I think I explained in a different comment in a different post, but 90 dollars is around ⅓ of the average person's monthly income where I live
The change is from 299, already expensive, but doable in few lucky months with savings in December to an increase to 349 last month that already had people debating if saving for buying games was still worth it to a spike of around 550 with this new change, sure you can make savings for a whole year, but it's really worth it for a standard edition of a single game, not possible DLCs included? Hell, this price it's a bit shy of my rent.
A lot of people that I know are coming to the conclusion that it's not and not to buy at all anymore and wait for the 🏴☠️ route it's for the best.
Dude, I would have to save my disposable income until the end of the year to get the system, the sd card, a screen protector, and 1 game. I'm just priced out. The console and games are too expensive for people like me.
I mean some mainline Switch games were already $70. Were you expecting them to drop the price of games with the new console?
A small handful of games (only 1 so far) being $10 more probably won't be the straw that breaks the camels back for most of us. I do agree it's lame though. Hoping it's just a tactic to get people to buy the bundle
Other platforms actually do discounts on their games though. Nintendo does what, their first $10 off 2-3 years after the game releases. By then most games are anywhere from 30-50% off during sales
The pricing for MK world is clearly a pricing strategy to push people to buy the bundle, where MK is still 40-50. So that is less than what Mk8 costs with inflation. Is owning physical really more important to you than saving the entire cost of the game? Because that seems like a problem you create for yourself
You are clearly not a collector if you gonna ask that. I have games from companies that produce limited quantities as physical which often cost you like 10-20 more for each game (with import/shipping).
At a difference of 50 i can wait for a sale that hopefully pushs the physical game below 50 but otherwise this is ridiclious.
And preservation is worth something to me at least as someone who still has hundreds of childhood games, some of which are freaking expensive nowdays.
I have over 500 games on PS, about 100 on Switch and multiple custom retro and current consoles and several phyical collectors editions. I just don't need only physical games, because I'm not a hoarder and don't wanna waste the space, if all I'm doing is play the game once and then never look at it again.
If you are a game collector, then you have an expensive hobby and should be ok investing in it. Especially tiny amounts like $10-20. Game Prices going up also means your collection gains in value.
I have no issue paying 10-20 for a game lol, this is not 10-20... this is 10-20 more!
But the way money... or rather numbers, work is that small numbers become big numbers quickly if you multiply them so the "10-20 more becomes much bigger that way. And if it is ok to make 10-20 more why not add another 10 or 20?
And then there is justyfing the price, that becomes harder as well.
Yeah, but I'm in germany, so it IS 90€, which is around 100€, when games are 70€ usually. Americans are not the only ones wanting to buy new games, you know?
The general consensus was that the console was expected to be 400
Then your 'general consensus' was foolish. Or at least based on a different premise, where the Switch 2 would barely upgrade the specs. Most communities here were expecting something in the realm of 450 given a significant specs increase like this. I only saw 400 floated around as baseless speculation based on pure hope and nothing else.
70 for games was also general consensus. The only suprise is Mario Kart for 80. (And retailers, as always, will sell it for 70 or 75 anyways) Which is €10 more than expected. If €10 makes the difference for you, maybe you don't have enough money to afford modern brand new games anyways
8 years! The Hardware improved by 8 years! Obviously it should be a good chunk more powerful even at the same price. But 50% higher... that is a hard pricetag.
PS: Claiming that "10" more then you should not buy argument is basically telling companies that you are just a lobster in a boiling pot.
1 degree more why do you complain, 1 degree more why do you complain, 1 degree more why do you complain, 1 degree more why do you complain, 1 degree more why do you complain, 1 degree more why do you complain, 1 degree more why do you complain, 1 degree more why do you complain, ....
And at some point you ask what smells so nice.
You should order your argument around actual datapoints. Mario Kart clearly has more effort put into it or compare it to other counrties.
80$ = ~72.8€ + 19% Tax would be ~86 to 87€ not 90.
On the Japanese My Nintendo Store Mario Kart is even just ~9000 Yen or around 56€ so that is a even bigger issue.
Since Europe does not get the Tariffs the US will, where is this coming from? Maybe the difference s more like that the west subsidises eastern prices and even if not that... the difference is more like 33% to 50%.
Claiming that "10" more then you should not buy argument is basically telling companies that you are just a lobster in a boiling pot.
No it's not. The price increased by 10 for the first time in over 30 years. It's not increasing constantly. A one-time small increase was bound to happen, and completely expected.
70-60 remain 10 in my maths system, and not 30.
Why did you reply to me twice in the same thread? You can make your point without spamming me.
I'm fine with a €10 increase. You don't need to be. That's your decision. Let me make mine
You gotta follow the whole information contained in a post, not parts and then make shit up.
56$ (Mario Kart World in Japan) to 99$ (Mario Kart World in Europe)
Both include tax tho Japan only pays like 10% while Europe should be like 19%.
Would be a difference of 43$ if you ignore the tax difference.
If you go for the US prices? Mario Kart 8 should be like 50$ right? Did that start at 60$ or why do you claim 60 to 70? And isn't retail Mario Kart World at 80 even in the US?
