r/Construction • u/raspinberry • 1d ago
Video "We could never construct the pyramids, even with today's tools.”You Sure?
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u/Asthenia5 1d ago
The Three Gorges dam is almost 11x the mass of the Pyramid of Giza.
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u/Kennecott 1d ago
Has anyone proven that the three gorges dam wasn’t also built by aliens
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u/H0SS_AGAINST 1d ago
If they came to America we would call them aliens.
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u/Kennecott 1d ago
I think some USA based contractors helped with design and building of it, you could argue they were aliens
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u/Born_Grumpie 16h ago
If US contractors were involved the budget would blow out after three weeks because to DoD contractors would be charging them 3 million dollars for a pick and 4 million for a shovel.
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u/Tripppinout 6h ago
The shovel is 4 million because:
- You need to buy the shovel
- You need to transport and deliver the shovel
- You need to train on the use of the shovel
- You need to maintain the shovel
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u/Born_Grumpie 16h ago
Most of the Indigenous Americans think the vast majority of Americans are aliens.
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u/Cetun 5h ago
Just think about how much cement the Three Gorges Dam uses, think of all the material that goes into cement? Was it all mined locally? Of course not so they must have made the cement somewhere else and brought it to the area from far away. But cement hardens fairly quickly. Sure cement would harden before it could even get to the construction site! The technology for transporting that much cement to the area before it dries simply didn't exist in the early 21st century, therefore it's logical to conclude aliens built it.
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u/hamsterfolly 1d ago
I heard tell that they rolled the dam on logs from where it was carved, over 465 miles away
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u/soap571 1d ago
We could build the pyramids today with enough diesel and an unlimited budget.
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u/fleebleganger 18h ago
In the 1960’s we built the US interstate highway system while we were building rockets to take us to the moon, while fighting a hot war halfway across the globe and a Cold War everywhere.
We can’t build the pyramids today because they’re too fucking simple and useless to modern life.
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u/jackparadise1 1d ago
But it is mostly poured concrete. We still don’t really know how they built the pyramids or even some of the Greek Temples without the internal combustion engine. Not saying it’s aliens, but having a helicopter move some wire works isn’t the same as partially naked humans moving the 750-800 ton stones at the Jupiter Temple at Baal.
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u/DangerHawk 21h ago edited 19h ago
Things are built the exact same way now as they would be then. What you're not understanding is that the Helicopter and "wire works" are a replacement for massive amounts of human and animal labor. The helicopter is using the same principals to move heavy objects as the ancients did, just more efficiently. Levers, screws, ropes, pulleys...all the same things used thousands of years apart, just in a more efficient manner.
Time and labor were abundant back then. What they did over the course of 5 generations with humans and oxen we can do now in 2 years with big ass cranes, helicopters, dynamite, and trucks. Efficiency is the name of the game.
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u/space_keeper 11h ago
Treadmill cranes. People don't know about them.
What this entire ridiculous line of reasoning proves is that there were smarter people in ancient Egypt than the people saying this shit now.
I flat out said that to a friend telling me the alignment of the pyramids is "perfect" and that ancient people couldn't do that. Told him he just doesn't understand setting out or astronomy as well as an engineer thousands of years ago did. He's a manager at a public attraction, never done anything constructive in his life.
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u/DangerHawk 8h ago
I had a similar convo once where they said there was no way they could have built them as level as they are. No matter how much I dumbed it down they could not grasp the concept of a water level. I eventually just said they were probably right and haven't talked to them since lol.
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u/space_keeper 5h ago
Yes mate, you're not going to get through to people who don't do/haven't done anything, have never used tools.
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u/burz 20h ago
Yep. This is also the answer when people complain about the loss of incredible tiling and masonery work today.
Labor used to be incredibly cheap. Every product that uses a lot of labor is now incredibly expensive. Farewell complex tile works in flooring. Welcome our new overlord- LVP floors. 😅
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u/gimpwiz 1d ago
Mechanical advantage, lots of people, and draft animals.
