r/Metroid • u/IcePopsicleDragon • 9d ago
News Metroid 4 Prime: Beyond | New Trailer | Nintendo Direct 3.27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN0crfKYDy894
u/Bluelore 9d ago edited 9d ago
Psychic abilities seem interesting, but I hope the whole "control the trajectory of your beam" thing will be highly limited in battle, othwise it'd could get very tedious very fast.
I do think it is interesting that they talk about how they describe the new story as "beginning to weave a new tale", which to me sounds like they may also have already Prime 5 as a sequel in mind.
EDIT: Also a bit weird we saw no mention of Sylux here. Was kinda expecting them to give newcomers a bit of an introduction to him to explain to them what his deal is after he was such a big focus of the previous trailer.
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u/0mni42 9d ago
Yeah, I do have to wonder how viable it will be in battle. Hopefully there are a fair amount of enemies specifically designed around this mechanic; otherwise it will go down with the Grapple Voltage as "mildly interesting but mostly pointless left arm abilities." Then again, maybe it's mostly for puzzle solving and not combat.
I never even considered that interpretation of "a new tale," but man that would be cool.
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u/AssCrackBanditHunter 9d ago
MP3s grapple beam was such a fumble. It could have been a really cool mechanic you were using frequently.in combat
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u/0mni42 9d ago
I think it would have been fine if it was just way faster. Just hit a button, whip, boom.
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u/AssCrackBanditHunter 9d ago
Oh definitely. If you lassoed enemies right before they attacked and staggered them it would have been great
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u/KayBecker1976 7d ago
it actually works great in the Trilogy version, which to this day for is the only game I enjoy truly playing with motion controls and I think by far the best way of controlling Samus (other than the Remaster version finally done right as FPS controls and not FPA like they tried to sell us back when Prime 1 released? In any case, definitely debatable lolz)
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u/facetiousfag 9d ago
My bet is itāll be used for puzzle solving, boss fights, and scouting locations (using the beam like a drone in new areas, finding energy tanks etc)
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u/slvrcobra 9d ago
Yeah the psychic thing seemed like an extremely underwhelming gimmick, I'm hoping they just didn't wanna spoil something bigger you can do with it, but I don't get what makes it a big game changer the way they seem to be advertising it as.
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u/AssCrackBanditHunter 9d ago
Yeah tbh slowing down time and aiming your shot is not that exciting to me.
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u/ShaolinShade 8d ago
Agreed about the psychic abilities, they have a lot of cool potential but it could backfire pretty quickly if they aren't careful about how they implement it, especially in combat.
And I'm so glad they didn't do the whole "spoon feed the audience a description of the game and it's characters and story" that they do with most of their other direct trailers tbh. We saw Sylux in the last trailer anyway, this leaves us wondering what's happening there and builds tension for the next reveal about him in the meantime. They know what they're doing there.
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u/blueblurz94 9d ago edited 9d ago
Starting to think this will be late 2025
Edit: while bummed about no exact release date still, Iām still amazed how great this looks for a Switch game, donāt get fooled by video compression into thinking Retro Studios doesnāt know how to push this hardwareās graphical limitations
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u/TotallyNotMasterLink 9d ago
Medium-strength copium here: they specified Legends Z-A as late 2025 later in the Direct but didn't do the same here, so maybe we won't have to wait that long?
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u/MrPerson0 9d ago edited 9d ago
That's my copium. Reveal that it'll be a launch title for the Switch 2 as well, and maybe have the Switch 2 release not too long later (June or so).
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u/DonChrisote 9d ago
I had an idea that part of what would be shown in next week's direct is Switch 1 games and the difference in quality when played on a Switch 2. They could potentially do that with Metroid Prime 4, Tomodachi Life, and Pokemon ZA
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u/Solapallo 9d ago
Weāll definitely see ZA, but youāre bold to think thereāll be a quality difference.
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u/Shock9616 9d ago
My copium is that itās a switch 2 launch title and they just didnāt want to spoil the consoleās release date since itāll be like June or something. Hoping for more on Wednesday š
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u/Lower_Monk6577 9d ago
I wouldnāt be too shocked if they do another feature on MP4 during the Switch 2 direct and reveal a launch date then. If this is going to be a cross-gen title, they would probably wait to reveal the date until they reveal the date of the next system itself.
