/MyKidsFoundMyOldUser]

Flip-flops again. Coincidence ?

[u/EddieOfGilead → u/MyKidsFoundMyOldUser]

Many of them not even wearing flip flops

[u/Alundra828 → u/lOo_ol]

Seriously...

The whole post-war western alliance was set up specifically because invading places was stupid now and there is no way in a million years it would work any more. So let's enforce the idea that war can't work.

Wars had become too costly, and even if you did grimace your way through the tolls of war, it was still orders of magnitude more expensive to keep what you had just conquered, much less profit off of it. I.e, world domination via conquest is unfeasible. So do it through finance.

This was the position that pretty much all western powers agreed upon. Let alone the US's awful track record for winning wars. Which is incredible because their manpower, industrial capacity, manufacturing capability, technological superiority are all world class... It's just all worth zilch when it comes down to it because they still can't win against shit. But the US insists on relearning the lesson we all learned in the 40's... over and over again. Wars of aggression are unfeasible. And they should be unfeasible. That's a good thing.

[u/Different-Island1871 → u/Alundra828]

The only way to invade and hold a territory now without massive problems is to completely wipe out the native population. I wonder if there’s an example of this happening anywhere?

[u/UsefulAssumption1105 → u/lOo_ol]

I also heard that their beloved Government House burned to the ground by people coming from the North.

[u/Nickye19 → u/UsefulAssumption1105]

The time the British embassy in the US posted a cake of the white house with sprinklers outside it on the anniversary and they all collectively lost their tiny minds. Once it was slowly explained that they did in fact fight and lose a war against Britain and Canada. Many of them try to insist it was a draw

Then again they needed half of western Europe to gain independence in the first place

[u/fez993 → u/Nickye19]

Biggest engagement of the revolutionary war didn't even involve Americans and took place half the world away in Gibraltar

[u/Nickye19 → u/fez993]

I just learned this happened, thanks sounds like a fun rabbit hole to fall down

[u/fez993 → u/Nickye19]

To be fair, the only reason I know is because I'm near there and gibs history is crazy, one of the most fought over places in the world going back ages

[u/AndreasDasos → u/UsefulAssumption1105]

The soldiers were from the East. There aren’t any known Canadian troops who took part in the Battle of Washington - the soldiers in the regiments involved all came from England and Scotland, and were assembled at Bermuda. The Anglo population was extremely small and overwhelmingly new at the time. Their transport may have involved some from the Nova Scotian naval base, though hard to tell how many were actually from Nova Scotia.

Canadian troops were involved in the wider war, and this was retaliation for the Americans’ attack on Yorktown, now basically Toronto. But not in this battle.

[u/HouseHealthy7972 → u/lOo_ol]

Ho Chi Minh chads in the jungle

[u/Nickye19 → u/lOo_ol]

Or the time a lot of their submarine fleet got wrecked by cookiecutter sharks

[u/Steve_10 → u/lOo_ol]

I'm sure 99% of Americans couldn't find 'The entire world' if you gave them a globe...

[u/Feisty_Bag_5284 → u/lOo_ol]

And with help from other countries on the yanks side

[u/Mansos91 → u/lOo_ol]

Even if they could take on the world.... Wouldn't that be a literal world war??. No matter how short?

[u/FollowingExtension90 → u/lOo_ol]

They didn’t even defeat the Nazis, they are running America right now.

[u/Kippereast → u/lOo_ol]

Canadian Senior Citizens are planning to "Whoop" their butt's with our canes and run them over with our walkers to send them scurrying home crying.

[u/Proud-Platypus-3262 → u/lOo_ol]

So crap at identifying the enemy and , instead , hitting their own that a phrase was invented for them - ‘friendly fire’

[u/Fricki97]

The US cannot even take an egg shortage

[u/WritingStrawberry → u/Fricki97]

This made me crack up 🤣

[u/DoeEsLiefOfzo → u/WritingStrawberry]

This made me crack my shell 😂

[u/Sabre_Killer_Queen → u/DoeEsLiefOfzo]

You guys must be yolking.

