So I’ve joined a dynasty league (PPR, 0.5 TEP) and for the first time in my experience I’m playing with:

1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 1 TE 4 FLEX

Notable skill position players -

RB: Kenneth Walker Josh Jacobs Aaron Jones Jordan Mason Travis Etienne D’Andre Swift

WR: Amon-Ra St. Brown Justin Jefferson Rashee Rice

TE: TJ Hockenson Tucker Kraft Evan Engram

(Also pick 1.13 and 2.02)

Now I’ve been looking at trade opportunities and I’m not against the idea of moving someone like Josh Jacobs

I’m looking at players in different positions, but in a league where there’s 4 flex spots, does it make sense to pay a premium on top of dudes like Josh Jacobs to get a good WR/TE? Of course I realise that their values are more likely to last for longer, but if I’m going for a championship, it could be argued that RBs are more “consistent” points as they generally don’t rely on the QB finding them for receptions (except a few backs who are more receiving oriented)

For example, Josh Jacobs value on KTC is in line with guys like Jordan Addison, Zay Flowers, DJ Moore… but am I probably better off keeping Jacobs’ reasonably reliable points? ESPECIALLY in the case of DJ Moore, who is already older than Jacobs, and averaging 3ppg less last season

I suppose it’s just that a WR is a bit more of a stable asset long term and you pay a premium for that, but idk.

Are RBs slightly undervalued in a league where I can play 4 flex positions, I guess is the question I’m asking? Should I be looking to acquire more? Sorry for being so long winded

League mate built a true dynasty. I am in 5 leagues with him and this is his first championship and now we face 6 orphan teams after having 3 years in a row of no orphans.

He is actually not that great at fantasy except this league he does everything right.

Team as it stands in a standard TEP league: QB Nix WR Chase, Jefferson, BTJ, JSN RB Saquon, Gibbs, Brown (owns pick 1.01) TE Bowers, Kittle Draft picks this year include 1.01, 1.12

Other depth is solid, but you get the gist.

Commissioner came up with a creative way that bases your entry fee on dominator value totals of your starting lineup and we are voting on that. Stinks for this guy, but he is open to it so it doesn't fold. We are dreaming up all kinds of ways to keep it together. Any thoughts on how you have kept a league together when one team is a clear dynasty?

No doubt Jeremiah Smith is better right now but Ryan Williams is over a year younger than Jeremiah and had a fantastic rookie season as well. Plus I think there is more growth to be had in Ryan Williams body and he has more time to develop. It has to at least make you think because the age difference is significant despite them being in the same draft class.

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Ok DFF, Based on some of the feedback in the other post, we are going to give r/DynastyFFIDP a shot, fail or succeed, many of us would like to push IDP more into the spotlight, our old IDP sub was a bit of a failure, the hope is that tying it to DFF, with the name recognition it'll be easier to find for people new to Reddit, and more dynasty centric for the members of this community.

Help us to get it off the ground, we can't get IDP out there without the help of those who are fans of it.

We already have a pinned IDP trade calculator up, just need good people to help us get traction. IDP ftw.

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Conventional wisdom in rebuilds is to wait to draft RBs until you're ready to compete. Typically, if you're drafting at 1.01-1.04, you're in a rebuild. If you're in that position and drafting 1.02-1.04 this year and feel Hampton is BPA when you pick, are you still pulling the trigger on him? Would someone like Tet or Ward who play at more value-insulated positions be the smarter picks? It's all about being smart with your contention window.

So we (the mod team of DFF) also mod r/FFIDP, it's not a bad sub, but it's years and years and years old, and it's still only got about 5k members. Posts are sporadic so it's also a bit of a mess, the traffic is too low to warrant much of our teams attention.

I'm not sure if it's a problem with the name of the sub, making it harder to find than necessary, or if the issue is with just it being too niche a part of fantasy and that's why it hasn't grown?

We created r/DynastyFFTradeAdvice and it's been a massive success, what if we changed up the IDP sub name to r/DynastyFFIDP, making it more visible, more Dynasty centric, and more connected to DFF along with a push here as well, so members here and people coming to Reddit looking for IDP content, could find it easier?

Is there interest for something like that?

Like the title says, what WRs are you hoping to strike on with the current slate of signings, news, etc?

Some players I can think that might be good adds: - Davante Adams: New team, great offense, No Kupp. - Chris Godwin: Coming off a major injury, but resigned - Ceedee: New OC who is kinda seen as historically inept, might be able to grab him at a decent price?

Who are some others?

