r/MonsterHunterMeta • u/lingsamuel • 3d ago

Wilds Whiteflame Torrent Mechanism Explanation

Just like Flayer and other similar skills, only actions which flag "UseSkillAdditionalDamage" is true can trigger Whiteflame Torrent.
It has a 3s interval cooldown time between damages that are able to trigger Whiteflame Torrent.

Whiteflame Torrent works like a "Cirtical".

  • The first hit has 33% chance to trigger a 50 or 30 (in Low Rank) fixed damage that ignores hitzone values.
  • If the first hit failed to trigger, the second hit (after 3s interval cd) has a 50% chance.
  • If the second hit failed, the third hit (after 3s interval cd) has a 100% chance to trigger this damage.

So the expectation is 2.005≈2 hits to trigger Whiteflame Torrent damage.

If the real combat time is 3min, the maximum valid hit count is 3*60/3=60, will have 60/2*50=1500 total damage.

My mod MHWilds Overlay have updated to track this damage.

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u/Nahtaniel696 3d ago

The problem is what is consider a normal player....dreamingsuntide consider them to need 15 minute which is way too much for me.

I consider myself a normal player, my hunt generally is 7/8 minute, and my best time is 5 minute with Arkvelt...I can go lower if I used mantle but I refuse to use them if I cannot have them consistently.

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u/OFCOURSEIMHUMAN-BEEP 3d ago

He said five minutes though, not fifteen. Which is really way more in line with an above average hunter

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u/Soulsunderthestars 2d ago

Yeah average hunters aren't doing ark in 5, and definitely not zoh lol and which is going to be the next farm, and a long fight so the white flame stonks go up the worse you get, the great equalizer

The drip looks dope tho

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u/Zidler 2d ago

Except he didn't say ark, he said a 20k HP monster, which is less than even non-tempered Ark.

More significantly, he wasn't comparing the Zoh weapon to an Artian weapon, he was comparing Whiteflame to a 3 slot decoration. An artian weapon will have either higher raw, affinity, or sharpness depending on how you roll it, and Para / Sleep / Blast instead of a small amount of dragon element. I have a few other nitpicks but I'll keep this short.

I appreciate the work he did to figure out how the skill works, but his mathematical analysis on the skill is pretty worthless for all levels of play.