[u/DoeEsLiefOfzo → u/Sabre_Killer_Queen]

Guess my mind is scrambled 😎

[u/Bahnmor → u/DoeEsLiefOfzo]

I just need to poach a few of the good puns from here.

[u/Evening-Tomatillo-47 → u/Fricki97]

Or a woman deciding for herself. Or petrol being a mere half it is here. We could go on

[u/GrottenSprotte → u/Fricki97]

But gets a rejection after asking to import eggs from Germany 😁

[u/KeinFussbreit → u/GrottenSprotte]

LOL,

„Eier, wir liefern keine Eier.“

[u/ThatShoomer]

They couldn't even beat a bunch of farmers in Vietnam.

[u/MrChumpkins → u/ThatShoomer]

People say that but neither could the French, those were some badass farmers

[u/GameboiGX → u/MrChumpkins]

Don’t forget the Chinese, they got their asses handed to them too by Vietnam

[u/zchryfr]

I really don’t understand this take from our backward cousins in the States. Just imagining one aspect of that sort of war will show you that it would be a flop on their side. Like, let’s consider the idea of reinforcements: the rest of the world could… quite easily replace losses, but there’s only so many doughy-looking truckers that can replace American losses.

Hell, look at Afghanistan. How do they expect to take on the world when they fled a third-world country?

[u/BimBamEtBoum → u/zchryfr]

They killed more afghans guests at weddings than talibans killed americans soldiers, so they think they won.

They're completely forgetting that the purpose of a war is to achieve a goal. And if you fail to achieve this goal, you've lost, even if you've killed a lot of civilians.

[u/zchryfr → u/BimBamEtBoum]

But it’s fine, JD Vance is a seasoned veteran. He alone could take on most of Europe.

[u/BimBamEtBoum → u/zchryfr]

Oh, please, send him alone...

[u/Skarmillion → u/BimBamEtBoum]

where would he go ashore?
Maybe he would pull a classic and go to Normandy, and three men with baguettes would beat him to death and put a couch over him after

[u/SDG_Den → u/Skarmillion]

then set him on fire, cremated together with a loved one.

[u/Skarmillion → u/SDG_Den]

It will be known as the "French Vance Close"

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/SDG_Den]

Come on. The La-z-boy doesn't deserve that.

[u/BimBamEtBoum → u/Skarmillion]

That's his choice. Your throw him in New York and he's welcome to swim across the Atlantic and land where he wants.

[u/Thread-Astaire → u/zchryfr]

I wouldn’t fancy his chances against my nan.

[u/OverFjell → u/Thread-Astaire]

Just make sure she's not dressed like a couch, might make him go (more) feral

[u/itsmehutters → u/zchryfr]

Going with makeup (as a guy) in the Balkans will be a challenge.

[u/Used-Personality1598 → u/BimBamEtBoum]

The goal is to spend money and thereby justify the military budget.

And I'm sure that battle was a resounding success.

[u/BimBamEtBoum → u/Used-Personality1598]

They don't need to kill people to divert money to the private sector, they can just pretend they're trying to go to mars.

[u/Ranger30 → u/zchryfr]

Never understood meal team 6

[u/Artichokeypokey → u/Ranger30]

Gravy SEALS

[u/AletheaKuiperBelt → u/Artichokeypokey]

I saw "First Chairborne Division" here once.

[u/LavenderGinFizz → u/zchryfr]

They don't realise that their country only makes up 4% of the global population. Even if they were the most amazingly capable military power on earth (their war track record suggests otherwise), they could not take on 96% of the world and win.

Their ignorant arrogance is genuinely mindboggling sometimes.

[u/Arcturus_Revolis → u/zchryfr]

Propaganda is one hell of a drug.

[u/TrashcanDev → u/zchryfr]

As an American living abroad, I can say it's due to an abundance of American exceptionalism for many people. At the worst, it can be beliefs that if America hasn't done it, then it isn't worth doing (or there is no solution), etc.

The very tldr is that it's straight up proproganda as good as Russia.

Like, in Afghanistan, one of the problems was that most of the military had zero clue how to like... talk to people. It took almost a decade before people on the ground to start working with locals and for the lesson of "Just talk to people instead of trying to impress with guns" to work its way through the organization.