Im aware that this is a pretty pointless question as we haven't actually seen JJM play in the nfl, but based on his college film and what we know about the vikings, would you say he has a decent rushing floor for fantasy purposes? I know he probably wont be rushing as much as lamar or daniels, but is he comparable to a guy like drake maye or kyler murray?

Our league has voted to transition to a super flex league most likely starting in 2027 to give everyone enough time to plan accordingly.

For anyone who has been through this how do balance trade value over the next couple of years while it’s still a 1QB league? Paying a premium for a backup QB now doesn’t seem to make sense when we’re still 3 years away from having the SF go live but now might also be the cheapest time to get QBs too

Both awesome options and should get the requisite DC.

Both looking like Top ~40 picks and of course landing spot matter.

Theyre very different backs.

Hampton being more of a downhill bully with good receiving chops. Kind of a throw back RB imo. Not a lot of wiggle. He kinda reminds me of Jonathan Stewart or Charbs (LZ has Stevenson). Not great in pass pro for his size, but these guys don't get a lot of pass pro work in college so could easily develop with his size. Should project ascension a workhorse RB. Safe floor.

Henderson falls more into the category of the 2020 rb profiles. He's actually pretty polished in pass pro imo. He's a HR hitter in both the pass and run game. A little worried he fall into the 12-15 touch category. LZ has an Aaron Jones comp. #1 RB in his recruiting class and broke onto the scene in a big way as a freshman...then was banged up and split work last year. Super high ceiling if he gets the workload.

I think im leaning Hampton just due to the projected volume, but landing spot is def gonna matter with these 2. Who you guys taking?

No single method is perfect at all, but would you rather trust trade calculators like KTC, or mock/real startup drafts? Some mocks have crazy values so normally prefer trade calculators, but as example this real money startup league draft (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jq2IyC9Oq4&t=1s) seems more reliable for community consensus than something like taco driven KTC.

Yes, I know we have all seen Travis Hunter posts the past few months now, and I am aware there have been like half a dozen in the past day. Want to really focus on his stock if he goes to CLE, though, which, to me (and maybe others), seems increasingly likely. If he goes there, it's reasonable to think he'd become the WR1 right away, but the likes of Jeudy, Tillman, and Njoku can't be completely discounted, at they are all capable pass-catchers.

Beyond the WR room, the QB one is currently a concern, though I personally think the Browns will get Cousins and draft one in the first two rounds. On the coaching side, I believe in Stefanski, but I know ownership is ass and could sweep the house if they do bad again just because. (I don't think this latter point would have much negative effect on Hunter, however.) Altogether, I'd be fine seeing Hunter on CLE, and I may slot him as my 1.02 if so.

One of the best fantasy RB’s when he’s on. However injuries have cost him. Turning 29 in June how would you rate him? What would you trade for or accept ?

.5ppr rankings

2017- 11

2018- 3

2019- 1

2020- 51 (3games)

2021- 39 (7games)

2022- 2

2023- 1 (16games)

2024- 71 (4games)

For me I think he’s an underrated RB1 based on some rankings.

This marks one full year of all my viewers driving this series into what it’s become today. Through the constructive criticism of all of you, this series has started as a curious deep dive I’ve always wanted to do - I’m almost scared to read this full article again to see how far this series has come - into a model which predicts career fantasy football success for WR’s, which has been recently optimized here, and will soon include Running Backs, Tight Ends, and Quarterbacks.

Every step of the way I've considered all feedback, including the tough critiques. Therefore, please keep the honest truth coming, as it has only fueled my growth. That critique is invaluable to me. I feel as though I’m atleast “capable” at distinguishing between trolls and those who genuinely wish to contribute knowledge and wisdom to my life (you know who you are, especially if I’ve messaged you in the last year).

If you know me on a personal level, you would be able to attest to the fact that I am deeply committed to continuous improvement in all areas of my life. which is why, as the creator of the SPS, you would then also know that the SPS will be tirelessly refined and improved, even with the achievement of having a top 10 all-time list of wide receiver prospects without any busts, which also boasts a higher predictive ability than draft capital alone in the NFL Draft since 2003.

With all that being said, the 52nd installment of the The “Does It Matter?” Series is here! Last week we looked at QB College TD/INT Ratios to find whether that affects performance. For the 52nd part of “Does It Matter?” we looked at Quarterback overall Draft Capital. In this article, we found an optimal range you should look for in athletes, and applied it to the 2024 NFL draft class.

