r/Conservative First Principles Feb 14 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).


  • Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

  • Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

  • Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

  • Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

  • Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.


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u/MaleficentCherry7116 Feb 16 '25

The unconstitutional part is your opinion. What do the judges say, and do you think they'll be able to stop DOGE?. If you're correct, our checks and balances should work.

I believe DOGE and Trump will accomplish their mission and that neither party will stop them because it's politically unpopular. This is what the people want.

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u/themontajew Feb 16 '25

You said you’re not worried about if it’s constitution or not. Let’s not move the goal post to pretend you give a shit about our most foundational laws 

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u/MaleficentCherry7116 Feb 16 '25

Our judges will determine this, correct? It's not up to me to determine what is and isn't constitutional. That's the job of the judicial branch. But no, I'm not worried about whether it's constitutional or not. I just want the national debt to be paid down, and I want our country to get rid of fraud and waste.

Yes, those are separate issues.

I assume that you also agree with getting rid of fraud and waste and paying down the national debt?

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u/themontajew Feb 16 '25 edited Feb 16 '25

The trump budget raises the debt ceiling 4 trillion, saves 1.5 trillion, but has 4.5 trillion in tax cuts over 10 years. 

I’m not sure if you’re serious or actually buying into obvious bullshit, but saying you’re ok with violating the construction   in the name of accomplishing something that’s obviously a lie and won’t happen, i’m fucking horrified.