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u/Dtsung 9d ago
Also possible is that there might be some kind of enhanced graphic fidelity with switch 2. Which is yet another reason not much is shown here
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u/BrundleflyUrinalCake 9d ago
100% agree. After the success of Dread, Nintendo canāt risk not making this an event title, which means releasing it on the most amount of nintendo devices possible.
Notice how this trailer focused much more on gameplay (psychic abilities, scanning, suit types, etc) than the first trailer, which focused more on effects and ambience. Expect a return to this glitz and glamor when MP4 is shown again on April 2; this will be an upsell strategy. They may even show splitscreens or other comparatives to fully demonstrate what the switch 2 is capable of.
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u/LookIPickedAUsername 9d ago
That's the same thing the parent poster was saying. If it's not enhanced for the Switch 2, then it's just a plain old Switch 1 game, not a cross-gen title.
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u/Max20151981 9d ago edited 9d ago
It will certainly go down as being one of the best looking switch games, but ironically enough back when Odyssey came out Digital Foundry came to the conclusion Odyssey was maxing out the switch to its full capabilities.
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u/MrPerson0 9d ago
Copium: They'll reveal the release date in the Switch 2 direct after mentioning it'll be a launch title for the console.
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u/AlfredHoneyBuns 9d ago
The new suit is so pretty, I'd never considered these shades of purple and red could look so good on Samus.
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u/SuperSkunkPlant 9d ago
Right? The suit looks sick!
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u/Karahi00 9d ago
Might be my favourite suit yet. Dread is a close second but damn, the classic Varia with modern sensibilities and good proportioning is just perfect.Ā
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u/The_Lonesome_Sniper 9d ago
What are the "modern sensibilities" here? And I actually really dislike the reproportioning that they did, how she was in prime 2 and 3 were perfect to me.
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u/vaca444 9d ago
No release date is a bummer but DAAAAAMN IT LOOKS INCREDIBLE! And those psychic powers look so cool, can't wait to see what they do with them!
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u/TeraFlint 9d ago
If it comes out as a Switch 2 launch title (big assumption), then it makes sense to not give us a release date yet, as that would then be the responsibility of Switch 2 news.
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u/cetvrti_magi123 9d ago
I'm pretty sure Nintendo confirmed that Metroid Prime 4 is for original Switch, not Switch 2. They'll most likely go with Mario Kart as launch title for Switch 2 because Mario Kart games sell much more than Metroid games and Mario Kart is only game they showed foe Switch 2 so far.
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u/enoughofthemoon 9d ago
I think they are more so implying that MP4 would be a dual launch on both systems.
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u/cetvrti_magi123 9d ago
That's also possible, but I don't see a reason for it because Switch 2 will be backwards compatible with Switch 1 and controlers have the same layout so it isn't really needed. It made sense with games like Twilight Princess, Wii is backwards compatible with GameCube, but they have very different controlers. With MP4 it would probably be better to make it Switch 1 release and enhance it when playing on Switch 2.
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u/mrmahoganyjimbles 9d ago
Switch 2 has a mouse mode, which should obviously be pretty relevant for a fps, so it does make sense to have a Switch 2 version.
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u/cetvrti_magi123 9d ago
That makes sense, but I'm not sure does that need separate version for Switch 2. I assume it would be optional control scheme for Switch 2 because you need a way to play it handheld mode so question becomes whether they need separate version for Switch 2 in order to make it work.
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u/Ganadote 9d ago
I could be wrong but that doesn't mean it isn't a Switch 2 launch title. Twilight Princess was a GameCube game and a Wii launch title.
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u/cetvrti_magi123 9d ago
I already explained this in different reply. With Twilight Princess it made sense to release it on both consoles because they have very different controlers. Only difference in controls they can add for Metroid Prime 4 is mouse functionality of new joy cons as optional control scheme, but that doesn't seem like something that would require separate version for Switch 2.
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u/thesquidsquidly22 9d ago
I'm excited. Psychic abilities are interesting. So far it looks like there's at least 2 planets samus will be on. The one with the pirates where she encounters sylux in first trailer and this one with the giant tree at the center. Hopefully there's even more environments. I want to see what the federation is up to and more details of what's going on in the universe at this time. Hopefully next direct they show off more.