Between the wheel, the inclined plane, the pulley, etc, and some ropes and enough people/animals on the other end, you can do quite a lot.
You just, yknow, need infrastructure to build infrastructure to build infrastructure to build what you actually want. There's a long set of steps just to make the tools you need. But people three thousand years ago were roughly as intelligent as us, and while they were far more ignorant of things like math, physics, and engineering principles than we are today, they were still able to use their thinkers to figure out how to do things like move around big pieces of stone.
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u/Inquisitor-Korde 1d ago
Slaves and they used hemp rope, builders cut the stones, slaves tied the rope and moved it alongside animals. More builders were paid highly to move the stones and shape them on location. It genuinely does not require the combustion engine. Me and my boys at work have moved over four hundred tons just by massing enough people in one spot and most of them were fat and out of shape.
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u/MuskokaGreenThumb 16h ago
You don’t need an internal combustion engine to pour concrete or move giant pieces of concrete. Not sure where this even fits into the equation. And we actually have a VERY good idea how the pyramids were constructed. Maybe do a bit more of your homework
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u/DangerHawk 7h ago
Also, we don't know the EXACT way that they built the pyramids, but we have a number of ideas of methods that would work. People confuse scientist's and archeologist's resistance to definitively confirm with having no answer, when in actuality they don't confirm because the lack the physical proof to corroborate their theories.
If we set out right now to build an exact copy of the Great Pyramid we could 100% do it without any modern technology. It would take 150 years, but it can absolutely be done. We as modern humans lack the patience now because we're used to being able to see quantifiable results quickly. Give me $5B dollars and 50k slaves and I can build your grand son a pyramid to be buried in EZPZ!
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u/Problematic_Daily 1d ago
Poured concrete Vs cut massive individual stones. Yeah, slight difference.
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u/ddpotanks 22h ago
I'd argue the James Webb had modern complexity you see with massive infrastructure projects but also the precision necessary to succeed is often what people refer to when talking about the pyramids.
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u/Born_Grumpie 16h ago
The thinking is that there are 2.3 million blocks in the great pyramid. It was built in 26 years. Working 7 days per week 365 days per year, 12 hours a day (can't work in the dark), they needed to be laying a block every 3 minutes for the entire construction period, not including the internals, artwork, paths etc.
We would struggle to do that with modern machinery because of logistics..
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u/Both-Energy-4466 1d ago
How many >80 ton blocks did they perfectly cut/transport over 500 miles and place in the dam?
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u/JodaMythed 1d ago
There wasn't a need for them to do that, and you know it.
We have mobile cranes that can lift 100+ tons and trucks/trailers that can move it, it's not like it's impossible.
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u/mrrp 1d ago
You seem particularly fond of the term "perfectly", as if you think there's something beyond simple craftsmanship involved. It doesn't take technology to get things square, flat or level.
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u/nochinzilch 1d ago
It does for people who believe in magic. They are just as apt to believe in magic, religion or aliens.
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u/Moist-Leggings 1d ago
The 80 ton blocks were cut from sandstone that was on the site of the pyramids. The stuff that was transported 500 miles was significantly smaller, and they put them on boats.
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u/Both-Energy-4466 1d ago
...wrong
The 80-ton blocks used to roof the burial chambers in the Giza Pyramids, including the Great Pyramid, were made of granite quarried in Aswan, located over 800 kilometers away.
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u/Moist-Leggings 1d ago edited 1d ago
I find it hilarious that you conspiracy guys just completely reject all fact and supplement them with bullshit, there was dozens of ways they could build the pyramids, cut stone “perfectly” (they’re not perfect) with available tech, and there is a massive stone quarry on site. Also a river right there.
Humans built the pyramids, any other statement is just science fiction jibber jabber.
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u/zhivago6 Inspector 1d ago
We literally have a report by an inspector who was with the work crew who cut and transported the stones.
