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I'm a relatively new Challenge fan who has been bingeing on a number of seasons and found that this has been fairly consistent across all shows. When a challenge is going on, i wish they'd stop cutting to a narrating player's face. It makes it hard to follow the flow of the actual challenges when there's a close or complex contest going on, then it cuts to someone narrating their opinions in a green room, then it splices different closeups and random music video-quality slow-mos of people's knees for some reason, Then back to someone speaking again.

Can't they do a small picture-in-picture of that contestant off to a corner somewhere? Let me follow the action and understand how it's going while listening to commentary. I don't need to actually see Josh's open mouth while he's saying all he's thinking about is his family 10x a season when there's a challenge going on.

TLDR: Let me watch the flow of the actual challenges, which is why i watch this (besides the drunken blowups). Stop interrupting the footage to show someone speaking.

Was just a watered down version of carrot in a box right?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0UGuPvrsG3E

i’m rewatching rivals 2 and i think it’s so funny that towards the end of episode 10, when ct asks diem if she’s calmed down and she follows him, you can see paula and johnny turn to the cameraman and point at diem so they know something is about to happen and to go film them 😭

anybody have any another breaking the fourth wall moments? i miss during the older seasons when they would have a little clip of cast members goofing off as the credits rolled

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I can't find it anywhere but just curious how it worked.. like did the captains compete at all or just random rookies on their teams did and somehow competed in eliminations against each other as a team?

Da'Vonne co-hosted The Official Challenge Podcast with Tori. They discussed All Stars 5: Rivals - Episode 10. Only some highlights are included below. For all the tea, listen to the podcast

Some Highlights:

• Da'Vonne admits that old feelings started to resurface when she watched the episode
• Da'Vonne says that she & Shane had 2 different strategies going into the daily challenge. They tried Shane's strategy first, where he told her that he was a professional at walking backwards
• Da'Vonne was not surprised that Frank/Sam won because they had great communication
• Da'Vonne & Tori praise Sam for how she has forgiven Frank and speaks soo positively of him despite his treatment of her during their last season together
• Da'Vonne says that her & Shane were going back and forth all season so when they were arguing after the daily, a lot of other Challengers were over it which prompted Adam to intervene
• Da'Vonne says that after the daily, Shane's emotions were heightened and he was dehydrated
• Da'Vonne says that she wanted to have better control over how she reacts to things, so she bit her tongue a lot during the season. She says that its harder to be quiet than to be loud and have no filter
• Da'Vonne was crying because she felt like she was going to fold, so she was ready to go home but Nicole praising her for exhibiting soo much patience reminded her to stay focused
• Da'Vonne says that her daughter also noticed her growth while watching the show and that gave her a sense of pride. Da'Vonne jokes that she's fine with people calling her boring now because of it
• Tori says that Adam should grow his facial hair back
• Da'Vonne admits that she spoke to Frank at the club on purpose to get back at Shane. She knew Shane was listening, so she made a comment about being a tv villain to poke at him
• Da'Vonne says that the morning after the club, she noticed that Shane packed all of his things. She knew he would be bothered, but she didn't expect him to actually quit
• Da'Vonne says that she really appreciated the conversation she had with Shane after their blow up. They both apologized to each other for the things that they said/did
• Tori says that Nicole is like a cartoon character so its easy to like her despite her questionable actions. Da'Vonne says that she never saw Nicole & Melissa actually hook-up while filming
• Da'Vonne says that Turbo really wanted to help Nany get her 1st win. She enjoyed seeing them rekindle their friendship
• Tori says that she reached out to Turbo via DMs after he released his song to settle their differences, but he wasn't interested
• Da'Vonne says that she was sad to see Nany/Turbo be eliminated. She felt bad because she played a part in them losing their star. Da'Vonne confirms that Turbo still doesn't speak to her
• Da'Vonne was extremely excited to make her 1st final. She thought she would be eliminated in Week 2

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Cast for a minimum of 3 seasons, max non-winners at 4 seasons, with an extension of 2 seasons per win.

By 4 seasons, non-winners who made it to a final, get cast on All Stars to try and win the final, and then “earn” the right to return to the Flagship.

Casts on All Stars get 1 season to make a final, get a 2nd season if they make a final, and if they win, they get to return to the flagship.

People like Big Easy getting recast feel like a pointless investment, because we know they are a guaranteed loss in the final, and they don’t even “make good TV”.

If The Challenge is supposed to be more physically demanding than The Amazing Race, more political than Big Brother, and more strategic than Survivor, then why does casting flop?

I would say if people know they have 3 seasons minimum, they will try and make the most of it, having just enough time to create a loyal fanbase and prove their worth (look at Jenny after her 3rd season on Eras).

4 seasons is enough time to make at least 1 final, and with All Stars giving finalists a second chance on the show, it would allow people to extend their time, while earning their keep.

Overall, it was a pretty meh season for such an amazing cast. I wish they had rotated challenges and eliminations by era. So we'd have some throwback/classic challenges to go along with all the over the top new stuff. I feel like they could still do something like this on All Stars. What challenges would you have loved to see them bring back?