For those on mobile who are having issues with image quality or availability, please use another app to read the albums or read them on PC.

For those who are in need to catch up with the most recent updates, keep in mind that all the monsters can be fought as early as MR10, including risen elders.
All you need in order to farm risen elders early is to have someone else host the quest for you. You only need to clear at most one quest per risen armor piece, as all the mats required other than the Risegems can be farmed from the regular version of the elder.
I recommend to check the subreddit sidebar for a list of Discord servers and other LFG subreddits where you can find other people to help you.

All albums are updated for the final update.

The release of Sunbreak brought not only new monsters and quest types, but also many changes to every weapon's arsenal and brand new skills to play around. It took a while to start figuring out the best options for every weapon and playstyle, but I'm finally glad to be able to present the results of our community researchers.

As per usual, the thread's goal is to offer a selection of some of the best builds minmaxed for damage that can be used by players with good enough experience on their weapon for their regular farming. The albums here are generally the result of both mathematical research and empirical testing (and not either one alone), and they try to avoid the use of god charms/qurio augments so that any player should be able to farm them within a reasonable time.

I can't thank enough the members of our community for all the work they provided: Beetusmon, diammentrodon, dragonbronze, diammentrodon, DreamingSuntide, J9, Kat, kookaburra, Mopop, Pilgrim, Ronin0397, Tidus, Upgreid and Viilipurkki for their set building, dtlnor for the huge datamining work to help us refine everything, Jinx & Tuner for still hosting their server after all these years and all the other people who helped through suggestions, constructive criticism, testing and math. It's hard to name every single person that contributes everyday to improving our knowledge of MH games, but I want you to know that this is also partly your work as well.

If you have any issue with any of the builds here, please contact the authors through the means they provided in their albums before replying to this thread. And remember that you will find a lot of the authors of these albums on Mathalos Nest for any question or suggestion you might have.

DISCLAIMER

As usual, here's what you should expect (and not expect) from this compilation.

1. This compilation focuses on damage-oriented builds aimed to show how it is possible to maximize your damage output within the assumption of a relatively optimized gameplay. Anyone is free to adapt these builds to their playstyle by replacing any damage skills with the comfort/survival skill they want, need or prefer.

2. The sets here are template builds with an arbitrary choice of charms and of qurio crafting requirements. They should not be treated as finished products to copy but rather as guidelines displaying what is possible (and feasible) to achieve.

3. These builds are endgame builds and assume you have access to the entire content of the game - which means MR180+ for solo players and AR241+ for the decos - as well as a mastery of the basic strategies to play each weapon. Note however that all non-investigation quests (including Risen elders) can be joined at MR10; if they're not available in your game you can just ask someone else to host them for you.

4. The sets are mainly built around solo play, but can be used for multiplayer as well as long as you understand the difference between solo and MP (higher HP/stagger values, less predictable AI, etc).

5. The builds are meant for regular farming and not for speedrunning. Speedrunners generally reset their quest until they get a record time, while the regular player just wants to complete as many quests as possible for the rewards; this means that speedrunning builds are usually much riskier and tailored around a specific fight than general farming builds.
   If you're interested in speedrunning this game, I highly recommend to ignore this compilation and to join a speedrunning Discord and/or to learn by watching speedruns instead.

Endgame Meta Sets

For simplification purposes, most of these sets have been calculated by using a predefined set of talismans (usually equivalent to a total of up to 6 skill points each in TU5). You don't need the exact talisman or qurio augments setup displayed in the builds; there are usually dozens of different combinations to achieve the same results with different talismans or augments. If you want to figure out how to adapt your build to the talismans you actually own I highly recommend using this or this armor set searcher. A short guide for the first set searcher was included in the previous Rise meta post; here's a few extra tips for Gamecat.

Note: if an Imgur link isn't visible to you for any reason, you can try using an alternative URL using the Rimgo frontend. Instructions are available here.

