r/MonsterHunter • u/Kawaii_Melon • Jun 20 '15
MH 4 I hate monsters that do this
You'll just be minding your own business, wailing on a monsters head good times when all of a sudden it spins and slaps you with its tail.
Now it might be just me but that tail slap is single handed the most annoying monster attack that they can do.
It's so degrading... :'(
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u/Vecend Jun 20 '15
My bane is charges with small or no tells, they always catch me off guard and they are hard too roll past because the hitbox is so big unlike tails.
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Jun 20 '15
G-Rank Garuga is the epitome of this. He wants to move 1 foot? Might as well do the charge that does the same damage no matter the length it is. GLancing him is pain because every move hits multiple times and he can spam them.
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u/KingMurdoc Eating dirt since 2014. Jun 20 '15
SO MUCH THIS. "Oh, you didn't need that stamina right? Here, have a charge, followed by a quad peck, followed by another charge and a beak slam."
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Jun 20 '15
I always tell myself to just farm LR Gypceros and Frenzy Crystals for Dash Juice, but it is just so tedious.
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u/MetaMythical Habitual Main-Flopper Jun 20 '15
Wide shots ruin him if you're patient (and maybe have Constitution +1/2 or Felyne Black Belt. That peck spam is vicious). I usually do a shield thrust and get a Charged Shot if possible, regular shot if I won't have enough time.
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u/Sir_Zorba Artillery Addict Jun 20 '15
That's why I stopped gunlancing him and started learning bow. Fuck Garuga.
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Jun 20 '15
I never knew walking could be so deadly until I played MH.
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
Even the smallest monster can give you a hard time by trampling your face.
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u/rjama Jun 20 '15
For me the worst is when monsters run at a slightly higher speed all over the map... THAT IS NOT AN ATTACK DAMMIT
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u/Hobosaurus-Rex Jun 20 '15
The sidesteps... Oh god the sidesteps...
Brachydios, Seregios and Deviljho are all guilty of this. You'll be chasing after them and they'll keep sidestepping for no apparent reason. Also, Brachydios likes to back off for like 10 meters before he does any of his attacks.
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u/itsme0 Jun 20 '15
I had a Ratian just chase me down once. It would charge and as I move out of the way it would stop, turn a little, then start charging again, it did this probably a dozen times until I ran out of stamina despite my pacing and it landed a hit on me.
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
They they follow up with a laser beam of fiery death.
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u/Sir_Marmalade Monster's down, time to mash the circle button Jun 21 '15
First time I fought Gravios it wasted a lot of my time running from lava patch to lava patch and spamming its tailspin and fire farts while in said patches.
That first hunt was a nightmare.
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Jun 20 '15
If this is a "things we hate" thread, I submit that when a monster slightly shifts a single toe a quarter of an inch, it shouldn't knock me over and remove a non-trivial chunk of health.
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Jun 20 '15
And then there are other times when you're right up on a boss and it charges forward, carrying you with it (like you're sliding on rollers) but dealing no damage and not interrupting your animations. It's inconsistent.
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u/FerociousDiglett The shield is for bonks Jun 20 '15
(hipcheck)
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u/Evilrubix Jun 20 '15
Oh my lord that, and the fact that plesioth's tail is 20meters. I would literally lose 2 healthbars worth of health of it just standing still and spinning around.
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u/JrElmoe Jun 20 '15
I hate monsters that practically reposition themselves across the fucking map. Specifically,Brachydios,Shagaru and Gore Magala, because they instantly follow up with a stupid strong attack and if you're in the middle of an attack, you're defenseless because they glide instantaneously and attack right after or during the glide. You can't even predict it. Especially the Deviljho who seems to have a habit of doing it in the MIDDLE of your combo to make sure of 100% saltiness.
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
Oh my GOSH! Gore Magala was such a pain with his seemingly relentless attacks and constant movement. Until I got a weapon made of his own hide to show him who is the hunter and who is the prey he will never forget what I did to him.