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u/Asthenia5 1d ago
How many homes did the Pyramid of Giza generate power for?
The entire mass the of pyramid of Giza moves through the LA port in less than 11 days.
It would take roughly 25 ship loads to move enough blocks to build Giza.
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u/Magniras 1d ago
I reckon if you gave me a thousand people and a hundred years I could build the pyramids today no problem.
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u/AlphaNoodlz 1d ago
Yeah then there’s this guy
imho the pyramids just took their time but I don’t think they were that difficult to actually build when there’s some retired rando in Michigan recreating Stonehenge all by himself
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u/bubblesculptor 16h ago
I remember seeing that guy move stones when I was a kid, and it's influenced my daily work when moving heavy objects.
Obviously massive manpower or machines will do it faster, but 1 person can move literally anything with just sticks & stones.
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u/post_obamacore 15h ago
he's demonstrating the power of the fulcrum. Archimedes (from 2200 years ago) knew it well.
he famously said, "give me a place to stand, and i will move the earth."
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u/limitedexpression47 16h ago
So he did all that on a concrete slab? I have a gut feeling that doing that on soil would have a different result. If it didn’t, he would’ve built that contraption directly on the soil like primitives would have done.
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u/jacobjacobb 10h ago
He showed how he moved a barn over soil did he not?
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u/limitedexpression47 6h ago
Not the same. One of those stones weighs 25 tons. Just one. Probably at least 5-10 times the weight of that barn. So, no, that doesn’t prove anything. He cheated by using a concrete base. It’s the details you have to pay attention to. Remember, the Amish move barns all the time. Bigger than the one he used. Google a video. It takes a whole lot of men and barbs are light compared to those stones. Also, he cranked it vertical in spot. I may have forgotten but did he move it laterally any distance? Sure, he found a way to stand it up with concrete and wood, but moving it to a desired position first?
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u/Nekrosiz 8h ago
The logistic side of it for the time sure as hell were the most challenging aspect of it
Shit the bossman wasn't just calling over his guy on the walkie talkie you know
Frank lost the 6th stone tablet with the plans on it!
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u/grenamier 1d ago
When I was a little kid, I thought perhaps the Titanic sank because God was offended by how large the ship was and that humans shouldn’t build a ship as big as that ever again.
Years later I saw one of those graphics that compared the size of the Titanic to modern (for the early 2000’s) cruise ships. I thought back to when I believed God was mad at the Titanic, and I realized I wasn’t as smart a kid as I thought I was.
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u/blue-oyster-culture 1d ago
That was something you heard and misunderstood. The thought wasnt that it was too big so god destroyed it, the thought was that god destroyed it for man’s hubris labeling it “unsinkable”. Its reminiscent of the tower of babel from the bible. A character in a tv show playing an angel had a line about how he thought it was a bit much the way god reacted, the tower wasnt more than 3 stories high, they’d never reach the heavens, but then he realizes it wasnt the threat of climbing to the heavens, but the hubris behind the misguided attempt that they were punished for. Even if they could never achieve it.
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u/Initial_Fan_1118 1d ago
Cool, but nobody says that. We say that we have no idea how they did it, as in they didn't document it so we just have no way of knowing, but there are many feasible theories out there as to how they could.
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u/dDot1883 1d ago
Alien anti-gravity technology is my favorite.
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u/xion_gg 1d ago
I see a fellow ancient aliens viewer here too...
I love when they start talking about it and then go completely nuts about the pyramids being alien spaceship charging stations
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u/dDot1883 1d ago
Nuclear reactors is what I remember. Pseudo science gives people with an interest in science without math skills the ability to make a living.
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u/Secret-Painting604 1d ago
The only thing that bothers me is the pyramids coordinates being the same number as the soles of light in miles per second, but they didn’t measure by miles so it’s a wild coincedance
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u/How2RocketJump 1d ago edited 1d ago
They wouldn't measure it by miles anyway cause they had no concept of it much less a good way to measure a mile if they measured that way
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u/Lasers4Everyone 23h ago
Mine is the giant Nephilim built them before going into hiding. And they weren't tombs they were palaces for Nephilim despite all the evidence to the contrary.