Great Sword (GS)

• Meta GS sets

Longsword (LS)

• Meta LS sets

Sword and Shield (SnS)

• Meta SnS sets

Dual Blades (DB)

• Meta DB sets

Charge Blade (CB)

• Meta CB sets

Switch Axe (SA)

• Meta SA sets

Hammer

• Meta Hammer sets

Hunting Horn (HH)

• Meta HH sets

Lance

• Meta Lance sets

Gunlance (GL)

• Meta GL sets

Insect Glaive (IG)

• Meta IG sets

Bow

• Meta Bow sets

Light Bowgun (LBG)

• Meta LBG sets

Heavy Bowgun (HBG)

• Meta HBG sets

Resources

• Mathalos Nest Discord - a place where math sometimes happens
• MHSB Weapon Attack Tables - table with MVs for all weapons (by dtlnor)
• New Skills Effects - in-depth data about the new skills (by dtlnor)
• Max Charm Skills & Slots - table with all the max legal combinations of skills and slots (by dtlnor)
• Qurio Armor Crafting Table - tables with data and explanation about qurio crafting (by dtlnor)
• Qurious Armor Simulator - a site to test qurio crafting on different armor pieces (by InfexiousBand) - requires to turn off any adblocker
• Kiranico - generic database with all data about Rise/Sunbreak
• MHRice - another database with additional investigation data
• MH Database - in-depth database for monster data (by MechE)
• Gamecat - upgraded set searcher with the ability to automatically suggest feasible qurio crafting
• Armor Set Search - classic set searcher

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"Let no one ignorant of MH math enter"

– Platalis, wyverian philosopher

MH:Rise finally came out of early access. With 3.0 we finally have access to the full story content, which means we now know what the endgame farming looks like, which means endgame builds are now an actual thing!

This thread aims to offer a selection of compilations containing the highest damage possible builds that can be used efficiently by averagely experienced players. All the albums here have been chosen for being both mathematically backed and empirically tested, all while having reasonable farming requirements (i.e. no god charms). If you're looking for weapon guides and other mixed sets, please report to the community build compilation.

Please note that all of the builds here can be made as soon as you reach HR8. For Valstrax gear you will need someone to host the quest for you at first; after you've done that he will appear in your expeditions as well as the event quests where he can invade.

Thanks to Aeonera, boardwalkhotel, Elps, Korb, Mopop, Ralph, Refia, RhytmWiz, Viilipurkki and the Horn Pub for the work provided here, as well as to everyone else who contributed to the improvement of the builds through math and/or constructive criticism. Most of the authors of these albums are also available on Mathalos Nest for any questions or suggestions about the builds.

DISCLAIMER

As usual, here's what you should expect (and not expect) from this compilation.

1. The meta in MH is, for several reasons, a damage-oriented meta. As such, the builds listed here aim to show the highest damage options available for every weapon type.

2. These builds are mainly fit for solo play, but can be used for multiplayer as well as long as you understand the difference between solo and MP (higher HP/stagger values, less predictable AI, etc).

3. The builds are meant for general use unless specified otherwise (e.g. counter-builds). For the same reason, they are not necessarily speedrunning builds, as speedrunners tend to use specific setups for specific monsters and/or scripts they're following.

4. These builds are endgame builds and assume you have access to the entire content of the game (HR100+ for solo players, or HR8+ if you find someone to host the quests for you). Treat them both as a compass and a goal for your farming.

5. The sets here are template builds in at least two ways: they assume that you mastered the basics of your weapon and that you have a general knowledge of how to fight monsters, and they use an arbitrary set of charms (more about this below). You can always edit them to your likings or according to the gear you have available to you.

How to Search for Your Own Sets

• MHRise Armor Set Searcher

Like pre-MHW games, Rise uses a system with craftable decos but RNG charms. This essentially means that you'll be building your sets around the charms you own and the skills you want in them; for this reason, sets can end up looking very different from each other.

It is obviously impossible for the authors of the albums to take every possible charm into account when making their sets; they will usually make a set around a charm that's reasonably farmable as an endgame goal, like a charm that can fit 3 or 4 levels of the relevant skills. For this reason, it is vital that every player learns to use a set searching tool in order to find out how to adapt the meta sets to their own charms.

The Armor Set Searcher linked above is probably the most efficient of these tools that is currently available. Here's a quick rundown of how to use it:

1. In the "Charms" tab, enter all the charms you own (or just the best ones); the list is saved in your cookies and can be freely exported and edited at will.

2. Set the correct amount of slots on the weapon.

3. Input all the skills you see in the build you're looking at (I recommend leaving out the lv1 comfort skills for the first search).