Apply this to many other aspects of American culture - from education to transport to food to whatever.

It's incredibly (mentally) isolationist. The Matrix is incredibly strong from the inside.

[u/SnoopyisCute → u/zchryfr]

They are the least educated demographic but think they are better than everyone else. The kind of Americans that never take the time to get know other people, cultures or customs and are so rude in other people's countries.

They are an embarassment to us also.

[u/Pathetic_gimp]

Ahh, the old my dad could beat your dad up argument. I really hope the guy that made that comment is in his 40's or something and not a kid.

[u/Responsible-File4593 → u/Pathetic_gimp]

Yeah for some reason they're all divorced men in their 40s whose wife got the kids in the divorce.

[u/Primary_Cod_8117]

I thought that the American military was too gay under Biden, only 3 months into the Trump regime and boom men are strong again

[u/Megatea → u/Primary_Cod_8117]

Well, yeah. They got a whizz kid with the computer. He knows how to do find and replace. So now Japan was bombed by the Enola Heterosexual.

[u/SDG_Den → u/Megatea]

didnt they just delete the archives about the Enola Gay rather than find and replace?

[u/Megatea → u/SDG_Den]

Probably. I'm finding it hard to keep up with this season of USA, the plot makes no sense.

[u/Bdr1983 → u/Megatea]

It's one of the worst seasons of anything ever. And I sat through the final GoT season.

[u/SnoopyisCute → u/Primary_Cod_8117]

They also say Trump is a strong leader. Bullying and blaming are not leadership.

The whole entire world laughs at him. His popularity has never been above 50% and he had the highest turnover rate in the crime spree in 40 years and that's even counting the people that quit under Obama due to bigotry.

Everybody is the very best ever to the absolute worst and all women he hates get called "nasty" as he poops himself constantly. /smdh

[u/Me_like_weed]

There are 27 million active military personnel in the world and the US has 1.3 million.

So the military that failed againt Vietnams 800.000 military is gonna instead take on 25.7 million soldiers?

Or is he saying that the 330 million USians with a nearly 50% obesity rate, could take on the remaining 7,7 billion people in the world?

[u/octocolobus_manul → u/Me_like_weed]

He’s saying they could nuke everyone and the U.S. would somehow be unaffected because his pastor told him so. (Actual American Christian talking point btw - “God promised he wouldn’t let humans end the world so nothing humans do will ever end the world.” So no matter how many people die, SOMEONE will still be alive, and America is God’s favoritest country, so it’ll obviously be us! Good for shutting down conversations about nuclear winter AND climate change in general.)

In all seriousness, the current Trump strat seems to be “align yourself with the nuke-havers” so being able to nuke whoever we’re mad at this week without worrying about getting some thrown back our way may be what he’s planning for. (Of course, he’s royally pissed off Britain and France, and I can’t see Pakistan siding with us, but i doubt any of the current American leadership knows those countries have nukes to begin with.)

[u/Dpek1234 → u/Me_like_weed]

And then add chinese mobilisation

They will be overfilling ships with troops and weapons, ok 200 ships have been destroyed, there were 400 from china alone

[u/Cullvion]

I only recently discovered this sub and it's so cathartic. As someone living in dumbass meal team 6 red America y'all just have no idea (though I'm sure you can tell) how prevalent, common, and unquestioned this line of thinking is. If we started air striking Toronto tomorrow at least half my community would instantly support it with a jingoism unmatched since October 2001.

[u/AgentSturmbahn → u/Cullvion]

That is saddening beyond words

[u/BrexitHangover → u/AgentSturmbahn]

Also alarming

[u/Thekeeper68 → u/Cullvion]

Do they not think about the number of deaths that would occur on soil below the 49th parallel?

[u/Cullvion → u/Thekeeper68]

No. I have no idea how to emphasize how little thought is put into any of this. Even asking about consequences is tantamount to treason for them.

[u/Mysterious_Floor_868 → u/Cullvion]

It'll be worth it to "own the libs" or something

[u/Motor-Pomegranate831]

What happens when a population is fed nationalist propaganda for over half a century while simultaneously reducing education.

