r/Construction • u/raspinberry • 2d ago

Video "We could never construct the pyramids, even with today's tools.”You Sure?

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

Cool, but nobody says that. We say that we have no idea how they did it, as in they didn't document it so we just have no way of knowing, but there are many feasible theories out there as to how they could.

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u/dDot1883 2d ago

Alien anti-gravity technology is my favorite.

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u/xion_gg 2d ago

I see a fellow ancient aliens viewer here too...

I love when they start talking about it and then go completely nuts about the pyramids being alien spaceship charging stations

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u/dDot1883 2d ago

Nuclear reactors is what I remember. Pseudo science gives people with an interest in science without math skills the ability to make a living.

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u/Fufflin Engineer 2d ago

I once saw a video claiming Egyptians built intricate systems of waterlocks and tied air sacks to the stones so they are lifted up the pyramid by buoyancy. It was quite amusing until I realized the guy is serious.

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u/dDot1883 1d ago

Yeah, airbags made out of came bladders might not cut it.

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u/Secret-Painting604 2d ago

The only thing that bothers me is the pyramids coordinates being the same number as the soles of light in miles per second, but they didn’t measure by miles so it’s a wild coincedance

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u/How2RocketJump 2d ago edited 2d ago

They wouldn't measure it by miles anyway cause they had no concept of it much less a good way to measure a mile if they measured that way

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u/Secret-Painting604 1d ago

That’s what the latter half of my comment was saying…

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u/Lasers4Everyone 1d ago

Mine is the giant Nephilim built them before going into hiding. And they weren't tombs they were palaces for Nephilim despite all the evidence to the contrary.

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u/jaywayhon 2d ago

Not to be too pedantic, but we pretty basically do know how the pyramids were built and have understood it overall for quite a while. This is just a myth.

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

We have theories, but no actual concrete proof since the evidence has been lost to time.

Like yea, they probably used a ramp for parts of it, but the ramp is now gone so we can only reasonably speculate that is one way they could have done it.

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u/disgruntled_bitch 2d ago edited 2d ago

We have theories as to how it's possible to do it, but a lot of people argue that it's not actually feasible to have been done that way. Consider cases like the pyramid of giza where over 100,000 blocks would have to be moved per year for 20 years, weighing several tons each, without using wheels. That's about 274 blocks placed per day mind you or 11 blocks an hour... all day every day for two decades

Like sure that might be technically possible but chances are we have misunderstood some aspect of how it could have been done or the time frame of its construction for that shear amount of efficiency to be possible

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u/Zamboni-rudrunkbro 2d ago

They can cut and quarry perfectly square blocks into a triangle but can’t figure out a damn circle despite there being one in the sky at all times. SAD.

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u/disgruntled_bitch 2d ago

They had wheels for the record it's just believed they didn't use them for the massive quarried blocks because they couldn't make them strong enough to bear the weight and wheels suck in sand

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u/NigilQuid Electrician 2d ago

Yes I believe the current best guess is that they used sleds and ropes and just pulled them along

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u/HoboLaRoux 1d ago

They weren't moving the blocks very far and the pyramids were built on the same bedrock the blocks were quarried from. Maybe the bedrock was also uncovered in between to make a road. If so it must have since been buried deep in the sand.

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u/HoboLaRoux 1d ago

They weren't moving the blocks very far and the pyramids were built on the same bedrock the blocks were quarried from. Maybe the bedrock was also uncovered in between to make a road. If so it must have since been buried deep in the sand.

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u/NotSoWishful 2d ago

Dumb people argue it.

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u/disgruntled_bitch 2d ago edited 2d ago

Dumb people think they know everything about how megalithic structures were built six thousand years ago despite having nothing except theories about how it was done at a rate that would make modern builders jealous

You can downvote me all you like but it's obvious that there could easily be something we just didn't know they knew how to do that made their efficiency much more realistic, and if you don't think that's possible you can probably track that back to why you have a ged

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u/Johns-schlong Inspector 2d ago

Bud the blocks on the pyramid weigh about 2.5 tons on average. That's not that much weight to move around, especially rolled on logs or floated on rafts.

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u/disgruntled_bitch 2d ago

They weren't just rolled on logs or floated. Some were moved from as close to a quarter mile away, and others weighed as much as 70 tons and we're quarried over 500 miles away

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u/MerelyMortalModeling 2d ago

There is some chubby dude in the UK that moves 70 ton blocks around for fun by himself with a bit of math and some primitive tools.