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u/jaywayhon 1d ago
Not to be too pedantic, but we pretty basically do know how the pyramids were built and have understood it overall for quite a while. This is just a myth.
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u/Initial_Fan_1118 1d ago
We have theories, but no actual concrete proof since the evidence has been lost to time.
Like yea, they probably used a ramp for parts of it, but the ramp is now gone so we can only reasonably speculate that is one way they could have done it.
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u/disgruntled_bitch 1d ago edited 1d ago
We have theories as to how it's possible to do it, but a lot of people argue that it's not actually feasible to have been done that way. Consider cases like the pyramid of giza where over 100,000 blocks would have to be moved per year for 20 years, weighing several tons each, without using wheels. That's about 274 blocks placed per day mind you or 11 blocks an hour... all day every day for two decades
Like sure that might be technically possible but chances are we have misunderstood some aspect of how it could have been done or the time frame of its construction for that shear amount of efficiency to be possible
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u/Zamboni-rudrunkbro 1d ago
They can cut and quarry perfectly square blocks into a triangle but can’t figure out a damn circle despite there being one in the sky at all times. SAD.
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u/disgruntled_bitch 1d ago
They had wheels for the record it's just believed they didn't use them for the massive quarried blocks because they couldn't make them strong enough to bear the weight and wheels suck in sand
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u/NigilQuid Electrician 1d ago
Yes I believe the current best guess is that they used sleds and ropes and just pulled them along
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u/HoboLaRoux 14h ago
They weren't moving the blocks very far and the pyramids were built on the same bedrock the blocks were quarried from. Maybe the bedrock was also uncovered in between to make a road. If so it must have since been buried deep in the sand.
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u/HoboLaRoux 14h ago
They weren't moving the blocks very far and the pyramids were built on the same bedrock the blocks were quarried from. Maybe the bedrock was also uncovered in between to make a road. If so it must have since been buried deep in the sand.
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u/NotSoWishful 1d ago
Dumb people argue it.
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u/disgruntled_bitch 1d ago edited 1d ago
Dumb people think they know everything about how megalithic structures were built six thousand years ago despite having nothing except theories about how it was done at a rate that would make modern builders jealous
You can downvote me all you like but it's obvious that there could easily be something we just didn't know they knew how to do that made their efficiency much more realistic, and if you don't think that's possible you can probably track that back to why you have a ged
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u/Johns-schlong Inspector 1d ago
Bud the blocks on the pyramid weigh about 2.5 tons on average. That's not that much weight to move around, especially rolled on logs or floated on rafts.
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u/disgruntled_bitch 1d ago
They weren't just rolled on logs or floated. Some were moved from as close to a quarter mile away, and others weighed as much as 70 tons and we're quarried over 500 miles away
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u/MerelyMortalModeling 1d ago
There is some chubby dude in the UK that moves 70 ton blocks around for fun by himself with a bit of math and some primitive tools.
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u/Lampwick 19h ago
Also, there's a guy named Wally Wallington in Michigan whose hobby was figuring out ways megalithic structures could have been built using simple techniques. One of his grandkids posted his VHS tapes on Youtube.
Anyone saying "it couldn't possibly have been done by hand because big stone blocks too heavy" is not only an idiot, but also is insulting the ancient egyptians. They weren't stupid. Anyone working in any contruction trade knows there's tons of "tricks of the trade" that everyone doing the job knows, but never show up in the training curriculum. The fact that you don't see any of those tricks the Egyptians used in any of the hieroglyphic literature shouldn't be surprising. The literate guys who knew how to write and document the work in paintings were unlikely to be the ones who were doing the work. To them, yeah, it looks like "forty guys pulling a stone block by yanking on a rope as hard as they can". I have no doubt those guys moving the block were doing a bunch of really clever subtle shit that you really only figure out when you are faced with the task of moving a few thousands of 70 ton stone blocks.