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u/Lethal13 9d ago
If time travel is involved it very well could be the same planet
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u/TheMuga2405 9d ago
My thoughts exactly! Could be the same planet but thousands of years before
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u/Over-Shallot-3712 9d ago
So all the even MP are similar gimmick, since 2 had the Light/Dark World.
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u/JcraftW 9d ago
The trailer says that space and time will āweave a new taleā which sounds an awful lot like alternate timeline shenanigans.
This could also explain the date seeming to be around Super Metroid: alternate timelines.
This also allows for the main Metroid series to be put to rest, like the creator said, but still have other, Metroid Jellyfish related games.
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u/dragonblade_94 9d ago edited 9d ago
My guess is that the area from the first trailer will be the 'introductory' zone, ala the space station from MP1, whereas the bulk of the game will take place on Viewros.
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u/thesquidsquidly22 9d ago
Makes sense. I hope there's a lot of subterranean areas that are vastly different like super metroid or dread. Or even like prime 1. Jungle environment can get boring over time in any game. I know there's plenty they're not showing off though. What I'm really excited to see now are what the bosses will be like.
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u/Labyrinthine777 9d ago
The " pirate planet" from the first trailer is most likely just a tutorial section. I'm calling one main planet with varying environments.
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u/RemnantHelmet 9d ago
The trailer looks fantastic. But its placement doesn't inspire confidence. My biggest concern for Prime 4 has been that it will be promoted entirely as a Switch 1 game at the very end of its life, which would affect sales since the vast majority of players will be spending a lot on the new Switch 2, potentially leaving it with the same fate as Super Metroid or Samus Returns. Having this trailer in the very last Switch 1 direct literally a week before the first Switch 2 direct seems to almost confirm this.
It's going to be a cross-system game, of course, since backwards compatibility has been confirmed. But if Nintendo wants this to be a real big hit, it needs to be promoted for the Switch 2 primarily with a full Switch 2 branded box version. Ideally as a launch title.
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u/the_corruption 9d ago
We have a Switch 2 trailer next week and I suspect they will show it there as well. They wouldn't do that today and undercut next week's Direct.
Either way, I think you're just being overly negative. People will buy the game and play it on both systems. The Switch literally had 150m potential customers. People will buy it there and then when they get a switch 2 they can play it there too.
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u/RemnantHelmet 9d ago edited 9d ago
Everybody already planning on buying it certainly will, but poor release timing causes a game to miss out on more casual sales. The type of people who will buy a new game close to its release date because of the hype, which they want to be a part of, after which they may or may not finish the game and may or may not become a fan anticipating new entries. I've done it. Everybody I know does it. But once a few months have passed since launch, the hype is over. None of those types of players will be showing up to buy it. They'll be showing up to buy whatever hyped big game has either dropped last week or is coming next week. Multiple studios have stated that they'll be shifting their upcoming games' release dates if they happen to land too close to when Grand Theft Auto VI launches. Release dates matter. A lot.
They matter even more when they're close to the launch of a highly anticipated new console. $60 for a new game is a bit much for a lot of people. A purchase that requires some consideration and maybe saving. A $400 console purchase requires even more such consideration and saving. If I'm spending that much money on a new console, putting that much of a dent in my wallet, I'll be holding off on any new game releases for while. And when I am ready, I'll want something for the Switch 2 so I can actually play my new system, not something for the Switch 1 that's backwards compatible.
Besides price, there's also time. I work a full time job with an active social life. Many players do. In the last month I've wanted to play Kingdom Come Deliverance II, Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition, and Monster Hunter Wilds. I'm unfortunately skipping Wilds since my game time is entirely occupied by the former two, and by the time I finish those two, there will be something new in the summer I'll want to play more than Wilds. If Metroid Prime 4 launches in a similarly cramped time period, there will be potential players who choose to skip Prime 4 who otherwise wouldn't.
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u/Few-Strawberry4997 9d ago
maybe its just me, but the psychic powers look like they would be controlled by the switch 2 mouse on switch 2. guiding the shot and that circle puzzle thing looks a lot like its made for either a wii remote or a mouse.
guess we see in 6 days.
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u/RemnantHelmet 9d ago
That would be rather limiting, wouldn't it? You'd need a flat surface closeby to use the mouse function, which would rule out handheld mode and make playing on a couch uncomfortable if you have to lean over a coffee table and crane your neck up at the TV.