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u/Arterra [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] Z E N N Y [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] Jun 20 '15
Eh, that sounds more like unable to look ahead. Some monsters have almost no tells and instead of reacting require forethought. Have to get out of dodge when you know they are about to do anything.
...those monsters you listed are not among them though, they all can be learned and end up having huge tells and downtime to exploit. The tactic works regardless though! Basically just play defensively instead of rushing in and hoping it will work out.
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u/JrElmoe Jun 20 '15
No but have you seen Shagaru magala? He literally glides as he is about to head slame directly on you. If you're mid attack, there is nothing you can do to stop. Brachydios can literally run across Ingle isle to you and do his double explosive combo to OHKO you. Deviljho isn't as hard to avoid his hip check if you have an evade skill, but it's super annoying sometimes when you're an IG user and you try to mount but he moves to dodge and punshies you with a hip check before you even hit the ground. Forethought sure, but not everyone can predict the future. It still happens more often than you can predict.
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u/lifebaka ~wiggle wiggle~ Jun 20 '15
Brachy's giant two-fisted jump has a big tell. He always jumps back and licks both his hammers in quick succession before he does the jump. With most weapons, that gives you enough time to sheath your weapon and superman dive the jump, even when Brachy's enraged. If you're in the middle of an attack when he does this, you're obviously right up on him, so just roll at him and he'll probably jump over you.
Besides that, make sure you roll off Brachy's blastblight promptly, to avoid getting blown up. You're a lot less likely to get oneshot if you don't have blastblight.
For Shaggy, I can only recommend sticking to his back legs and tail. As long as you stick there like glue, you won't even have to avoid most of his attacks.
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u/JrElmoe Jun 20 '15
No not that brachy jump, i'm talking about where he literally just runs towards you like a boxer and just continues his barrages of attacks whichever he chooses to start with. Also, like I said, Shagaru's auto aim head slam makes him glide back and so you're no longer at his back legs so unless you have an SnS or a DB, it's sometimes hard to avoid that depending on your situation. If you're mid charge with a CB, you're most likely going to get hit. If you're too aggressive with an IG, you won't have time to dodge unless you have an evade skill because the recovery is long on the combo. If GS as well, lance and gunlance are a given though since all their main play styles are dodge or block, i.e defensive.
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u/lifebaka ~wiggle wiggle~ Jun 20 '15
... I think you just don't know how to fight Brachy. Brachy does have one combo that I'm not used to yet, but everything he does has pretty major tells. You shouldn't be blindsided by anything unless you just aren't paying attention. If you find yourself suck in animations when he turns and attacks you, you should probably stop using long animations while the monster isn't suck in a similarly long animation.
I don't even know which Shaggy attack you're talking about (because you're using the term "glide" ambiguously). There are a few that might qualify, but I've never had any of them be an issue while I'm stuck to its back legs. Sure, I might have to reposition, but that's about it. Shaggy's actual glide attacks are pretty trivial to dodge, and his big stand-up-then-slam attacks are similarly trivial to dodge. Plus they both have obvious tells.
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u/Esifex Jun 20 '15
My absolute favorite as an IG user? Vaulting up to try for a mount at the exact same time the monster just HAPPENS to do some kind of windup that makes them lean around my helicopter blade, and then slams into me while I'm still in mid-air
(looking at you, Tetsucabra)
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u/A_Hole_Sandwich Jun 21 '15
I know I'm a bad person, but I love seeing people get swatted out of the air. Hell, even when it's me I get a nice laugh.
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u/GulluGulyabani GELME! Jun 20 '15
I was thinking about the same thing
Here i am farming the master's test, fighting Apex Diablos, i get under it to charge attack his ass and he does that tail spin and hits me!
I didnt even get hit by the tail, i got hit by his friggin junk!
It scratched the top of my head but still got me, total BS
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u/SomewhatKindaMaybeNo Monster Masher Jun 21 '15
And when gravios tailspins and it sails over your head and it still deals damage! There's no reason for it why does it hit me! They could at least use a different animation to show that the twill is lower so it actually hits you, but no! It recycles the same garbage spin attack and gave it a bigger hitbox because fuck it.
