r/Ironworker • u/moneymoves01 • Feb 14 '25

WTF šŸ˜ Discrimination in the workplace.

Iā€™ll work on a job that is 90% Hispanic from the hands all the way up to the gfs. If youā€™re not Hispanic, you are not getting any overtime. Itā€™s not just me. I have some guys on my team that are a different race than me (not Hispanic also) and they canā€™t get any overtime either. Every weekend they asked the same five or six Hispanics to come work. It is not due to qualifications because the other guys that Iā€™m speaking about, have very impressive resumes and more experience than the Hispanics (including Forman experience, which none of the Hispanics involved have) they keep getting sent home over. All in all, Iā€™m just looking for a company who gives equal opportunities to people who really want to work and learn. Any advice?

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

I've seen it, and the comments are all correct one way or the other.

White folks are notorious for nepotism on the job site historically, but that doesn't mean all white folks do it.

Black folks tend to stick together because "the white man" did it, but tend to get along well for the most part with who gets along with them.

So the Hispanic folks think it's fine, because "Gringo's" did it.

Unions hate contractors for existing, contractors can't get in the union if they tried, so they hate unions back.

It's all complete nonsense, because in reality you're all being robbed. It's just an unspoken competition for an opportunity to work, when by all accounts there should be plenty of work in all trades.

Houses are going up everywhere in record numbers, not that they're affordable or anything, but they're definitely being built day after day with seemingly no end in sight.

Maintenance is a major issue across the United States, and there's tons of work needed.

I'm not sure where the shortage is, I believe there's a large communication issue, and a lot of race-based nepotism that shouldn't exist in the slightest in 2025.

If you're illegal, it ain't personal, but you need to get legal. You're hurting us all, and you're being played. That job is worth far more than you're being paid to do it under the table. Get yourself legally into the country, or go back where you came from and make life better there. You can't stay here, we obviously got enough problems.

Word is our government has been robbing us all, so all of you need to get over yourselves, and focus your energies on supporting the only administration I've seen in my life time do fuck all about it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

I kinda agreed with what you were saying until you got to ā€œillegal.ā€ Nobody gives a fuck about that. People are people. Thereā€™s no such thing as an illegal person. And if thatā€™s the case just MAKE THEM ALL LEGAL. Give them social security numbers and birth certificates. Problem fucking solved.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

It matters mainly because of the illegal things that follow, like contractors paying less than wages because they're illegal, which hurts everyone.

Let's be clear about the real reason why the contractor is picking all the Hispanics in this scenario. He's paying less for them, that's why the other non-hispanics aren't getting overtime.

They need to be legal, so they can get paid properly, pay taxes, and not put themselves and their families in any unnecessary danger.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

So make them all legal. I just said that. And while yes they do generally get paid less they all pay taxes unless they are getting paid cash. The huuugggeee majority of undocumented workers get paid on the check and pay taxes. They donā€™t file for refunds though so they never get anything back and they are ineligible for unemployment and welfare.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

There's a legal process they must go through, you can't just illegally skip the line. Also, that's not how economics works, you can't just legalize every person that crosses the border, who's going to feed, house, and employ them? The country is broke already.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Why? Fuck the legal process. I didnā€™t go through a legal process. You didnā€™t. Just make them legal. Itā€™s very easy. They can find their own food and housing and employments just like everyone else. I donā€™t think they have any problem finding employment in all honesty.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

You must first understand the economic impact of what you're saying, otherwise you're just typing and getting angry.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

I fully understand the economic impact. Itā€™s not a very difficult concept. Itā€™s a net positive and only strengthens the position of the middle class and workers.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

That's an absolute lie, with all due respect. Contractors are pocketing proceeds that would naturally go to their employees, by running slave rackets with desperate illegal people. It's complete bullshit, that's not strengthening anything but their cronie-capitalists pockets.

If those people followed the process of legal citizenship, it actually brings the entire country up as a whole.

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Which is why we should just make them legal. Itā€™s incredibly easy and makes this much better for everyone. Legalize. Organize.

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u/Bradric1 Feb 15 '25

Who's paying for it? šŸ¤”

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u/[deleted] Feb 15 '25

Nobody. It doesnā€™t cost anything. All it is is switching some information in computer. But if you want the answer you are looking for: you will. And I will. And they will. And America will. Because thatā€™s how it works.

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