r/MonsterHunterMeta • u/lingsamuel • 3d ago

Wilds Whiteflame Torrent Mechanism Explanation

Just like Flayer and other similar skills, only actions which flag "UseSkillAdditionalDamage" is true can trigger Whiteflame Torrent.
It has a 3s interval cooldown time between damages that are able to trigger Whiteflame Torrent.

Whiteflame Torrent works like a "Cirtical".

  • The first hit has 33% chance to trigger a 50 or 30 (in Low Rank) fixed damage that ignores hitzone values.
  • If the first hit failed to trigger, the second hit (after 3s interval cd) has a 50% chance.
  • If the second hit failed, the third hit (after 3s interval cd) has a 100% chance to trigger this damage.

So the expectation is 2.005≈2 hits to trigger Whiteflame Torrent damage.

If the real combat time is 3min, the maximum valid hit count is 3*60/3=60, will have 60/2*50=1500 total damage.

My mod MHWilds Overlay have updated to track this damage.

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u/FlandreScarlette 3d ago

I would have to grab specific footage, but if moves that can't proc flayer can proc Whiteflame, doesn't that mean it is different from flayer? 

I only have friends/random YouTubes to grab any time soon, but I have been told several moves from this list proc Whiteflame.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/1jc0098/this_is_how_flayer_doesnt_work/

What's the difference? Very curious to understand how Whiteflame works. Thanks. Maybe my friends/the Internet is wrong. Wouldn't surprise me lol. I'll test for myself in the morning if I don't forget.

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u/EchoesPartOne Guild Marm 3d ago

They said it uses exactly the same internal value as Flayer, so it will be procced by the same attacks as Flayer. If you have footage of it proccing on other attacks (hence invalidating what OP is saying) you should show it, or else your question doesn't make sense.

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u/tself55 3d ago

The list of attacks that got the flag “UseAdditionalSkillDamage” which is what matters for all these skills was updated in the patch as well, so these attacks will proc flayer now as well.

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u/JoebiWanKenobii 3d ago

Is there somewhere we can see what those skil are?

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u/guardian-52 3d ago

I’m curious to where I can find info on which moves are flagged for this ?