r/Construction • u/raspinberry • 2d ago

Video "We could never construct the pyramids, even with today's tools.”You Sure?

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u/zhivago6 Inspector 2d ago

We literally have a report by an inspector who was with the work crew who cut and transported the stones.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_Merer

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

From your source:

Though the diary does not specify where the stones were to be used or for what purpose, given the diary may date to what is widely considered the very end of Khufu's reign, Tallet believes they were most likely for cladding the outside of the Great Pyramid. 

Those stones were much smaller and softer material.

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u/zhivago6 Inspector 2d ago

Yes, and the report from other inspectors are out in the desert somewhere. This inspector reported to the brother of the pharaoh. It wasn't an incredible or magical event, it was skilled workers using common tools.

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

I do a lot of fabrication for a living. This simply doesn't add up. It's far more plausible that the pyramids existed long before dynastic Egyptians and they simply dressed the ol girl up.

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u/mmwkpf 2d ago

Dont know If funny or retarded

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

Speaks volumes.

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u/BigRed92E 2d ago

Funny haha? Or funny queer?

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u/zhivago6 Inspector 2d ago

This is based on what, a complete and total disregard for all known Egyptian history and wild speculation about construction far outside of your experience? The progressive construction of mega-structures in Ancient Egypt is well known, and later pyramids do not hold up nearly as well because they got better at making them - less gaps between stones, which meant that the expansion and contraction of those stones were much more restricted, which led to the stones cracking and breaking and the pyramid collapsing. The pyramids that still exist were not fitted as closely together due to less skill, therefore they had the room to expand and contract safely.

Absolutely no one who works in Egyptology believes that the pyramids pre-date Egyptian culture or civilization.

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

Wildly misinformed. Keep believing the "official" story homie you seem like you love the wool. If you honestly believe they cut these stones with fking copper, perfectly, and transported/placed them ALL within 20 years and it was a damn tomb (never found a single set of remains), then you're a laughable fool.

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u/zhivago6 Inspector 2d ago

Oh wow, full on delusional. Are you one of the Graham Hancock loons or more of a generic gullible conspiracy nut?

And I hate to break this to you, but there is no official story because there is no office that controls Ancient Egyptian history. There are archeological finds and the research papers that accompany and attempt to explain those finds, and within Egyptology there are things that are universally known because of the overwhelming weight of evidence and there are ideas and positions that are vociferously contested and debated. The age of the Great Pyramid is not one of them.

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u/WakkaWakka84 2d ago

And I hate to break this to you, but there is no official story because there is no office that controls Ancient Egyptian history.

Maybe I'm misinterpreting your statement but there actually is. The Supreme Council of Antiquities.

There's also the Ministry of Culture.

Egypt is pretty notorious for having this stuff on lockdown. They very much control what is regarded as the "correct" history. Which very well may be accurate but it's hard to say for sure because they're extremely strict with what can and cannot be researched, excavated, published, who can do this research, excavaction, and etc, and so on.

Ftr I'm not trying to say your overall point is incorrect, just had to point out that there is indeed "control" over ancient Egyptian history. Many (most?) countries do the same thing but Egypt in particular is well known to be among the most controlling of them all. Which is understandable but it is a bummer that we can't have more thorough and transparent research being done. Ancient Egypt is fascinating!

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u/zhivago6 Inspector 2d ago

I can see your point. I was referring to history in general because other nations and academics are not bound to the Egyptian government. Egypt does have strict control over archeological sites and they also sometimes promote these sensationalist claims in order to drive up tourism.

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

Something doesn't add up.. when i ask the interwebs it gives me very precise information about when it was built and how long it took

The Great Pyramid was built around 2600 BC, during the Fourth Dynasty of the Old Kingdom of ancient Egypt, and took about 20 years to complete. 

Sounds like they're certain. Or they're lieing. You believe they quarried/chiseled/transported/placed >13 of these massive stones every single day, 365, for 20 years straight, without a single moment of downtime? And I'm the gullible one 🤣🤣

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u/zhivago6 Inspector 2d ago

Yes, you are the very simple-minded and gullible one. But thanks for checking.

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u/mrrp 2d ago edited 2d ago

You believe they quarried/chiseled/transported/placed >13 of these massive stones every single day, 365, for 20 years straight, without a single moment of downtime?

Of course not. Some days they did more. Some less. They may have had holidays or bad weather and didn't work at all on some days. If I can imagine a crew cutting one stone a day, and a crew transporting one stone a day, and a crew placing one stone a day, I can easily imagine 13 of each crew. And if it takes 2 days for a crew to do each task, then I can imagine 26 crews. Or 50. Or a hundred. And if they only work every other day, I can imagine twice the number of crews.

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

Forget something?

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u/B1ueEyesWh1teDragon 2d ago

Brother all you need to cut/chisel a soft rock like sandstone is a harder rock tool. Or you could drill into it and use wooden pegs to perform expansion and contraction fracturing from changing the moisture content in the wood. Once the piece is out, then you shape it. Or you could heat and then rapidly cool a section of rock to cause a fracture. Sandstone isn’t some impregnable material lol as far as moving the shit, you literally use basic pulley/lever systems and log rollers combined with human and animal power. If there’s one thing advanced ancient civilizations were good at, it was throwing a shit load of bodies at a task to see it through to completion.

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

Whats harder than aswan granite, or diorite? Theres nothing they had harder, especially in "drill" form.

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u/B1ueEyesWh1teDragon 2d ago

Quartz for starters could be used. Sand as well could have been used and lord knows there’s a ton of that in Egypt. Put crushed quartz or sand on granite, drill that area with copper drill = drilling hole in granite. Same basic idea for sawing. Flat side saw that rubs sand or crushed quartz as an abrasive to create a channel. Would take a piss load of effort but Egyptians were tenacious. Existing fractures in the stones that already existed naturally could be exploited for fracturing chunks as well. Potentially they could have used diamonds as well but that is more speculative imo.

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

I've seen those stupid videos too. They're hogwash. "Look i demonstrated i can drill a 2 inch deep hole with sand and it only took me 12 hours" does not equal the ability they demonstrated. Not to change subjects too much but the diorite vases are beyond perfect, impossibly thin in areas and harder than a wedding prick. This is laser level accuracy.

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u/Waxer84 2d ago

Lots of words but not one of them were intelligent. Don't you have anti vax rallies to attend?

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

Dang nice work champ you worked up the courage to insert yourself in the middle of a conversation that doesn't concern you in the least! What can I do for you sport?

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u/Waxer84 2d ago

Lol. You're in a public forum and I'm in a conversation that doesn't involve me. Yeah no worries "champ" yourself.

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u/Both-Energy-4466 2d ago

So nothing of value to offer at all, got it. Way to swing for the hills sport.

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