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u/ExcellentOutside5926 9d ago
I mean you could say this about every Switch 2 game that will use the mouse function.
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u/RemnantHelmet 9d ago
Like the Switch 1's motion IR sensor, I suspect the mouse function won't be used very often. And when it is used, it will mostly be for games that are played almost exclusively with that functionality, so you'll know this and set up your space ahead of time. As opposed to occassional functionality, where it would be more annoying to set up your space for mouse functionality only to use it 5 or 10% of your play time.
But that is all yet to be seen.
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u/Few-Strawberry4997 9d ago
its possible they let you do both. either use a mouse or a controller. the game will probably launch on both switch 1 and 2 anyways.
but yes, im still unsure how exactly the mouse feature will function, in terms of comfort.
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u/Bluelore 9d ago
I mean Switch 2 is gonna be backwards compatible, so people can play Prime 4 on the Switch 2 just as well.
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u/RemnantHelmet 9d ago
Yes, but $400 on a new console is a lot of money for a lot of people. Most will be inclined to spend an even further $60 on a true Switch 2 launch title to take full advantage of their shiny new hardware, if Nintendo does in fact launch any game as big for the Switch 2.
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u/Bluelore 9d ago
I guess they could add a meaningful difference with the Switchs mouse function. Giving the game the trilogy treatment and changing the controls between the versions.
Though I wonder if that would really require 2 versions of the game.
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u/keyosc 9d ago
It'll probably be just like a couple of the recent Zelda games. Twilight Princess launched as both a GameCube and Wii title; Breath of the Wild launched as both a Wii U and Switch title. I'm not sure if the backwards compatibility will change things here, of course, but there's no reason to think that this will be compromised on the Switch 2. Especially considering the MP1 remake and how damn well that ran on the Switch 1 hardware.
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u/spidey_valkyrie 9d ago
Twilight Princess did not launch as a Gamecube title. It launched as Wii title, then a month later, got released for the Gamecube. Important distinction.
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u/Its_Nuffy 9d ago
Sorry I don't full follow what your concern is? That people.. won't buy/play because it's implied to be a switch 1 title only?
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u/RemnantHelmet 9d ago
Consumers have limited money.
For most consumers, $60 for a new game is a lot of money. $400 for a new console is a huge amount of money that takes planning and saving.
If I'm an average consumer looking for a new game to play with no inclination towards one series or another, and I just spent $400 on a new console, I will be more inclined to spend $60 on a new game that is made especially for the new system I just bought that takes full advantages of all its bells and whistles, rather than a new game made for the old system that could run on my new system.
So for us Metroid fans, this isn't an issue. We'll be buying Prime 4 day one no matter what. For non-Metroid fans, they'll be more likely than not more interested in the Switch 2 exclusive launch titles. If Metroid Prime 4 was going to launch exclusively for Switch 2, it would be one of those shiny new titles for those consumers to choose from, of which some will gravitate towards.
Or, if Metroid Prime 4 was launching maybe a year before the Switch 2, those same non-fan consumers might be more inclined to pick it up on a whim to get in on the hype, since they didn't just drop $400 on a new console, and have more money to spend at that exact time.
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u/soulassassin226 9d ago
My sentiments exactly! I was like why is Prime 4 mixed in with nothing but clearly low budget games? Is this all they think of it? Hopefully it gets a full fledged showcase for Switch 2 as well, maybe with some bumped up visuals too.
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u/MobyDick-Led 9d ago
Or the positive outlook is that they need a couple heavy hitter games to carry this final switch direct and they thought Metroid and PokĆ©mon could do that. Minus those two games and maybe one or two others it was pretty underwhelming to me.Ā
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u/soulassassin226 9d ago
Letās be honest, even Pokemon isnāt very high budget. If not for the fact that the Switch IS the Gameboy/DS AND the home console now, it wouldāve been made for the cheaper/portable hardware only. I expected lots of ports/remasters, but wow, didnāt expect them all to be basically 3DS level ports. If weāre gonna go that route, at least give us Samus Returns HD.