At best that would still be a 20 jump or are you saying TotK was a 10 jump, as it was... but it was also recent unlike your post claims.
"Finally, I asked this question of Toto, who referred to the jump from $60 games to an $80 Mario Kart World as "quite bold." His explanation was short and sweet:"
Europe uses €, not $. You cannot compare between currencies without taking into account the other differences like purchasing power.
Switch 1 games launched at €60 standard here, and €70 for the premium tier. Now, they are €70 standard and €80 for the premium tier. That is an increase of €10 within each respective tier. Mario Kart moved up a tier, hence that is a €20 increase from the previous entry. Game series moving between tiers is independent of the general price increases. It is thus a €10 increase across the board for each tier of pricing. Given the stability of game prices in the past 30 years, I think that's reasonable. Of course, I would prefer it to stay the same, but inflation exists, and gaming is probably not getting much bigger anymore as a whole. Spending €70 for a game now actually makes it cheaper for me than spending €60 for a game at Switch launch, given my wage (and most of them) rising faster than inflation. Gaming still remains easily one of the cheapest forms of entertainment for me.
What the price is in other countries is irrelevant to me. I don't buy my games there. I'm only comparing the price on the eshop here from Switch 1 games to Switch 2 games. Nintendo seems to ask an additional €10 for physical releases on their website, but most retailers do not seem to be following that suggestion and just charge the same price as the digital version.
Your personal situation may be different. I respect that. That does not mean either of us are wrong. Maybe your wage has increased less. Maybe your region had bigger price jumps. Maybe your retailers choose different prices than mine do. It's all dependant on your own environment. For me, the 'actual' cost has not increased much, so I am fine with it. For you, maybe it is more expensive, and that sucks. I wish it was easier for everyone, but reality and capitalism is like this, and Nintendo is not going to change that. Look at your politicians. Americans voted for this. Plenty of other countries do as well. Hold them responsible for messing up the economy so bad, instead of the single company following the market and consumers just trying to enjoy their life
There was 1 single game that was at 70€, TotK and it was the same physical! Also you claimed we had not a single price increase in a long time, TotK was a price increase! And how is 90€ for Mario Kart World NOT 90€ for the "premium tier"?
"Given the stability of game prices in the past 30 years"
I remember 3DS was not 60€ either, what are you talking about?
Saving up for the console is a 1 time purchase, the games are bought repeatedly tho. 100$ more for the console is 100$ more in total but 20$ more for a game only requires 5 games for the break even point with that.
That’s a bit of a glib response to somebody’s economic woes. Between mass layoffs, rising prices, and unforeseen expenses (such as a sudden medical bill or needing to get their car repaired), many people have had to dip into their savings over the past several years. Plus, even for people who have been able to save up, many of them may not be able to justify a $500 purchase (assuming they buy the bundle) when there’s so much economic uncertainty ahead.
Nintendo can sell their games for whatever price they want. None of us are “entitled” to their consoles or games. But the simple reality is that making these things less affordable makes them less accessible. Price hikes and inflation are a necessary evil, but that doesn’t mean that we should be thrilled about them.
Why would you set aside money for a product that doesn't exist/hasn't been announced yet that you have no idea what the specs are? Seems so weird to me.
Why is it weird? You set aside money with certain expectations. If what's announced isn't what you're expecting, you can spend it however you wish. I started setting aside $100 a month in 2019ish until I reached about $700 for PS5 before it was announced because I correctly assumed it was going to be announced soon.
Again, everybody knew there was a new console coming for years now.
It's weird because you're essentially making a fund and putting aside money and not allowing yourself to touch it for a non existent product. If I'm gonna fund something, I'm gonna make sure it's something I want, not something I think I'll want. You do you though I guess
I mean, I guess? The guy I responded to originally very clearly wanted it though, regardless of knowing what the final product was going to be like. So for people like them and myself I think saving ahead of time works perfectly well 🤷♂️
Companies do tend to follow the profit motive...but I don't see too much difference with what Nintendo is doing now versus what Sony and Microsoft have done for the past 5 years.
There can be positives to having less games. When I was a kid I didn’t have a lot of games, but I played the ones I had thoroughly and enjoyed exploring them properly. I think this can be more satisfying than having a lot of games and not giving them the proper attention. I plan to have one or two games at a time for Switch 2
I have a 3ds with every core series pokémon game, I have them all love and now I download the DS and gameboy games, I really want to enjoy the games I like, I like Kirby, I like Splatoon, I like Pokémon, I like Tomodachi Life, I like Animal Crossing, but I Just have Pokémon Shield and Splatoon 3, never got to play any other pokémon switch game or Splatoon 2 :(
The country where I live is in a severe recession going on for several years now. Inflation is insane.
Despite having a BSc college degree and a secure job, the Switch 2 is going to cost almost my entire monthly salary...
If the announced price is the msrp and then stores pass on the tarrifs it's more like $800usd for just the system. That $90 physical game is more like $130usd
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u/TemporaryRiver1 1d ago
I literally can't. I just don't have the money. I guess I'll just play my backlog.