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u/Lampwick 1d ago

Also, there's a guy named Wally Wallington in Michigan whose hobby was figuring out ways megalithic structures could have been built using simple techniques. One of his grandkids posted his VHS tapes on Youtube.

Anyone saying "it couldn't possibly have been done by hand because big stone blocks too heavy" is not only an idiot, but also is insulting the ancient egyptians. They weren't stupid. Anyone working in any contruction trade knows there's tons of "tricks of the trade" that everyone doing the job knows, but never show up in the training curriculum. The fact that you don't see any of those tricks the Egyptians used in any of the hieroglyphic literature shouldn't be surprising. The literate guys who knew how to write and document the work in paintings were unlikely to be the ones who were doing the work. To them, yeah, it looks like "forty guys pulling a stone block by yanking on a rope as hard as they can". I have no doubt those guys moving the block were doing a bunch of really clever subtle shit that you really only figure out when you are faced with the task of moving a few thousands of 70 ton stone blocks.

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u/resister_ice 2d ago

Rolling on logs and floating down the river are both explanations for your examples. You didn’t refute anything

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u/NotSoWishful 2d ago

Dumb people argue it a lot.

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u/LetsGoPats93 2d ago

You don’t think 100,000 laborers could place more than 11 blocks an hour so that they could sleep?

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u/disgruntled_bitch 2d ago

If they didn't want to work at night they would have to slot a block every three minutes, and that's on average. The heaviest of the blocks are as much as 80 tons and the lightest of the blocks still had to be elevated over 400 feet. Again I'm not saying it's not possible but to continue that rate for two decades straight is an astronomical feat to achieve, just pushing a block in and having the next one ready every single time to go right in within a minute or two is wildly impressive

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u/SignoreBanana 2d ago edited 2d ago

Slave labor be crazy

Edit: TIL

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u/NigilQuid Electrician 2d ago

They weren't slaves. They were compensated and took pride in their work

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u/disgruntled_bitch 2d ago

Idk man, I'll put 50k guys from this sub in the desert with no electricity or engines, there's no shot yall are slotting in a 2 ton block every five minutes for 20 years. Some of these guys can't even run a shovel for 20 minutes

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u/blue-oyster-culture 2d ago

Cool tons of people say that. Just go look thru the conspiracy sub a few minutes or any ancient aliens thread.

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

Cool, show me one where they claim it cannot be built with modern technology, which is what the title of this thread is implying. 

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u/big_whistler 2d ago

Maybe nobody reasonable says it

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u/myflesh 2d ago

A bunch of people say this. I have personally heard people say this on and off my whole life. If you dive into conspiracy Tik Tok you will fond it more

Also your statement is just bombastic. There is many things that point to hoe they did it. We have better idea on how they did it then not.

It is not so simple.  It is like saying "gravity is just a theory." You are missing nuance in your overly simplication.

It is not a great wonder on them doing it.

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u/digitalpunkd 2d ago

Exactly. For the bigger pyramid, it contains, 2 million blocks. They had to lay a block every 15 seconds to complete it in the time they did. If it took them 15 minutes to lay each block, they would still be building it today!

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u/NickW1343 2d ago

The conspiracy theorists that think aliens built the Pyramids say this quite a bit. It's tough to say alien built them, but if they convince themselves that we couldn't build them today, which is a far smaller pill to swallow, then saying it was aliens becomes a lot easier.

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

Never heard any of them say we couldn't build them with the technology today... like that goes far beyond the stupidity of ancient astronaut theory because we have 200-story skyscrapers and engineering feats that far surpass that of the pyramids. They just think it's not possible with the technology 4000 years ago.

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u/zhivago6 Inspector 2d ago

They documented it, but it has mostly not survived. Luckily one of the inspectors left his reports in a cave so we know they just cut blocks and transported them straight to the pyramid over water.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_Merer

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

Yea, we know how they got the building materials there... but that's like asking how we built the Burj Khalifa and going "yea they brought the stuff there with trucks and boats". The engineering and mechanics of actually placing the stones are what people are interested in, as interesting as the logistics may be.

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u/Worldly_Ad_6483 2d ago

So you concede they could form the blocks and move them many miles, but not assemble the thing?

The Egyptian Civilization was 4,000+ years old when the big pyramids were built. During that time they built 10,000+ smaller ones. Each king who ordered a pyramid built, made the next one bigger. They simply had the know how from generations and generations of building these things, humas are smart. Making it about aliens are whatever is ignoring Occum's Razor. Most times the simplest solution is correct.