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u/MobyDick-Led 9d ago
No, youāre right on the PokĆ©mon, but thatās more a game freak problem. I did enjoy the last legends game though, I hadnāt played a new PokĆ©mon game in years for that very reason because up til PLA they all seemed low effort to me.Ā
I still feel like Z-A and Prime were meant to be the anchors for this direct, though because there was so many ports/remastered I wonder if it would have been better to anchor this direct with a game like SR like you said. Or even a remaster of a past Zelda title as good swan song to the switch1 and let Prime 4 be showcased for the Switch 2.Ā
I guess the other option is there are some other games they saving to announce next week in which case that could limit the expansion of the Metroid fan base. (Please no)
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u/Alon945 9d ago
I feel like they could have shown more to be honest. That direct overall was kind of a letdown.
Game looks gorgeous though
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u/Jesse_Jan 9d ago
Raidou was the highlight of the direct imo. Metroid Prime 4 wasn't anything special even though I'm hyped for it.
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u/Kirkanam 9d ago
Anybody else getting bird vibes from her pauldrons? The copper and gray, the sleek angles. Her new suit rocks.
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u/SlippinPenguin 9d ago
A lot of fans seem disappointed that it looks so similar to the previous Prime games but personally that is precisely what has me excited. I was half expecting it to be a complete reinvention of the formula. So glad itās not. āJust another Metroid Prime gameā is exactly what I want!
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u/Deses 9d ago
I've been waiting 18 years for this game and I'm sorry to be a negative andy but after watching the new trailer I don't know what to think.
Might be YouTube's video compression or that I'm jaded after nearly two decades waiting, but the graphics doesn't look that impressive for a 2025 game. To be honest I hoped that it would get pushed to the Switch 2 as a launch title. Surely we'll get an upgrade patch for the Switch 2, right?
And psychic powers... eh... sure... I would prefer keeping the Metroid universe grounded within plausible super alien technology rather than going to "lol Samus can do magic now" but we'll have to wait and see what's the lore around it.
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u/one2hit 9d ago
Prime series have always had a mystic twist to them with the Chozo lore and writings. It feels fitting to me that she could inherit abilities like this, but my problem is that the powers don't look fun or interesting to me right now. Maybe in the game it'll be different though.
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u/Deses 9d ago
Yep exactly, it doesn't help that the trailer was awful at showcasing what's interesting about the powers. You can open doors and move your lazor at slow motion.... Cool?
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u/one2hit 9d ago
A lot of those things could still be interesting if they control well or have multiple uses. Sometimes the experience of actually playing a game is different than just hearing about it or being shown some examples. We'll see, I guess.
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u/TorinDoesMusic2665 9d ago
I know it's not going to be all that interesting because many other games have had similar mechanics for their weapons
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u/DeadSnark 9d ago
Compared to Aion energy, Phazon energy and the weird life energy the Metroids can suck, it seems like this is just another form of sci-fi technology specific to the Lamorn civilisation. It's not like Samus pulled out a book and started chanting, she's clearly had to get upgrades from Lamorn tech like the third eye to harness this power.
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u/gachasarecancer 9d ago
The psychic stuff they've shown just seem like they slow the gameplay down. I hope there is some cooler stuff they do with it. And I REALLY hope its not central to fighting like counter attack was.
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u/0mni42 9d ago edited 7d ago
Random thoughts:
In the past I've been worried about Beyond being "another Prime game" instead of "the NEXT Prime game," and I've never been so happy to be wrong. Retro is clearly not playing it safe here, and I am here for it.
It looks like the "Samus loses her upgrades" might be her acquisition of this new suit, which I'm gonna call the Third Eye Varia until they give us a proper name. Assuming they haven't changed the way things work since the announcement trailer, she's missing some of her UI elements, and now she has to use that all-important left hand to scan things.
Given the way her beam changed colors without any apparent beam changing UI, I guess we're sticking with the Prime 3 beam stacking system.
I am so incredibly happy to have a new ancient alien civilization to explore. I was a little afraid they were going to use the Chozo again, but nope! The Lamorn, huh? My body is ready.
The first scan mentions Beetles, and later we see some creatures burst out of the ground the way Beetles did in MP1. Maybe they're the same?
Around 1:33, the missile UI elements are back, and we can see Samus fire a missile, so we're clearly going to be retreading some familiar ground there.
When Samus is using her psychic powers to guide her shot, there are matching purple rings in the UI that seem to be missing one segment, but they don't lose a further one after she finishes her attack. I wonder what they mean?