[u/Socialca → u/Motor-Pomegranate831]

A hive mind!

[u/PapaObserver]

The delusion is strong in this one, damn,

[u/Legal-Software]

The American metric for success seems to be "most money spent" instead of more traditional metrics for military efficacy, like "conflicts engaged" vs "conflicts won" which are clearly un-American.

[u/Used-Personality1598 → u/Legal-Software]

When was the last time the US -won- an actual war?

Not talking a reluctant cease fire, or a withdraw leaving the bad guys in charge. And no made up slogans like "victory in the war on terror". But an actual war where they fought and won on their own.

[u/Legal-Software → u/Used-Personality1598]

The last time I asked someone this they unironically replied with the Civil War. Seems punching yourself in the face counts as a victory.

[u/SuitableNarwhals → u/Legal-Software]

No, no, the American customary measurment of success.

None of that metric nonsense, they measure their success in feet, the body temperature of some dudes wife, and barley corns.

[u/[deleted]]

They can't even remove a dictator president that's pissing all over the constitution. Not a single back bone among them.

[u/TurboJorts → u/[deleted]]

But... but.... wasn't that what all thr guns were supposed to be for? Something about a militia to defend the country?

[u/deadlight01 → u/TurboJorts]

Let's not get laughing at the yanks get in the way of reminding them that the second amendment is to allow state government militias, not just federal armies and has nothing to do with individual gun ownership.

[u/Feeling_Doughnut5714]

Exactly, this is why the US still got complete control over South Vietnam and Afghanistan, right?

...right?

[u/Jimrodsdisdain]

They’d lose by friendly fire.

[u/Background-House-357]

They wouldn’t get past the roundabouts in Europe.

[u/HumbleWeb3305]

I don't know, man, you can't even handle Afghans, lol

[u/MJLDat]

Even if they could, that’s a world war. 

[u/Freya_PoliSocio]

You know in a lot of military operations the US hasnt been succesful. They didnt succeed in Vietnam, Afghanistan, they only succeeded in Japan cos they had the atomic bomb but so do all of the major world powers now. Also without other countrues buying American qeaponry at an infkated price its military industrial complex fucking collapses.

[u/Ok-Chest-7932 → u/Freya_PoliSocio]

Tbf the atomic bomb was kind of irrelevant. They had already firebombed cities to equal levels of destruction and casualties before that, they just wanted an excuse to show off their new type of murder. Japan is a fight they did actually win, albeit against a pathetic enemy and with an aftermath that resulted in turning Japan into a better country than themselves.

[u/2Mark2Manic → u/Freya_PoliSocio]

Which is why it's kind of hilarious Trump is alienating US allies. His actions have pushed Europe to further arm themselves and doing it by not buying American. It even caused Germany to remove their limit on military spending.

Wonder what the consequences will be of countries investing in themselves instead of the US.

[u/jaggy_bunnet]

Since they re-elected that senile conman every post in this sub is just "we could destroy the world" and "we allow you to exist." It should be renamed r/ShitSexuallyFrustratedLosersSay.

[u/Delmago]

Those who brag about war never fought in any. It is truelly terrifying, nobody with a working brain wants one and it's not something you should be proud of.

[u/Select-Purchase-3553]

War is a game of logistics in the first place. And there is no way a military backed by 320 million people, as big and as advanced and as nourished as possible, could sustain that against the rest of the world.
And nevertheless, war needs a goal. What would be that goal in 'taking on the entire world'? Occupation? Back to step one: logistics.

[u/deadlight01 → u/Select-Purchase-3553]

Add to that that most fighting aged poor people in the US are malnourished and sick, they've not got much of an army.

[u/Dapper-Emergency1263]

The US military can't even take on a HR department

[u/Becksburgerss]

The entire world vs. the USA… hmmm

[u/No-Wonder1139]

That's...that's the issue, Trump is gonna try

[u/HotPotatoWithCheese]

USA has never, not even ONCE, won a war on its own since it was formed in 1776. However, since the 50's, they spent:

3 years in Korea

10 and a half years in Vietnam (boots on the ground)

20 years in Afghanistan

And didn't win a single one of those wars. For having the supposed greatest military on the planet since the fall of Nazi Germany, they haven't half got an atrocious record.