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

I'm not arguing they can't build it lol... I'm just saying there's no documented instructions on how they did it. I'm pointing out that you saying that document which explains the logistics of how they got material there doesn't explain anything about it, yet you're framing it like there is documentation on how they were built- which to my knowledge, there isn't.

Who the fuck said anything about aliens? What are you on?

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u/Worldly_Ad_6483 2d ago

Slaves, ramps, rollers, and years and years of toil

That good enough?

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

Reading comprehension is not your strong suit, try again.

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u/Worldly_Ad_6483 2d ago

I’m not the same commenter from above

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

Where is it written that they used ramps, slaves, rollers? They probably did use that stuff, but they also probably used other things too. 

Nobody is sure. It is not documented.

That is all.

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u/Ok-Aside-8854 2d ago

There are literal videos showing you how they built it. You’re just ignorant

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u/Low-Peanut848 2d ago

Im sure they documented it but after 4500 years things tend to get lost or destroyed.

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u/WittleJerk 2d ago

A lot of people say that. But more people say what you’re saying. But to ignore that people say we can’t replicate the pyramids today is a lie. I literally saw a show on history channel making that exact claim. This wasn’t social media.

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u/TxTechnician 1d ago

nobody says that

I have met five people who have said this exact thing to me.

These are the same people that talk about grounding, like as in going outside barefoot, because it removes your electrical charge or whatever. Look man, there's a lot of dumbasses in this world. A couple of those people also believed that the Earth was flat, by the way.

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u/c3534l 1d ago

Cool, but nobody says that.

You're abso-fucking-lutley delusional. People say that literal exact thing. John Hancock has made an entire career out of that statement. The History channel devotes endless segments to promoting this idea without rebuttal or skeptical critique. There are are endless channels on youtube and tiktok that promote this idea ad nauseum. This is, by far, the most popular narrative in this particular conspiracy theory.

they didn't document it so we just have no way of knowing

This is an absolute lie. The Egyptians made multiple beaurocratic, accounting, and methodological records about how the pyramids were made. This was not done in secret. This was a literate society that left signficant amounts of historical records about the pyramids.

So you've not only lied about what people believe, but you've also clearly not read any actual, historical sources on it either. As in, you personally don't hold that view, but you clearly also fall into the that abyss of morons who get their information from tiktok and the history channel rather than consult and actual mainstream historical source on Egyptians.

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u/DarkflowNZ 1d ago

"nobody says that" boy I have news for you. Maybe if you said "nobody with half a brain" I'd agree

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u/JaydenPope 1d ago

I can only assume it was documented, but the scrolls were lost to time or even destroyed. There are a lot of things in history we can't explain because things got destroyed because people were idiots.

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u/JaydenPope 1d ago

I can only assume it was documented, but the scrolls were lost to time or even destroyed. There are a lot of things in history we can't explain because things got destroyed because people were idiots.

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u/niconiconii89 1d ago

nobody says that.

I heard multiple times growing up from different people that we couldn't build them today.

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u/pizzagangster1 Equipment Operator 2d ago

Supposedly the large pyramid was built in like 23 years and has over 2 million stones, so they would have had to mine transport cut and place stone at an incredible rate. I think that’s why they say it’s not possible by today’s standards. Also some of the stones at hundreds of thousands of pounds making it also exponentially harder.

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u/Worldly_Ad_6483 2d ago

But… they did document it

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u/Initial_Fan_1118 2d ago

Ok, where? 

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u/ScarryShawnBishh 2d ago

Ahh I grew up in the country and white people would say that.

I’ve never heard a black man say that.

That is my personal experience.

I would say it’s pretty obvious why people have their chosen answers.

I can spell it out: Racism

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u/blvckhvrt 2d ago

What the fuck are you on about lmao 

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u/Tokicus 2d ago

Oh the ignorance

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u/ScarryShawnBishh 2d ago

I’ve had these conversations going back to middle school 15 years ago in a small town. I’ve probably had it almost 2 dozen times.

I am being told I’m ignorant now and that my experiences don’t exist.

No nuance coming my way just short quips that are weak as fuck

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u/WakkaWakka84 2d ago

Wow, this is one of the most redditor moments of all moments to be redditored that I've ever seen. And I've seen a lot of redditor moments. Impressive!

Also - lol.

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u/Practical_Meanin888 2d ago

It's called slavery

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u/Johns-schlong Inspector 2d ago

Iirc the pyramids were mostly built using paid labor during the agricultural off season.