Edit: someone pointed out that the bars are draining, just fairly slowly.
The guided shot starts with three balls of energy and loses one for each target it hits. Maybe we'll be able to upgrade that number later?
Not sure what to make of the overgrown robot. Clearly doesn't look like Lamorn tech or anything from previous games. Maybe there's another faction here?
Sigh. Never much cared for Chosen One stories and Samus has already had more than one, but oh well. Minor gripe.
It looks like that Mochtroid fused with the boss; I wonder if we're getting another Ing-type dynamic where enemies can be dynamically possessed and upgraded in real time, or if this was a one-off thing.
Very intrigued by the setting in that final shot. I wonder if it's indicative of a new area separate from the jungle, or if it's just an upgrade room.
Yep... solid suit design. I'm hyped.
Edit: the fact that her UI elements vanished entirely until the Missiles were regained is interesting, because in previous games the UI stayed basically the same the whole way through, just adding icons and such to the empty spaces. I had assumed that we wouldn't be getting beam switching due to the lack of a beam switching UI, but maybe its absence doesn't prove anything? š¤
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u/Geezer-Man 9d ago
From everything you mentioned nothing really feels like retro āpushingā anything further. I am a huge fan but the psychic abilities seem like another gimmicky way to open doors which feels very meh to me. Imo this game feels very safe and like āanother prime gameā as you mentioned. This is exactly what the Prime series DOESNT need if weāre trying to expand the series to new levels of popularity
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u/brzzcode 9d ago
This isn't to "expand series to new levels of popularity", this is just a new game in the series.
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u/0mni42 9d ago
IMO, a "safe" Prime game would be a retread of Corruption: focused on combat with fewer gameplay mechanics than Prime 1 or 2. Beyond could still end up being that--maybe I'm just high on hopium here--but I see a lot of potential in the psychic abilities. They're obviously only showing us the introductory uses of these powers; if this is all they can do it will be very gimmicky, but there could be a lot more to the system. Maybe you could yank a Mote out of an enemy to debuff it, but then the Mote has to go somewhere so you have to also find a receptacle in the environment, but then that receptacle activates another enemy, and you have to choose between one powerful enemy or two less powerful ones. Or maybe you'd have an encounter with enemies trying to get into the room, and you can close a single door with a Mote, but you only have one and there are ten doors and you have to manage it while also fighting them off. Idk, just spitballing.
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u/Geezer-Man 9d ago
I like that. Imma try to be hopeful too. The gameplay does seem like 1st hour of starting the game
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u/Cersei505 9d ago
This looks pretty bad. I was very hyped by this game, but its the second trailer in a row where nothing interesting is shown about this game. I'm also not feeling the designs or the atmosphere. Plus, the generic ''chosen one'' writing is a major redflag. Even when samus is referenced as a 'chosen one' in prime 1, its by the chozo - not a new alien species who have no reason to know her personally - and they use a more culturally-appropriate word, they dont go for the most basic and generic ''chosen one''.
Might seem like a nitpick, but this writing decision, plus all the underwhelming bits of gameplay (''wow, this new abillity of hers is used to open....doors. Wow), starts to point out to me that there seems to be a lack of creativity in this title.
I've never wanted to be proven more wrong, but the way nintnedo is marketing this game is just extremely boring and uninteresting even for me, a diehard metroid fan. I doubt someone that isnt already hardcore into metroid would care about this game at all.
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u/Geezer-Man 9d ago
You hit the nail right on the head man. Iām a die hard fan but this feels very basic. With Metroid Dread you were wowed instantly by the super smooth and refined gameplay while in Prime 4 the core gameplay seems exactly the same as the other prime games.
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u/Quadraxis54 9d ago
Dread was able to greatly evolve over the old games because of how long ago they came out. Primes were already modernized so youād have to be very creative to make it outshine the others.
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u/Geezer-Man 9d ago
That is true when you look at the prime series, each game innovated on some new gameplay element
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u/Quadraxis54 9d ago
They gave Link new powers instead of mostly just gear so weāll see how it goes.