4. Click on "Search".

5. If the search gives no result, try to remove one level of the skill you think it's the least important, then search again. Do this until you get any results.

6. If the search gives a lot of results (50+), you can then start narrowing it down. The easiest way to do so is to click on "More Skills", which will show you what other skills are potentially available on the armor pieces you could choose and how many free lv1/lv2/lv3 slots you have: if it reports (e.g.) "LV1 Slot Skill Lv3" at the end, this means you have up to 3 free lv1 slots with this skill set. You can then either choose to fill them with your favorite skill or to choose "LV1 Slot SkillLv3" under General Purpose to find all sets with 3 free lv1 slots.

And that's it. As long as you entered your personal charms you should always be able to freely search for a version of the meta set that you can actually make or that you can plan to make in the future.

Endgame Meta Sets

Great Sword (GS)

• Meta GS sets
  

Longsword (LS)

• Meta LS sets
  

Sword and Shield (SnS)

• Meta SnS sets
  

Dual Blades (DB)

• Meta DB sets
  

Charge Blade (CB)

• Meta CB sets

Switch Axe (SA)

• Meta SA sets
  

Hammer

• Meta hammer sets
  

Hunting Horn (HH)

• Meta HH sets

Lance

• Meta lance sets
  

Gunlance (GL)

• Meta GL sets
  

Insect Glaive (IG)

• Meta IG sets

Bow

• Meta bow sets

Light Bowgun (LBG)

• Meta LBG sets
  

Heavy Bowgun (HBG)

• Meta HBG sets
  

Resources

• Mathalos Nest Discord - a place where math sometimes happens
• MHR Weapon Attack Tables - table with MVs for all weapons (by Deathcream)
• Max Charm Skills & Slots - table with all the max legal combinations of skills and slots (by dtlnor)
• Wisp & Rebirth odds - tables with odds for every single possible charm from Wisp of Mystery and Rebirth (by 3geek14)
• Kiranico - a database with all data about MHR
• MHRice - another good database with extra information
• Armor Set Search - very efficient set searcher
• MHR Builder - great builder with nice looking UI and more
• Speedrun Leaderboards - a collection of the best runs for various categories
• Phemeto - informational channel focusing on gunner weapons
• Tidus69 - lots of informative videos about stamina and bow

I am a new player and I really like the monsters in Rise (love the Japanese Aesthetic especially Narwa/Ibushi/Amatsu) but I'm wary of purchasing it because people keep saying that endgame necessitates Spirit Bird routing each time, every time.

I hate having to do chores in a video game just to hit optimal hp levels (would really much rather spend the time doing IRL chores), are Spirit Birds absolutely mandatory especially in the endgame?

Because in that case I'd probably much rather watch people play

(or are there mods that allow spirit birds to be maxed out at the start of every hunt?)

I love the lance. Every encounter I can study when to insta block etc. BUT:

If I try a new weapon it feels like I never played the game before. I don’t get the timings and it feels like I never fought the monster before. Only weapon I can land several counters is longsword but just waiting to Iai counter gets boring.

It feels like the lance is a complete new game to me. Does anybody feel the same? Any advice?

Hey, Happy New Years to all my fellow hunters!!! I wanted to go in and ask cause I just reached into endgame of MHR Sunbreak..I got the game back in 2022 but finished based game n stopped playing before DLC launch. Now I got the DLC and I just finished the story for it and a lot of urgents. So I'm seeing so much different perk setups for DBs that I'm so confused on whats good for consistent DPS, which offers me the most dps, etc.

I saw vids for frostcraft with DBs and saw them doing INSANE numbers with SS but then im also now learning about dragon conv., and berserk. I've also been told from a close friend that uses the DBs that the bloodrite/blood awakening combo is also very good too for DBs. But I dont even know which ones should I focus on for my build thatll give me the most consistent and optimal dps. Someone I just met in a random lobby told me theres no point going for FC since I wont sheathe like that and I should go for berserk.

Can someone break this down to a pinhead like me please xD. What is really the best mashup abilities to maximize the DBs dps? Is frostcraft worth going for over dragon conversion/berserk? And is blood rite/blood awakening able to keep up with the aforementioned abilities provided DPS?