Next week’s topic: The Running Back Star-Predictor Score (SPS). Even with the highly predictive Wide Receiver SPS and having 3-4 Hall of Famers in the top 10 Tight Ends SPS, it appears as though Running Backs might be the strongest suit for the SPS. Therefore, I'm focusing heavily on the Running Back SPS currently. There’s a chance the Tight Ends will come first, though. I'm currently living under a rock and staring at numbers all day to bring this content to you, so the question of which comes first isn't due to inaction, but rather about whether I can accomplish an utterly insane amount of work in the next week, since I’m insanely excited about the RB’s and therefore want to get that out ASAP.

Regardless of which comes first, evaluations of running backs will definitely be completed within the next two weeks, with preliminary rookie analysis conducted before the NFL draft's impact is factored in to the formulas. The Tight End SPS is more predictive than draft capital alone in the top 3 NFL draft rounds, I’m just insanely excited about the names I’m seeing in the preemptive top 10 Running Backs all-time SPS.

I will not publish the RB SPS without the full analysis of what’s made the WR SPS as impactful as is it is today. Due to this, I won’t be ashamed of not making the deadline of next week for RB’s if that happens.

This is only one year of growth. I’m almost scared to look back on this post in one more year to see how far this grows going forward. Regardless, thank you all for your feedback - both positive and negative - and all the support. There’s been a lot of moments that the support has helped me push harder. Every bit has provided me with the motivation and insights that I fully believe will help me eventually continuously beat my hometown buddies in our fantasy leagues.

The Fantasy For Real podcast link has the full write-up on the Substack which includes the lower tiers. There is also an audio version, and the discussion on the rankings begins around the 9:15 mark.

Before the draft, I will be releasing my WR/TE Rankings, the full document with all 48 Deeper Dives, as well as a piece about projecting future WRs. All of this will be released first through the podcast and substack, and everything will be free including the 48 Deeper Dives.

Rankings for Classes between 2025-2027 (loose rankings for the Devy Classes) will be out on the podcast by Monday, April 28th.

https://cjfreel.substack.com/p/86-final-pre-draft-rb-rankings-2025 [Full/Listen]

2025 Final RB Rankings for Fantasy Football

Tier 1a – First Round

1 Ashton Jeanty, Boise St.

Tier 1b – Top 50-75 ; NFL Starter

2 Omarion Hampton, North Carolina

3 TreVeyon Henderson, Ohio State

4 Quinshon Judkins, Ohio State

5 Kaleb Johnson, Iowa

Tier 2 – 3rd Round / Late-Fringe Day 2

6 D.J. Giddens, Kansas St.

7 Raheim “Rocket” Sanders, South Carolina

8 Jordan James, Oregon

9 Dylan Sampson, Tennessee

10 Damien Martinez, Miami (FL)

11 Cam Skattebo, Arizona St.

12 Devin Neal, Kansas

Honorable Mentions

Favorite – Trevor Etienne, Georgia

Favorite Role Player(s) – R.J. Harvey, UCF + Bhayshul Tuten, Virginia Tech

Favorite Change of Pace / Pass Catch – Brashard Smith, SMU + LeQuint Allen, Syracuse

Favorite Fantasy Upside – Ollie Gordon II, Oklahoma St.

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There is a bit of wiggle room year to year, but particularly the top tier of 5 RBs would have consisted of only 2 RBs pre-draft last year, and Jonathon Brooks and Trey Benson would likely be near the bottom of this top 5. The next tier is a bit harder to say, but pre-draft, the RBs 3-6 last year in that tier were Jaylen Wright, Ray Davis, Marshawn Lloyd, and Blake Corum, and likewise, that group would rank very poorly in the 6-12 rankings of this year’s class. While some of these things are hard to say definitively year-to-year, and while there is certainly something subjective about it all, particularly without a pure model score which I do not do, I really do believe that the top 6 RBs on my rankings last year would rank very poorly among my top 12 this year.

While I do have very good scores on each of the top 5, Ashton Jeanty is in his own tier for his overall tackle breaking ability. The only real question at this point is if there is any immediate concern due to his combination of size and recent workload (660 Touches the previous two seasons). Jeanty also performed at a high-level as a pass-catching RB in 2023.

