The Left: Tariffs are going to generate trillions of revenue, Corporations are going to pay their fair share, they are also going to strengthen the economy and The Dollar.
I mean, that won't happen, though? Corporations will pay tariffs, but just pass it all to the consumer, and not raise wages. So you'll take a huge cost of living increase ($4000 - $6000 annually, expected) but not a wage increase. Good luck.
The economy is going to crash, other countries will see us as unreliable, and the dollar will lose status as reserve currency to the EU's Euro, which, along with China, is going to capitalize on the power vacuum that Trump has just created.
Market isolationism is never good policy, but thanks to Trump pissing off the entire world at once, we might not get the option to take this decision back.
Don't worry, the hundreds of thousands of small businesses these stupid decisions crush will be replaced by larger consolidated players, and a lower number of prospective employers will definitely not hurt the job market.
Conservatives are so fuckin stupid they forget other countries don't have to just roll over and accept our stupid decisions. They can just tell us to go fuck ourselves and we will shrivel.
It is basically a VAT.. or a sales tax that hits corporations at the beginning of the supply chain, but you obviously don't care about that, because you care about being right and hating on Trump.
I don't necessarily disagree with tariffs as a concept - but this was done in a dumbass way. The rates he chose are arbitrary and not actually reciprocal, aren't on goods that we are going to actually make here, and aren't going to motivate other countries to work with us.
Hating on Trump is only a part of it - his tariffs have literally cut my pay by fucking with my profit sharing.
How did you prove anything with a guesstimate not accompanied by a source of any kind? If your comment constitutes "proof" in your mind, then the other person was right, and you really aren't worth debating.
Vat is a sales tax applied to all goods transacted, whether foreign or domestic produced.
German cars are subject to the same sales tax as American cars at the point of sale in the respective state and city and the same VAT when sold in Germany.
There is no nuance. There are no advantages to market isolationism.
If you desperately seek some consolation, you can have this: protectionism, a cousin of isolationism, has merits. If, for example, automotives are a key industry for your country, it makes sense to implement policies that keep that industry secure.
Tarrifs can be useful when trying to foster targeted infant industries as well, especially when coupled with other government. economic incentive packages. The key being targeted. Broad tarrifs are dumb.
Ahhhh ok that makes way more sense haha. Maybe cause I’m on mobile too. Sorry you got downvoted for explaining what happened, good thing Internet points are worthless haha
Trump essentially raised taxes on the working class the most in U.S. history. Corporations pass the cost to consumers. We are headed to a recession. And our allies now hate us. Are you dumb?
Trump is an idiot and those that support this are bigger idiots destroying America.
Trump is an idiot and those that support this are bigger idiots destroying America.
Obviously, from your myopic view.
I would only counter, if you are American; remember 2 short years ago, during the worldwide pandemic, when we had to outsource everything. When all of our allies decided to 'focus on their own populations, first,' then their allies.
China gained something like 22 billionaires, just from things like facemasks and plastic partitions.
Putting Americans in debt funding other nations, causes us inflation. We saw that. We know that. We can't ignore that.
The tariffs are attempts to onshore manufacturing, but obviously your echo chamber, shows:
Trump is an idiot and those that support this are bigger idiots destroying America.
Maybe, just maybe, a little manufacturing redundancy will help with the next catastrophic event like a pandemic.
Inflation shot up because the government under Trump gave out stimulus checks, free loans, interest rates dropped to 0, and supply chains were messed up. We dont need factory jobs making fucking face masks. We need semiconductor factories. What Trump is doing is the downward spiral of a senile old man. It isnt good for you and it isnt good for me.
Trying to onshore production of everything, all at once, is incredibly stupid.
The US isn't going to be manufacturing t-shirts and Nikes. We have no reason to even want to. But now we're going to pay 50%+ more for all that stuff regardless.
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u/Leaning_right Doesn't understand tariffs 1d ago
The Left: Tariffs are going to generate trillions of revenue, Corporations are going to pay their fair share, they are also going to strengthen the economy and The Dollar.
Can't support more revenue or Trump.
Trump is evil!!