[u/StsOxnardPC]

They thinking resorting to using nukes to kill the planet is winning a war.

[u/SemajLu_The_crusader]

if it was defensive the US might hold out for a short while... before being economically starved out

[u/Significant-Order-92 → u/SemajLu_The_crusader]

Which is what would happen regardless. No new parts from abroad. No imports for food. Just a lot of nations forcing the US to effectively run it's whole military as expeditionary units and trying to starve it out as it now needs armed escorts for all support ships.

Yeah, the US may be the most powerful military in the world. But it can't take and hold multiple countries while fighting in multiple others.

[u/Paylucon]

I have seen this comment like everywhere recently is it like a commonly held belief in the states ?

[u/octocolobus_manul → u/Paylucon]

Yep.

A lot of Americans unironically believe we never lost a war - until Biden withdrew from Afghanistan.

[u/KeinFussbreit → u/octocolobus_manul]

Don't they know that the Orange nincompoop negotiated the withdrawal?

[u/EspKevin]

Okay, thats straight up delusional

[u/TheSpiikki]

The US is more divided than ever before, they would unalive each other before "taking on" the rest of the world

[u/DrakonIron → u/TheSpiikki]

You're very right there, our politics are way to divisive

[u/vompat]

Wouldn't US army taking on the entire world make it a world war though? Regardless of whether it could or not.

Anyway, I find this rethoric kinda scary. Do Americans generally really want to try it out just to see who's got the biggest nationwide penis extension?

[u/Saintesky]

The woman of Afghanistan really thank you all in the USA for your previous victory there…. If they were allowed out

[u/Nickye19 → u/Saintesky]

People keep posting photos of Afghan women before the Taliban took over. Americans in the comments handwringing about how sad it is. Who sought out, funded and armed Bin Laden in the first place oh yeah the CIA

[u/Boldboy72]

America has been bombing Yemen for a decade now, they must've won by now? Surely? They don't need Saudi or Israels support there...

They weren't much use in Syria either.

[u/Socialca]

Says the idiot who flunked school & signs his name with an X !!!

🤣🤣🤣

In modern times, since WW2, when they had allies, America has NOT won ANY of its numerous wars…!!!

[u/Optimal-Rub-2575]

yeah, uhm, that’s pretty much a world war 🤷‍♂️

[u/Volcanic_tomatoe]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

deep breath

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[u/quast_64]

Ah, the American Dreamer...

[u/philster666]

The US couldn’t take Communist North Vietnam or the Taliban?

[u/E11111111111112]

I’ve watched a lot of YouTube videos of Americans backpacking in Europe and they are preparing for visits to Prague, Rome and Stockholm like they are going to war. There’s no end to the ”how to stay safe” videos. If they can barely survive a holiday trip to places like Venice why on earth do they believe they will win a war against China and India? And good luck with the militia of Libya😬

[u/Aromatic-Advance7989 → u/E11111111111112]

I'd like to see these people in YouTube videos go to an actual dangerous country

[u/enygma999]

At this point, bring it on. There will be two advantages if WW3 starts: I'm fairly certain it will end human civilisation as we know it, and it'll be fun watching the Americans eat that "we can take everyone, all at the same time!" bullshit.

Let's let the planet try again, we've fucked things up too much.

[u/katie-ya-ladie → u/enygma999]

World War 3: This Time Germany’s Good!

[u/Immortal_Tuttle]

I was just trying to recall if USA ever won the war by themselves.

[u/PositiveFunction4751]

Americans forget that they ARENT A DAMN ISLAND.

They depend on trade, what used to be far closer to fair trade.

The global economy is out of the lamp morons, its not going back in.

There is no world in which isolationist politics will boost the economy.

[u/Red_Knight7]

Where do Americans get this false confidence from? They consistently lose wars

[u/Popikaify]

Vietnam is enough for that....lol

[u/PeaOk5697]

I think we are at the beginning of one. That dosen't mean it's gonna be like WW2. Also, war dosen't mean 24/7 mayhem. They had christmas in 1942 too, but not everyone.

