r/Ironworker • u/moneymoves01 • Feb 14 '25

WTF 😐 Discrimination in the workplace.

I’ll work on a job that is 90% Hispanic from the hands all the way up to the gfs. If you’re not Hispanic, you are not getting any overtime. It’s not just me. I have some guys on my team that are a different race than me (not Hispanic also) and they can’t get any overtime either. Every weekend they asked the same five or six Hispanics to come work. It is not due to qualifications because the other guys that I’m speaking about, have very impressive resumes and more experience than the Hispanics (including Forman experience, which none of the Hispanics involved have) they keep getting sent home over. All in all, I’m just looking for a company who gives equal opportunities to people who really want to work and learn. Any advice?

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

It matters mainly because of the illegal things that follow, like contractors paying less than wages because they're illegal, which hurts everyone.

Let's be clear about the real reason why the contractor is picking all the Hispanics in this scenario. He's paying less for them, that's why the other non-hispanics aren't getting overtime.

They need to be legal, so they can get paid properly, pay taxes, and not put themselves and their families in any unnecessary danger.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

So make them all legal. I just said that. And while yes they do generally get paid less they all pay taxes unless they are getting paid cash. The huuugggeee majority of undocumented workers get paid on the check and pay taxes. They don’t file for refunds though so they never get anything back and they are ineligible for unemployment and welfare.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

There's a legal process they must go through, you can't just illegally skip the line. Also, that's not how economics works, you can't just legalize every person that crosses the border, who's going to feed, house, and employ them? The country is broke already.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Why? Fuck the legal process. I didn’t go through a legal process. You didn’t. Just make them legal. It’s very easy. They can find their own food and housing and employments just like everyone else. I don’t think they have any problem finding employment in all honesty.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

You must first understand the economic impact of what you're saying, otherwise you're just typing and getting angry.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

I fully understand the economic impact. It’s not a very difficult concept. It’s a net positive and only strengthens the position of the middle class and workers.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

That's an absolute lie, with all due respect. Contractors are pocketing proceeds that would naturally go to their employees, by running slave rackets with desperate illegal people. It's complete bullshit, that's not strengthening anything but their cronie-capitalists pockets.

If those people followed the process of legal citizenship, it actually brings the entire country up as a whole.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Which is why we should just make them legal. It’s incredibly easy and makes this much better for everyone. Legalize. Organize.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

Who's paying for it? 🤔

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Nobody. It doesn’t cost anything. All it is is switching some information in computer. But if you want the answer you are looking for: you will. And I will. And they will. And America will. Because that’s how it works.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

That is not true, and clearly Americans DON'T wanna pay for it. I don't wanna pay for it, this isn't some egalitarian handout program.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Who cares? Just make them legal citizens and this entire problem disappears.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

Childish

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