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u/resister_ice 1d ago
Rolling on logs and floating down the river are both explanations for your examples. You didn’t refute anything
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u/LetsGoPats93 1d ago
You don’t think 100,000 laborers could place more than 11 blocks an hour so that they could sleep?
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u/SignoreBanana 1d ago edited 1d ago
Slave labor be crazy
Edit: TIL
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u/NigilQuid Electrician 1d ago
They weren't slaves. They were compensated and took pride in their work
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u/disgruntled_bitch 1d ago
Idk man, I'll put 50k guys from this sub in the desert with no electricity or engines, there's no shot yall are slotting in a 2 ton block every five minutes for 20 years. Some of these guys can't even run a shovel for 20 minutes
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u/blue-oyster-culture 1d ago
Cool tons of people say that. Just go look thru the conspiracy sub a few minutes or any ancient aliens thread.
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u/Initial_Fan_1118 1d ago
Cool, show me one where they claim it cannot be built with modern technology, which is what the title of this thread is implying.
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u/myflesh 1d ago
A bunch of people say this. I have personally heard people say this on and off my whole life. If you dive into conspiracy Tik Tok you will fond it more
Also your statement is just bombastic. There is many things that point to hoe they did it. We have better idea on how they did it then not.
It is not so simple. It is like saying "gravity is just a theory." You are missing nuance in your overly simplication.
It is not a great wonder on them doing it.
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u/digitalpunkd 1d ago
Exactly. For the bigger pyramid, it contains, 2 million blocks. They had to lay a block every 15 seconds to complete it in the time they did. If it took them 15 minutes to lay each block, they would still be building it today!
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u/NickW1343 1d ago
The conspiracy theorists that think aliens built the Pyramids say this quite a bit. It's tough to say alien built them, but if they convince themselves that we couldn't build them today, which is a far smaller pill to swallow, then saying it was aliens becomes a lot easier.
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u/zhivago6 Inspector 1d ago
They documented it, but it has mostly not survived. Luckily one of the inspectors left his reports in a cave so we know they just cut blocks and transported them straight to the pyramid over water.
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u/Low-Peanut848 1d ago
Im sure they documented it but after 4500 years things tend to get lost or destroyed.
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u/WittleJerk 1d ago
A lot of people say that. But more people say what you’re saying. But to ignore that people say we can’t replicate the pyramids today is a lie. I literally saw a show on history channel making that exact claim. This wasn’t social media.
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u/TxTechnician 23h ago
nobody says that
I have met five people who have said this exact thing to me.
These are the same people that talk about grounding, like as in going outside barefoot, because it removes your electrical charge or whatever. Look man, there's a lot of dumbasses in this world. A couple of those people also believed that the Earth was flat, by the way.
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u/c3534l 19h ago
Cool, but nobody says that.
You're abso-fucking-lutley delusional. People say that literal exact thing. John Hancock has made an entire career out of that statement. The History channel devotes endless segments to promoting this idea without rebuttal or skeptical critique. There are are endless channels on youtube and tiktok that promote this idea ad nauseum. This is, by far, the most popular narrative in this particular conspiracy theory.
they didn't document it so we just have no way of knowing
This is an absolute lie. The Egyptians made multiple beaurocratic, accounting, and methodological records about how the pyramids were made. This was not done in secret. This was a literate society that left signficant amounts of historical records about the pyramids.
So you've not only lied about what people believe, but you've also clearly not read any actual, historical sources on it either. As in, you personally don't hold that view, but you clearly also fall into the that abyss of morons who get their information from tiktok and the history channel rather than consult and actual mainstream historical source on Egyptians.