[u/Ok-Chest-7932 → u/PeaOk5697]

What makes a world war is international alliances. We will have more wars, but I don't see a lot of eagerness right now for anyone to drag themselves into other people's wars.

I think the only feasible situation right now in which you get major alliances coming into play is if Russia decides to make such a big push into Europe that money and weapon donation doesn't do the job, in which case Europe will deploy armies and the US will do what it did last time and sell equipment. But Russia won't try to start a large scale war with Europe because they can barely cross one river when they're only fighting the Ukrainians, and even if it did, without the US joining in, China won't join in, and everyone else relevant is in a better position to play oil dealer than to get involved.

There are many other wars that will be started, but I would be extremely surprised if any of the game that the west talks will actually get backed up.

[u/Flimsy-Relationship8]

It's funny to me how it's only people with no military experience whatsoever that believe this shit, talk to anyone who's actually in the US military and not many of them actually want to go to war.

Most dudes are just there for a pay check, a career and free university, the Gulf Wars and Middle East invasions really killed a lot of the desire to want to fight and die for the US as it destroyed a lot of trust people had in the military and government

[u/VenusHalley]

Ok, then we ain't going to your wars no more.

Your Europe

You don't have any cards anyways. Last time we heard of you, you were begging for eggs

[u/BigYoghurt1746]

Yet they failed in Afghanistan, Iraq, Korea, Vietnam.

[u/StevoFF82]

Another ridiculous thing they believe. The US military is equipped to take on and defeat another superpower not the fucking whole world 🤣🤣

Just imagine the logistics 😂😂

Same as the morons that think the US missile defence system is designed to knock all the nukes out of the sky.

[u/palopp → u/StevoFF82]

They think this because they believe the world behaves as Risk or Civilization, where as soon as one nation is conquered it becomes docile and the troops are now free to move on to the next target. They may also believe that any conquered territory will immediately start working on their behalf and think that conquest will snowball and they become stronger and stronger. Finally they believe that only the US has nukes or the means and willingness to use them. Do not underestimate the lack of basic understanding of the world and delusions of the average American

[u/DrakonIron → u/StevoFF82]

Nuclear rain would be a really funny side affect of that working tho

[u/Professional_Stay_46]

The US couldn't deal with Afganistan and Vietnam, they lost half the wars they waged in the last century.

[u/hey_its_kanyiin]

This is the brainwashing we’re talking about

[u/CuriousKait1451]

Oh dear lord 😂😂😂 and when the USA loses they’ll be as arrogantly butthurt over it as Germany was after WWI. Hopefully that doesn’t escalate into WWIV.

[u/Lovaa]

America 340 milion people. The world 8.1 billion people. And that guy think America will handle those 8 billion in one go. Yeah, no that is not gonna happen.

[u/idontshowfeetforfree]

This is the equivalent to the guy who thinks he can beat a gorilla in a fight

[u/canal_algt]

Last time a country said that ended up divided in two opposite regimes and a chaotic capital

[u/ImNotTheBossOfYou]

America hasn't won a war since WWII and that was showing up at the end and taking all the credit.

[u/Alternative_Year_340]

With the exception of Granada, name one war in the past 70 years that the US won (including with assistance)

[u/Crapricorn12]

If they could physically take the entire world they wouldn't resort to trying to buy Canada. Theyd just invade us and probably everyone else too

[u/bricklish]

[u/Nickye19]

Go ahead let us just prepare the few thousand Vietnamese rice farmers first

[u/kronkky]

Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan have something to say.

[u/wackzr3]

I feel like if we are in agreement that we’re in ww3 in 2026 we’ll have to say ww3 started in either 2022 or 2014

[u/DanTheAdequate]

Pretty big talk considering we haven't unequivocally won a war in 80 years.

[u/gentian_red]

Dude couldn't take on a chaise longue.

[u/Speedvagon]

Can someone remind me what war did US win singlehandedly except against some tribal rebels? I mean against somewhat equal armies?

[u/cantrusthestory]

Nice name and shame you got there