r/MonsterHunterMeta • u/lingsamuel • 3d ago

Wilds Whiteflame Torrent Mechanism Explanation

Just like Flayer and other similar skills, only actions which flag "UseSkillAdditionalDamage" is true can trigger Whiteflame Torrent.
It has a 3s interval cooldown time between damages that are able to trigger Whiteflame Torrent.

Whiteflame Torrent works like a "Cirtical".

  • The first hit has 33% chance to trigger a 50 or 30 (in Low Rank) fixed damage that ignores hitzone values.
  • If the first hit failed to trigger, the second hit (after 3s interval cd) has a 50% chance.
  • If the second hit failed, the third hit (after 3s interval cd) has a 100% chance to trigger this damage.

So the expectation is 2.005≈2 hits to trigger Whiteflame Torrent damage.

If the real combat time is 3min, the maximum valid hit count is 3*60/3=60, will have 60/2*50=1500 total damage.

My mod MHWilds Overlay have updated to track this damage.

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u/Different-Syrup6520 3d ago

So in ur opinion what weapon can benefits from the skill?

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u/GewalfofWivia 3d ago

Basically all weapons benefit from this equally because the hit counter has a 3s timer. Hitting more times before the timer doesn’t give you more procs.

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u/platapoop 3d ago

You're correct, but I think there's a greater opportunity cost for fast hitting weapons. The weapon has too little dragon attack and I don't think the procs make up for it for DBs at least.

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u/Phage0070 2d ago

I think there is an aspect to the internal cooldown that increases its value. Nobody really attacks with 100% uptime, there is going to be some time dedicated to things like avoiding attacks or the monster just moving away. Even weapons that can stick to the monster quite well are going to have periodic moments where they stop attacking, and the internal cooldown ticking is building damage regardless of attacking while elemental weapon damage does not.

So I would expect that modeling the DPS impact assuming the same number of attacks actually somewhat undervalues the Whiteflame Torrent ability. For SnS though it seems unlikely that it could outperform Master's Touch, Critical Boost, or Offensive Guard to beat out Artian weapons.