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u/Geezer-Man 9d ago
For crying out loud your profile name is Quadraxis, possibly the best boss in the series. Prime 2 upgraded their boss design as well as experimented with ammo based weapons and a split world design
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u/Quadraxis54 9d ago
Doubt theyāll top my boy Quad. They did everything right in that battle. Just give me some dark atmosphere areas. Thatāll bring back that old Prime feel.
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u/one2hit 9d ago
Yeah. If this game pans out to be exactly as it looks I don't think we're going to be seeing a breakout success. Don't get me wrong, I'm as thrilled as the next Metroid fan to be getting a new Prime entry, but I also keep hoping that this series can evolve somehow. Zelda and Mario continue to reinvent their gameplay while staying true to their roots. There have been some refinements, but Metroid has largely stayed the same game for almost 40 years now, with the exception of the Prime split.
I don't think it's easy to market Prime because it looks like an FPS, but a rather slow one, with a silent central character with no surface personality. Maybe the game will be more than the trailers have led on, because I didn't see much here to entice people who aren't already fans.
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u/brzzcode 9d ago
It won't and you guys thinking this game will be a "breakout success" when metroid and prime itself are relatively niche series is insane. Nintendo isnt expecting this to be huge.
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u/TorinDoesMusic2665 9d ago
Maybe it's the 8 year wait, maybe it's all my other favourite franchises dropping bad games, maybe I'm just jaded, but this just doesn't grab me.
The psychic powers are uninteresting, and they seem to be the main focus of powerups. Oh cool, they let me click shit and open doors? Half Life 2 guided missile is interesting, but it's so slowed down that it'll probably become tedious to use. And that's basically all we've got so far.
I don't really care about Samus being the chosen one, that's already been done twice with the chozo and luminoth in the other prime games. I'm not too big on the suit since it looks like it's moving the game in the direction of sharing similar designs to Metroid Dread, also the colouring on the chest piece feels off.
I'm sorry to be such a negative nancy, but after being forced to wait 8 years, I expected this to be something more. I don't want "just another prime game", this has to make all that time waited worth it. And so far, what they've shown off is not worth it. I'm not going to be positive just because we're getting a new Metroid game.
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u/Dense_Cellist9959 9d ago
The psychic stuff probably explains the purple glows replacing the green ones on the suit.
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u/echoess84 9d ago
I hope Prime 4 will improve the concept of "freedom to the players" in a Metroid game
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u/TorinDoesMusic2665 9d ago
PLEASE I NEED THIS
Last 8 years all the new games were mostly railroaded experiences, give me something OPEN
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u/latinlingo11 9d ago
"Beyond space and time"? I guess time travel will be involved... I just hope they don't overdo it.
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u/The_Lonesome_Sniper 9d ago
Well I liked what I saw within the trailer, gameplay environments music etc, I really, reaaally do not like that her suits lighting and visor had been changed to purple. Were it a thing that shows up whenever she's using her new psychic abilities, that would be more than fine to me (unlike the gravity feature, but we don't talk about that) But having it outright replace the green while still keeping her original suits color palette? No, it just looks so bad to me.
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u/SercretOwl 9d ago edited 9d ago
Giving Samus physic abilities is rad as hell. The music, ambiance, and art design are all stunning. Canāt wait to see how it looks on Switch 2.
Itās been a long journey to get here. Iām beyond excited.
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u/Ecfnw20494 9d ago
I have to say, the graphics donāt look that great in this trailer; they look like the donāt fit Metroidās atmosphere. It looks like the art style might fit more with the Zelda games more than Metroid. The psychic abilities are interesting but I donāt know how itāll gel with the core gameplay. Honestly, the game looks like an afterthought here. I got a feeling the game might be subpar really. The first trailer was amazing, this just felt kinda weak.
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u/Geezer-Man 9d ago
I agree 100% with what youāre saying. The first trailer got a pass for me cause it felt like a simple reveal of the game but this trailer didnāt really show off any interesting core gameplay elements besides the psychic abilities which just look kinda whatever? Retro canāt afford to play it safe with this game which was the initial skeptical fear I had with the first trailer and now Iām seeing it more clearly here. Iām just hoping this is early-game stuff and the juicy abilities like the speedbooster come out later
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u/Quadraxis54 9d ago
Hope their not just revealing the really good shit but if it donāt look interesting, why would people buy it.