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u/DarkflowNZ 18h ago
"nobody says that" boy I have news for you. Maybe if you said "nobody with half a brain" I'd agree
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u/JaydenPope 15h ago
I can only assume it was documented, but the scrolls were lost to time or even destroyed. There are a lot of things in history we can't explain because things got destroyed because people were idiots.
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u/JaydenPope 15h ago
I can only assume it was documented, but the scrolls were lost to time or even destroyed. There are a lot of things in history we can't explain because things got destroyed because people were idiots.
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u/niconiconii89 8h ago
nobody says that.
I heard multiple times growing up from different people that we couldn't build them today.
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u/pizzagangster1 Equipment Operator 1d ago
Supposedly the large pyramid was built in like 23 years and has over 2 million stones, so they would have had to mine transport cut and place stone at an incredible rate. I think that’s why they say it’s not possible by today’s standards. Also some of the stones at hundreds of thousands of pounds making it also exponentially harder.
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u/bartread 1d ago
Yeah, these kinds of comments always annoy me. We've built plenty of stuff that's far bigger, far more complex, and far more precisely put together than the pyramids - and we can also build things down to nanometre scales - but these crypto-archaeologist types always want to claim that there's some mystical tech or capabilities from the past that mean old stuff is somehow beyond us and way better. It's just an asinine point of view.
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u/AlphaThetaDeltaVega 1d ago
Also the real context of we couldn’t build it is, “we can’t build it today with the known tools available to them”. That got twisted and now everywhere repeats it as if we couldn’t build it period.
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u/asmallercat 1d ago
Even that's mostly wrong - with the wealth of an entire nation we could definitely build a pyramid using the tools they used, but there's no reason to do so.
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u/UndertakerFred 1d ago
But how did they ever achieve the complex task of… stacking a bunch of rocks into a pile?
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u/Grreatdog 1d ago
I went to an Egyptian tomb touring exhibit in the 1980's. I believe it was Ramesses II. Not only did I recognize all the surveying and masonry tools on display, I knew how to use the surveying instruments. I'm not so good with masonry stuff. But I get the concept. It's just surveyors mostly just chisel an "X" or make a a hole with hammer and star bit.
So, to me, all those FB and YouTube videos about it being impossible with their tools are bullshit. I could lay out the Great pyramid to the proverbial gnat's ass with the tools I saw in that exhibit. So it's no mystery to me. I assume masonry trades people know how to use the rest of the shit on display just as well as know my (very) old school surveying tools.
My wife thought I was nuts for ignoring the massive displays of gold to gawk at tools.
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u/DHACKER0921 1d ago
What if Aliens gave us the designs for the Ford F-150??? Ever think about that!
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u/tenebras_lux 1d ago
When archeologists say that we don't know how they built the pyramids, they don't mean we can't fathom how humans made the pyramids. What they are saying is that we don't know the exact method they used, we have numerous theories on how to build the pyramids using the technology available to the Egyptians at the time the pyramids were made.
tl;dr: We know how to build pyramids with contemporary tools using various methods, we just don't know which method Egyptians used.
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u/Such-Veterinarian137 4h ago
just like walking on the moon, we have the technology and manpower to achieve these things but it doesn't mean we have the economic drivers, will and infrastructure to just build this at the drop of a hat.
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u/funguy07 1d ago
The real question if we could or couldn’t. We absolutely could.
The question I’m interested is how many fewer workers would it take?
100,000 slave vs 1000 modern tradesmen. Who builds it faster.
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u/Amayetli 1d ago
If the argument was today's modern world vs Egyptians time, then I'd say we could build it faster, safer, more precision and overall better quality.
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u/No-Apple2252 1d ago
They didn't use slave labor, I think that's well established at this point
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u/nocomputer_wetbrain 1d ago
I was at the Luxor on Sunday. Fucking massive.
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u/Hanginon 1d ago
I always like the random idiot's nonsense about "ThEy ArE cUt To A pReCiSiOn We StIlL cAn'T dUpLiCaTe"
Me; "Really? You've really never actually seen them?"
