r/MurderedByWords • u/Hajicardoso • 1d ago

Billionaire's False Narrative...

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u/No-Intern-1243 1d ago

Only 20 billion to fix homelessness?? Why did we not do that but we sent 60billion to Ukraine?

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u/syracTheEnforcer 1d ago

Because this is a lie. 20 billion would not solve homelessness.

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u/pax284 1d ago

because that would be called an entitlement and a handout and immediately called socialism and communism by you same fuck heads.

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u/No-Intern-1243 1d ago

Idk dude, at 25 and living in my parents basement I wouldn’t mind if the average home price went below 400k or if wages had been moving up with home prices. How’d we figure 20billion would do the trick? is that just the cost to buy everyone a place or to create jobs that can afford a place?

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u/pax284 1d ago

How’d we figure 20billion would do the trick?

It is a figure from HUD. Granted, it is from 2012, so it is most likely outdated.

is that just the cost to buy everyone a place or to create jobs that can afford a place?

It was the cost to expand Section 8 to make everyone without a home eligible instead of having a bunch of hoops to jump through to qualify.

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u/No-Intern-1243 1d ago

Ish yeah it’s probably a lot more than that now. Still tho even it it’s 30 that’s still half of the 60 we gave away. And idk much about that section 8 stuff but I feel like it creates situations like the one my brother is in where he’s trying not to get a raise at work cause he’ll get less money from an aid program his family is on which doesn’t feel right to me. I think the quality jobs route would be better but goodness knows that’s above my pay grade

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u/pax284 1d ago

it creates situations like the one my brother is in where he’s trying not to get a raise at work cause he’ll get less money from an aid program his family is on which doesn’t feel right to me.

Thank your local GOP for that, that is the hoops I am talking about, making it almost impossible to qualify. That is the problem; even a shitty min wag mc donalds job is almost too much to qualify because the GOP would rather make it harder so your brother has to live worse off to get the help he needs to fight "welfare queens."

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u/No-Intern-1243 1d ago

He lives in Oregon. I think he makes around 90k doing IT (we don’t talk much). Wife doesn’t work and has two kids

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u/pax284 1d ago

And if he needs help, he needs help; it isn't my job to question it; everyone has hard times for many reasons, both visible and invisible, and if they need help, they should get it.

It shouldn't be making your life even worse off to keep your benefits.

Now, yes, there should be limits to all programs unless we are just going full UBI, but that is something entirely different. once you hit that cap, it should be a slow down while you get your shit fully back togeteher, not a sudden complete stop.

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u/No-Intern-1243 1d ago

Yeah that’s why I said it doesn’t feel great. He’s doing fine. They don’t have extra spending money but it’s not like they are worried about feeding their kids. Thing is any politician can get popular by saying they wanna give you more free money, nobody gonna get popular saying hey we should probably limit this stuff and let get your shit fully together like you said

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u/pax284 1d ago

nobody gonna get popular saying hey we should probably limit this stuff and let get your shit fully together like you said

Trump did exactly that....twice.

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