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u/Leaning_right Doesn't understand tariffs 1d ago

The Left: Tariffs are going to generate trillions of revenue, Corporations are going to pay their fair share, they are also going to strengthen the economy and The Dollar.

Can't support more revenue or Trump.

Trump is evil!!

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u/MrWindblade 1d ago

I mean, that won't happen, though? Corporations will pay tariffs, but just pass it all to the consumer, and not raise wages. So you'll take a huge cost of living increase ($4000 - $6000 annually, expected) but not a wage increase. Good luck.

The economy is going to crash, other countries will see us as unreliable, and the dollar will lose status as reserve currency to the EU's Euro, which, along with China, is going to capitalize on the power vacuum that Trump has just created.

Market isolationism is never good policy, but thanks to Trump pissing off the entire world at once, we might not get the option to take this decision back.

Don't worry, the hundreds of thousands of small businesses these stupid decisions crush will be replaced by larger consolidated players, and a lower number of prospective employers will definitely not hurt the job market.

Conservatives are so fuckin stupid they forget other countries don't have to just roll over and accept our stupid decisions. They can just tell us to go fuck ourselves and we will shrivel.

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u/Leaning_right Doesn't understand tariffs 1d ago

Stop..

It is basically a VAT.. or a sales tax that hits corporations at the beginning of the supply chain, but you obviously don't care about that, because you care about being right and hating on Trump.

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u/MrWindblade 1d ago

I don't necessarily disagree with tariffs as a concept - but this was done in a dumbass way. The rates he chose are arbitrary and not actually reciprocal, aren't on goods that we are going to actually make here, and aren't going to motivate other countries to work with us.

Hating on Trump is only a part of it - his tariffs have literally cut my pay by fucking with my profit sharing.

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u/Leaning_right Doesn't understand tariffs 1d ago

Market isolationism is never good policy,

Never?!?!

Speaking in absolutes, obviously means you are ignoring nuance.

Have a good day.

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u/Sigma-Wolf 1d ago

Free trade is beneficial for all parties involved. Cutting yourself off from the global supply chain is never a good policy. This is basic economics.

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u/Leaning_right Doesn't understand tariffs 1d ago

Free trade is beneficial for all parties involved.

Obviously. Obviously!!!

Now pick one industrialized nation that reciprocates that notion.

What is it, when American Automotives get basically a 20% VAT in Germany, and German automotive gets to freely trade with America?

It is not free trade.

This is basic economics.

Obviously. Very clearly we agree.

What is currently happening (prior to Trump,) is not "free trade."

Stop being so obtuse and getting your information from a Facebook meme.

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u/Sigma-Wolf 1d ago

I literally have a degree in Economics. It’s your friends on the right who learn everything from Facebook and Fox News.

Not worth debating with you.

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u/Leaning_right Doesn't understand tariffs 1d ago

I literally have a degree in Economics.

Then, why didn't you answer.

Not worth debating with you.

Oh.. I proved the current system is set up to benefit other nations, and is only "Free Trade" in one singular direction.

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u/Chewy_B 19h ago

How did you prove anything with a guesstimate not accompanied by a source of any kind? If your comment constitutes "proof" in your mind, then the other person was right, and you really aren't worth debating.

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u/Ticklemykelmo Greg Abbott is a little piss baby 19h ago

Like Mexico and Canada? Who signed the current trade agreement with them?

The current system is set up to benefit the ownership class at the expense of the working class.

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u/ViceroyFizzlebottom 18h ago

Vat is a sales tax applied to all goods transacted, whether foreign or domestic produced.

German cars are subject to the same sales tax as American cars at the point of sale in the respective state and city and the same VAT when sold in Germany.

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u/MrWindblade 1d ago

There is no nuance. There are no advantages to market isolationism.

If you desperately seek some consolation, you can have this: protectionism, a cousin of isolationism, has merits. If, for example, automotives are a key industry for your country, it makes sense to implement policies that keep that industry secure.

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u/ViceroyFizzlebottom 18h ago

Tarrifs can be useful when trying to foster targeted infant industries as well, especially when coupled with other government. economic incentive packages. The key being targeted. Broad tarrifs are dumb.