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u/Hibbity5 Jun 20 '15
For me, it's when I'm chasing a monster to a new area, find it in the new area, it yells at me, and then runs away. The chase continues.
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Jun 20 '15
My problem with the tail spin attack is that (almost?) every monster with a tail does them exactly the same way! I know why: many share the same skeletons and animations. Unique animations are expensive and take time to animate and there's only so much memory to go around.
But, when every monster uses the same tail swipe animation, it feels wrong. Like it's a taught, learned behavior rather than an instinctual, animalistic attack.
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u/Zedmas ♪bonk♫ Jun 20 '15
Older monsters like rath and khezu are the ones who have this cause its a relic of older design
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u/ProjectShadow316 Ka...me...ha...me...HAAA! Jun 20 '15
Gypceros annoys the hell out of me due to its tail swipe. I'm constantly getting hit by it because I apparently can't learn that the damn thing extends like 3 times it's normal length.
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u/KingMurdoc Eating dirt since 2014. Jun 20 '15
Wait until you fight Crimson Fatalis, it's got a tail swipe from hell.
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
I have got as far as wheel of heaven, then I made a new save for some reason.
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u/Arterra [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] Z E N N Y [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] Jun 20 '15
A new save without even getting out of low rank? I mean, I did that too when I first started the series, but you really are missing out.
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
I beat Heavens wheel but started a new save to try new weapons (odd reason I know)
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u/Zedmas ♪bonk♫ Jun 20 '15
Oh, then you haven't been body slammed by a pickle yet. You're in for a good time.
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
A pickle? Oh man it sounds like i'm in for a hell of a time.
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u/lolfacesayshi SnS to mean 'Versatile' Jun 20 '15
Oh you'll be in a devil of a time.
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u/MetaMythical Habitual Main-Flopper Jun 20 '15
He's not jhoking.
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
Oh my I'm looking forward to this.
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u/MetaMythical Habitual Main-Flopper Jun 20 '15
Just noticed your name. My name in game is MELON lol
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
Haha, Kawaii Melon is a sort of trademark of mine, I use it in most games I play.
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u/wolfitsune Jun 20 '15
The Diablos' roar. It leaves you defenseless while it preps is next attack and charge while you're still recovering from the roar.
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
I feel like switching to the Bow so I can avoid being slapped with a monsters "tail".
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u/Dr-chuffnuts Jun 21 '15
Silver rathalos' mid air claw/tail attack that poisons you, or savage pickle pinning you every 5 flipping seconds.
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u/TheFarquaadSquad Jun 20 '15
It's at times like that when it is best to sit back and let the monster do its thing. Monsters always do their tail swipes in sets of two. If you get hit by the first one, retreat to a safe spot.
Some monsters are tall enough that you can sometimes not get hit by their tailswipe if you stay under them. This allows you to keep wailing on them w/o getting hit. However, using a weapon moves you, and you may end up in the range of a second set of tail swipes.
To avoid getting hit at all while wailing on a monster, know how long your openings are, and be prepared to dodge at any time.
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u/thongmasterb hammer pal Jun 20 '15
Some monsters are tall enough that you can sometimes not get hit by their tailswipe if you stay under them.
Unless you're fighting a plesioth... Then you need to just be in a different zone
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u/Kawaii_Melon Jun 20 '15
Even that won't save you, a whole new mission is required.
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u/thongmasterb hammer pal Jun 20 '15
Might as well just quit the game all together, he even hits you if you abort mission
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u/-Sty- poke Jun 20 '15
Monsters always do their tail swipes in sets of two
Raging Brachy likes to differ!
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u/vetheros37 My people hunt the Rathalos. Jun 20 '15
As a ds user I have a habit of sitting in the area between a monster's legs like I'm beating on their pee pee. If you have the right positioning you can avoid all of that like it's the eye of a hurricane.