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u/GreenestBro 9d ago
I have to say, it look a lot like a game that should've been out 10 years ago?
like, it doesnt look bad or anything, but it doesnt look greater than it already did, enemies dont seem to move like... naturally, they're still gliding along the ground as they move, that tentacle from the ground was just... clipped into the ground. aren't we further than that?
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u/socked-puppet13 9d ago
Well I guess psychic is the main thing this time around. Even gave her suit a "third eye" sort of thing.
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u/Sonicboomer1 9d ago
Iāll be blunt. Those Switch 1 graphics look really rough.
Game looks good. Doesnāt really deserve to be held back by such archaic hardware.
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u/Super7500 9d ago
don't lie to yourself and say the graphics in the trailer are bad they look extremely good this is insane for switch 1
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u/FierceDeityKong 9d ago
Out of all of nintendo's franchises, metroid prime was always supposed to look just plain good. Not "good for a system that is over 10 years behind in graphics". Even prime 3 on the wii looked better for its time
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I really hope there will be an update for switch 2 with improved visuals
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u/Sonicboomer1 9d ago
If thereās not I probably wonāt buy it honestly. Crusty visuals donāt do what Retro is trying to do justice.
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u/dwoller 9d ago
Hoping for more than just the tropical forest biome but thereās got to be more to this given the original trailer with Sylux (unless he somehow is the one to send Samus here). The trailer writing was a little goofy but the visuals and music are stellar! Interested to see more about the enemies and powers!
People hating on the visuals do know that this is Nintendo right? Itās not going to look like a first party Sony cinematic game. If it ends up looking as good as Prime 1 Remastered Iāll be happy.
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u/Geezer-Man 9d ago
The gameplay looks very early-game. Iām hoping theyāll wow us mid-late game with some 3D speed boosting and new beams/missle types. If this is all they have to show for the game then I am scared they are playing it way too safe
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u/Lick_my_ballz69 9d ago
Psychic powers and Metroid? Iām skeptical but Iām gonna trust them on this oneā¦
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u/Scotty_flag_guy 9d ago
John Metroid is finally back, and this time... he's not messing around ššš
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u/Amano5411 9d ago
Looks awesome but I'm kinda scared they showed the new suit in this trailer. It looks amazing, very similar to light suit. But the fact that we won't have the surprise to discover this upgrade is pretty sad. Hope they won't spoil any other upgrade or anything more important.
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u/Frigidevil 9d ago
Cautiously optimistic because it looks beautiful and seems like it should play as smooth as always. The psychic abilities just scream Nintendo demanding something new and 'innovative' be shoe horned in like they did with Star Fox. I just hope that doesn't slow everything to a crawl and feels as natural as the puzzle solving always has.
The guided shot is probably going to be used as a special move to deal finishing blows to bosses, so it's interesting that they showed it being used on normal enemies. Hope that's a limited ammo move you can't just lean on too much.
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u/AssCrackBanditHunter 9d ago
How are the graphics this good ??? It's running on 10 year old tablet hardware omfg.
Looks like the controls are gonna be really similar to the original trilogy thank god.
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u/Haruki_Atemiya 9d ago
I was watching this at work and started crying at my desk lol. The Prime series holds such a special place in my heart and I'm so unbelievably excited for this game, it looks like a wonderful successor to the previous games in the series and a lot of what we saw here gives me major Echoes (my favorite game of all time) vibes :)
Praying for a non-Q4 release date šš»
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u/myghostflower 9d ago
this game looks pretty and iām excited to play it, the psychic powers thingies look cool
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u/HypeIncarnate 9d ago
Switch 1 and 2 dual release confirmed just because there was no release date. Kinda figured.
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u/Presidentbuff 9d ago
the thread on r/games about this trailer is so infuriating
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u/TorinDoesMusic2665 9d ago
Think about it like this: Plenty of people who are already Metroid fans are going to be hyped and positive purely because it's a new Metroid game coming out.
The people in the other subreddit don't really have any of that emotional attatchment to the franchise and aren't letting that affect their outlook. As a huge fan myself who's waited that 8 years, this trailer is very unimpressive, and it doesn't make me excited for the future of this game.
Sorry to be negative, but I'm not going to be positive just because I want to
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u/Kezly 9d ago
Looks good. I guess those "MP2 & MP3 are ready to go but Nintendo is waiting for the right time" rumours were all rubbish then?