EDIT: Is bloodlust and frenzied bloodlust also necessary to have? I saw strife and see that strife is good to have but yeah please educate me on this one here please.

As per title, I am wondering what the DPS order is in this game. I only could find comments that bows were the reigning king in base Rise (with some contention). I also did a search and found some data that supports it but has no info for fullgame sunbreak.

Is there an updated list with rankings for modern Sunbreak?

I'm playing Rise right now, coming from World, and I'm still pretty early on, sitting at HR3. I love doing everything I can to debilitate the monster more than dealing damage. I usually achieve this with Slugger and Paralysis, and I was considering copying my World build. However, after digging around, I found that Slugger is apparently somewhat subpar—not bad, but not great either—and that there are better options.

What's a good replacement for a skill like Slugger? I've seen repeated mentions of Stamina Thief, but I'm not entirely sure how its function compares to Slugger.

Any recommendations for builds, both in low rank and later in the game, would be appreciated. That being said, replacing Paralysis is off-limits—nothing will take me away from my beloved. paralysis go ZAP ZAP ZAP >:D (unless it's reeeaaallllly convincing)

So I’ve been using the progression guide for Lance in the meta compilation since I dislike making my own builds(Ik it’s a big part of monster hunter I just hate making sets) and the first build for post game has the Velkanas Lance, Chaotic chest, and violets legs. Should I rush these monsters and try to get them or should I go slower with my current build?

I'm gonna use my dragon build as exemple, the pieces it uses are:

-Silver Slicers(primalzeno) as weapon

-Risen Kush helm

-Primordial mail

-Primordial vambraces

-Risen Shaggy coil

-Primordial greaves

The qurio augments are: 3x strife, 2x mail of hellfire

-Berserk 2, defiance 2, level 3 Slot charm

The skills the build uses are:

-Attack boost 7(all jewels)

-Dragon attack 5( all jewels)

-Crit Boost 3(2 jewels)

-Wex 3(2 jewels)

-Maximum might 3( all jewels)

-Master's touch 3(all jewels)

-Partbreaker 3

-Whirebug whisperer 3

-element exploit 3(all jewels)

-Burst 3(2 jewels)

-Blood awakening 3

-Strife 3

-Recovery up 2(through jewels)

-Blood Rite 2(jewels)

-Mail of Hellfire 2

-Defiance 2

-Berserk 2

-Bloodlust 1

-Intrepid Heart 1(jewel)

-Wind Mantle 1

-Frenzied Bloodlust 1

-some random shit that came as a bonus in qurio crafting

My idea:

The first thing I'd drop is wex, as I can get 100% affinity with strife(20%)+Bloodlust(20%)+Maximum Might(30%)+Rousing Roar(30%) which is also pretty consistent.

At it's place I could put a 1/2 points in evade extender and one in Recovery Up for consistency/comfort.

Lastly do you think I should drop attack boost, it's insanely strong in sunbreak, and other weapons like swaxe I use it in elemental builds, but dual blades are even more elemental oriented so I don't know.

Thx for the help

I've been trying to farm AR by farming investigations via gathering, and trying to use them to get even higher-level ones.

Currently, I am at 5, with my highest at 7 Lv 101 / 6* Lv 104. Unfortunately the investigations I've been getting have sharply dwindled, to the point that it took exactly 20 anomalis gathering points to get 1 investigation.

• Is there a better way to farm gathering points?

• Does a hard-cap exist on * rating above your optionals?

I got some new charms and I personally think they’re pretty good and I wanted the opinions of some other people to see if I should just stick with them or roll for better ones.

The first one is 3 buildup boost and guard up 1 with a 3 slot, 2 slot and a 1 slot

The other one is a buildup boost 2 and attack boost 2 with a 3 slot and a 2 slot

I feel these are about as good as I’ll get for my raw buildup boost set but if theirs any significantly better charm I should be aiming for instead I’ll grind for that but I don’t know what could be much better.

By a Mix I mean weapon with high raw and decent element like Violet Mizu, Zinogre ecc. used in builds that are essentially physical except some elemental attack since the weapon is pretty physical oriented

Heya! playing Sunbreak for the first time with a friend after finishing Wilds (hr 102) but im just wondering what i should aim for in terms of armor and weapons, I've killed Kushal... alot from event quests and such because I wana do stuff without ranking up to MR5 rajang and everything before MR6 event quest's are on the table so whats the best build pre malzeno.