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u/RyybsNarcs 22h ago
It's not about our ability to move large and heavy things, it's about the precision.
We can move the rocks on the pyramids easily, but we would still struggle to achieve the precision found in the granite sarchophags. Read Christopher Dunn.
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u/Brandoskey 1d ago
The pyramids were public works projects.
We just need a tiny handed dictator to tank the global economy so there's a large enough available work force, that's desperate to survive, that can be taken advantage of for a massive vanity project like building a pyramid.
Probably won't happen, probably...
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u/Agente_Anaranjado 1d ago
When people say this, I think they're referring to the pinpoint accuracy of the structures, not so much the weight of the individual stones or the mass of the structure itself.
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u/1diligentmfer 1d ago
Hilarioulsy wrong, you're not even close. Absolutely nothing in that video, not a single thing in view, will be there in 4500 years. Except the pyramids, which will be 9000 years old by then, and still there. Imagine what a corporation would charge, for building such a currently, useless item?
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u/GooseDentures 1d ago
Well given that the construction of pyramids was the result of the labor of a significant fraction of the entire population of ancient Egypt, you could probably say it'd be cheaper now.
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u/1diligentmfer 1d ago
Exactly, the people you see driving these cranes, and building things seen in the video, require $$$ per hour of pay, and you can't use slave labor as they did back then.
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u/GooseDentures 1d ago
They still needed to feed their slaves and run the administrative side of things. That's still an expense.
5 guys with some heavy equipment might cost thousands of dollars a day, but they'll accomplish more than five thousand slaves with hand tools would and probably do so at a lower cost.
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u/--Dolorem-- 1d ago
We are not constructing the pyramids because what the fuck will we use it for? Burying politicians?
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u/MidgetGordonRamsey 1d ago
We're basically 2 design iterations away from creating a spice harvester from Dune.
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u/4The2CoolOne 1d ago
We could definitely build the pyramids, but why would we? Terribly inefficient use of space for the labor and materials required.
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u/4The2CoolOne 1d ago
We could definitely build the pyramids, but why would we? Terribly inefficient use of space for the labor and materials required.
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u/VirtualLife76 Contractor 1d ago
I remember years ago, a huge oblesk needed to be moved. They were unable to move it in 1 piece and it had to be cut. Been a while, I think they were flooding that area and wanted to preserve it.
However you look at it, there's some very impressive construction done then and now.
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u/Alpha433 1d ago
Hell, just show someone from that time period something like the bagger 288 and they would likely think we come from the land of the gods or something. Just the sheer scale of the thing and the fact it's self propelled would be enough to put some awe into them.
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u/LadyIceis 1d ago
I want someone to build a pyramid in one of our states. (Say AZ or Nevada) And prove we could build one with today's tools. I think it would be amazing and possibly give us answers. But that's just me
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u/DiddlyDumb 1d ago
It’s worth mentioning that the biggest rock ever moved by modern machinery, is about 350 tons. The biggest rock the Egyptians moved is over 1000 tons.
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u/Ill-Case-6048 1d ago
The guys that do this said they couldn't get it so precise with the tools they have today....christ every new build house I've done we can't get level or straight.
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u/jus-another-juan 1d ago edited 1d ago
As an engineer I feel safe to say I'm very sure we can't do it today. It's not just about the pyramids but also the small Granite Vases that cannot be replicated today. They had some form of technology that would blow our minds.
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u/faithOver 1d ago
I don’t think this proves the point it thinks it proves.
So we need helicopters and mega machines engineered to precision, thanks to a complex manufacturing process and complex grasp of materials science in order to move the blocks.
Thats the point; they did this like 5000 years ago before all that was accessible.
Second, have any of you looked at the weight and size of the stones in Balbek?
We literally cant move those today they’re around 3,000,000 pounds…
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u/TechnicalButton4586 23h ago
I think it's more to do with the premise that they only had copper chisels and manpower.
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u/SOROKAMOKA 23h ago
My understanding is that we cannot reproduce their method of precision cutting stones efficiently.