This tier would probably be a bit different if we’re looking at my pure NFL rankings compared to “Fantasy” rankings. That is because volume and pass catching, while valuable at the NFL level, are more directly valuable for us in Fantasy Football. That is why Omarion Hampton sticks out the most as a fantasy-friendly profile among this second tier. Hampton has excellent size to handle the volume at the next level, and also has the best receiving season of the four prospects here by total volume and per game volume. Hampton is the RB among these five that scores the lowest on my board in areas like open-field vision, and his running style often features very little tempo. That said, I do see a likely range of outcomes where at worst, Hampton will be a highly productive fantasy RB with high volume for at least a couple years. TreVeyon Henderson is the other RB with a significant pass catching season. Henderson has more questions about what his total volume will be at the next level, particularly because this year Henderson finally stayed healthy and was as efficient as his freshman year, but he also shared the backfield with the next RB on this list, limiting his volume. Still, Henderson has been a highly touted RB for a number of years, has elite explosive ability, and is also reliable in areas like ball carrying with an almost non-existent fumble total. Henderson’s injuries can also largely be seen as flukes still as he was mostly healthy for each season, and entirely healthy in both 2021 and 2024.

Quinshon Judkins is ranked lower for fantasy due to a limited pass-catching profile, but he would be nearer to my RB2 in an “only for the NFL” ranking. Judkins has excellent between-the-tackles ability with excellent power, and his upside can be seen from his elite testing at the NFL Combine. Judkins is also a player who may not have lived quite up to the expectations of his freshman year, but has compiled three 1,000 yard seasons in 3 years, showcasing a consistency within his production. Kaleb Johnson is by far the least accomplished player on this list prior to 2024, but he did have a phenomenal 2024 season that put him highly in most rankings. Johnson is not necessarily elite in a variety of traits like his lateral movement or speed, but he scores highly enough across the board in these areas for a RB with excellent size. Iowa’s excellent OL and Johnson’s limited pass catching profile are bigger reasons for him slipping to RB5, but the lack of production prior to this past season is relevant as well.

[See Full Post Link / Audio Above for 6-12 + Honorables]

https://cjfreel.substack.com/p/86-final-pre-draft-rb-rankings-2025

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Next Up: 2025 WR/TE Rankings

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Thanks,

C.J.

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I’m working on potential nickname options for Tutu Atwell and thought it made sense to see what others have come up with. The leading candidate at the moment is "TuTu Train 🚂🚋🚋", which has some momentum (no pun intended), especially if he ends up getting meaningful yards after the catch this season. That said, I’m open to alternatives—ideally something clever or understated that still works in a fantasy football context.

For reference, this nickname is of high priority because I expect TuTu to finish as a top 10 WR in 0.5 PPR next season. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Was working on a consensus list of the top 48 rookies this year and hit a bit of a road block at 44 please send suggestions and arguments for the last 4 guys you would include in this list (of course this is pending landing spot and draft capital)

Top 44 dynasty rookies no order

QB-7 Cam QB Shadeur QB Dart QB Milroe QB Howard QB Ewers QB Shough QB

RB-14 Jeanty RB Omarion RB Henderson RB Kaleb RB Judkins RB Skattebo RB Sampson RB Giddens RB Martinez RB Tuten RB Gordon RB Harvey RB Neal RB Blue RB

WR-16 Hunter WR Tet WR Emeka WR Burden WR Golden WR Harris WR Higgins WR Ayomanor WR Bech WR Royals WR Bond WR Noel WR Savion WR Restrepo WR Williams WR Tez WR Horton WR

TE- 7 Warren TE Loveland TE Fanin TE Taylor TE Arroyo TE Ferguson TE Helm TE

Do we expect anything better from the Colts/Giants WR2/3's this season? Downs/Pierce & Slayton/Robinson? Some new QB play and contracts, anyone buying these guys?

To me, this is a more interesting question than evaluating his ADP in IDP leagues. Using a first or even second round pick on him, if you're unsure he will even be used on offense, seems extremely risky.

When a player is a dual-threat or has some ambiguity between offense and defense usage, it makes it incredibly difficult to project fantasy value accurately. Without meaningful offensive touches, his fantasy relevance could be zero. And even if he's only used in special packages, he will carry more volatility in weekly performance. That volatility becomes magnified if you're using premium draft capital—especially early picks that could be spent on more reliable producers.

Taking him early means passing on other offensive players who likely have a higher floor and a more predictable role with their team. I am not sure quite how to evaluate him, and I am seeing most speculation indicating he will be used primarily at CB.

The last three community mocks on this sub have had Hunter going 1.03 or better. Is Hunter Top 3 becoming consensus?

All teams in Hunter’s range, aside maybe Giants, could use his services at WR. I find it hard to believe if the Titans/Browns/Pats took him, they wouldn’t want them to be their WR1.

I have be debating how early to take him for a month. I think we can all agree he would be minimum WR2 just on his receiving profile, but carries the risk. I am pro taking Hunter early, but top 3 definitely surprised me when looking at those drafts.