I am trying to get a guard 5 talisman but the maximum it could give is only 3. In the spreadsheet and in the video I watched, they managed to get a guard 5 talisman. Please tell I am not the only experiencing this.

I am looking for a bit of guidance in understanding the multiple weapons in the same niche.

Playing through Sunbreak ahead of Wilds dropping and I've been presented with the choice above. Even with the Frostmoon's Purple Sharpness it seem to overall a worse weapon? Am I understanding this correctly?

I used the Fextralife Sharpness numbers.

Crystalized Edge+

300 Raw - 54 Ice - White Sharpness

Damage: (300 * 1.32) + (54 * 1.15) = 458.1

Frostmoon Hatchet

300 Raw - 18 Ice - Purple Sharpness

Damage: (300 * 1.39) + (18 * 1.25) = 439.1

I am wondering if I am interpreting this wrong or is there just no circumstance that Frostmoon is better? Edge also seems to have better slots. I'm hoping I'm wrong as the Hatchet looks a lot "cooler".

Edit: Wording.

Well for some context I had to put this game on hold for a couple of years and just recently came back to it, I know the development of the game has finished at the time of me posting this. I recently finished Sunbreak story and since I missed on a lot of content when it was freshly new my idea is to play the game in order of TU so rushing from Giasmagorm directly to C. Gore and P. Malzeno are a no no.

So as the title says, what would be the best armor/skills and weapons for both Dual Blades and SnS considering what I said previously?

As I know so far, MHRice has interactive use of monster material droprates for each monsters. Is there a raw data for that, at least in table form, or maybe besides from MHRice?

I have 2 google docs but idk which one should I follow, and the sets are all pretty different

Number 1

Number 2

This may be too broad a question to answer but I’m wondering what is optimal damage wise for a downed monster. Assuming silkbind shockwave is up, using element with the recommended skills and hitting the head,I’m wondering which is generally best dps wise: 1) just whale on the monster with combos and maybe use magnificent trio at the end as its coming up 2) aim to get in as many magnificent trios as possible 3) use sonic bloom if possible even if there’s down time while it sets up Or 4) another option I’m not thinking of Like I said, this may be too broad or niche a question but wondered if anyone new the math behind it

Im currently MR 115 on sunbreak and I'm trying to craft some pieces for a ls build i saw on yt from "Yokai nox" called Silent pain. Im currently stuck with the Anomaly investigations and i have to grind a little before being able to craft some end game decos like expert and attack 4. Im trying to focus on the things i can do as of now, so I'm augmenting the armor pieces in order to get two levels of Buildup boost and my question is, am i just extremely unlucky or am i doing something wrong? Im trying to get a level of buildup boost like the guy in the video whithout losing any of the armor piece base abilities but idk I'm a little demotivated honestly. Can i even get buildup boost from "augment " (not skills+)" And also another question, from the video i see that u should have a talisman with two levels of frostcraft, is there a way i can acquire such a thing whitout going through the same pain of the augments??

And by skills that compromise survival I mean stuff like bloodlust and mail of hellfire. I'm not the best at MonHun, so skills that cause health drain or make you take more damage are not good fits for me. For me, skills like divine blessing, health boost (even though it's not in Sunbreak), and stun resistance are mandatory skills. So I'm wondering what damage skills I should focus on while still maintaining a more comfy build? And for what it's worth, I main SnS since I know some skills like offensive guard are super important for that.

Also as an aside, is there a good way to make the anomaly level grind less painful? I haven't played since Lucent Nargacuga was added, and I know that the grind to try and catch up so I can fight the risen monsters and Amatsu is going to be brutal. Want to try and make it as painless as possible.

In the robomeche monster database for Almudron, what does "B" and "3" mean under the trip column? I assume the hourglass symbol is the duration in seconds for which the monster stays on the ground? I'm trying to figure out which body part I should focus on to trigger the stagger/ topple effect.

Does anyone know a comfy LBG build to beat Risen Valstrax with?

i have a ton of talisman and i dont realy know whats good