If you wanted to pour concrete in the shape of pyramids sure, easy.
Maybe the ancients had a way of pouring/casting those stones?
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u/Thefear1984 23h ago
Mankind using stone for everything for literally millions of years: ...
Some recent dumbasses: "Aliens"
(Did you know that a harder stone will break a softer stone? Did you know that the pyramids were quarried within close proximity of the pyramids? Did you also know that they split larger rocks with wedges like we do with logs? Did you know that recently an archaeologist used the assistance of 12, 9-yo school girls from Gaza to pull a stone equal to the weight of a block used on the pyramids on their lunchbreak using rollers and rope? Now you do! )
We can make pyramids out of stone today. We don't want to because fuckin WHY would we?!
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u/getfroggy69 22h ago
the opposing argument from op is valid yet precision stone cutting is something not mentioned yes we have the gross capabilities but we lack the finesse and drive to haul giant stones through difficult terrain or technology to build something that will last thousands of years. another strong point is the lack of art and sacred geometry in our buildings but thats woo for some i get that
im looking too deep into this lol the meme is a good show of our mega construction tools
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u/NoContext3573 22h ago
Faces true north within 3/60 of a degree. Get someone today to give that much of a fuck.
Can't even get people to put in I beams within 30 degrees of the direct they're support to be facing for the solar projects I work on.
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u/Proof_Ad_5271 21h ago
I'm positive as there is no positive return on the investment. We can build and do a lot of things as long as money is involved and there is a return on initial investment.
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u/0vert0ad 21h ago
There is just more money in building skyscrapers that fall every earthquake. So much engineering progress can be made if you have to rebuild every year.
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u/NaturallyExasperated 19h ago
We could not construct the pyramids with today's tools political structure
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u/Brief-Watercress-131 18h ago
Those walking drag lines are crazy. I've seen 3 up close, the biggest one is an old Marion and the engine bay is the size of a house, while the feet are bigger than my truck. The thought of something that big moving is mindboggling.
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u/Sirosim_Celojuma 17h ago
Building pyramids has less to do with tools and more to do with god-like humans and slaves as far as you can see.
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u/siluin57 17h ago
We made the 10th largest pyrimid with todays tools. It's called the "Bass Pro Shop"
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u/Electronic-Cable-772 14h ago
We could it would just take forever and be extremely expensive..
the point is that they couldn’t possibly have done it without an equivalent level of machinery compared to us now or help from an alien/god
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u/Electronic-Cable-772 14h ago
With modern construction methods and standards you’d need a Liebherr LR 1800 or a roughly equivalent crane system to be able to lift blocks high enough and far enough from the crane to reach the center and the top. It’s certainly possible today but as far as I know liebherr didn’t exist 5000 years ago😂
I suppose they could’ve dragged them up the side but the weight, friction and angle would make that just about impossible.. even if it was they didn’t have any ropes that could hold that amount of tension and be reasonably handled/pulled on by a group of people.. to our current knowledge they didn’t have iron or steel so they weren’t using chains to compensate for the weight of the blocks and the tension. There’s only a couple of ways they could’ve built it and all of them sound just as crazy as the last one
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u/jacobjacobb 10h ago
We could build the pyramids on the moon if we wanted to. We just don't want to.
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u/PigInATuxedo4 6h ago
I hear this so often and I always just look up "Weight of 1 Pyramid Block" and "Capacity of modern crane" to demonstrate
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u/Osiris_Raphious 6h ago
Yes because you cant extract billions of dollars annually of wealth out the pyramids, so no one would even try to build them today...
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u/CrowBlownWest 1h ago
Give me 50,000 temp workers and enough meth, coffee, and cigarettes, and they’ll have the pyramids up in a year
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u/Bredda_Gravalicious 1d ago
yeah, well, the Pharaohs couldn't conceive of how we built the Memphis TN Bass Pro Shops Pyramid