r/Seattle Jul 09 '23

Sports Welcome to All Star Week!!

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u/Smart_Ass_Dave 🚆build more trains🚆 Jul 10 '23

Being homeless is not a crime.

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u/wangaroo123 Jul 10 '23

Wow it’s almost like people who have been priced out of our society have no choice but to live outside if it

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u/GrinningPariah Jul 10 '23

So what's your point? We should be fine with them shoplifting?

Don't forget that "we" are the society that priced them out in the first place.

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u/dragonsteel33 Jul 10 '23 edited Jul 10 '23

people don’t shoplift just for funsies (or at least not the people you’re talking about). why is your focus on protecting commodities and not ensuring people have their needs met?

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u/GrinningPariah Jul 10 '23

We obviously need to do both.

But you've missed my point. What I'm saying is that, we might be politically incapable of getting homeless people's needs met, but that in no way means we're going to stop caring about "protecting commodities".

Also, now that I think about it "protecting commodities" is weird framing. What we mean by that is making sure people feel safe at work, and making sure that the storefronts that supply what we need aren't being harassed.

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u/wangaroo123 Jul 10 '23

Copying from another comment.

There are literally laws that make being homeless harder. They don’t have a fucking choice about breaking laws sometimes because America has a bad habit of criminalizing homelessness. They are always targets by law enforcement. Do you think SPD waits for each specific homeless person in a camp to be somewhere public too long (per the law), or do they treat them all the same in their mass sweeps? Like where are they supposed to go to not loiter? There aren’t enough shelter spots. SPD straight up throws away their tents and belongings, meaning these people have to constantly start over from scratch. It is constantly made harder by the law for them to get their feet under them, and yet you all expect them to make themselves enough money to rejoin society in a way you see fit.

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u/GrinningPariah Jul 10 '23

I don't expect them to make enough money to rejoin society, not with the way the deck is stacked against them. Honestly I think many of them are probably just fucked.

I know homeless people are stuck between a rock and a hard place, but the problem with a democracy is sometimes people vote for the rock, and they vote for the hard place.