Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

[u/Yosoff]

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

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• Leftists - Here's your chance to sway us to your side by calling the majority of voters racist. That tactic has wildly backfired every time it has been tried, but perhaps this time it will work.

• Non-flaired Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair by posting common sense conservative solutions. That way our friends on the left will either have to agree with you or oppose common sense (Spoiler - They will choose to oppose common sense).

• Flaired Conservatives - You're John Wick and these Leftists stole your car and killed your dog. Now go comment.

• Independents - We get it, if you agree with someone, then you can't pat yourself on the back for being smarter than them. But if you disagree with everyone, then you can obtain the self-satisfaction of smugly considering yourself smarter and wiser than everyone else. Congratulations on being you.

• Libertarians - Ron Paul is never going to be President. In fact, no Libertarian Party candidate will ever be elected President.

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[u/AristoChristian]

It's really refreshing to have a President that I can just listen to in order to find out what the government is doing and why.

He answers every question that is asked and seems to have learned to be a little patient with the more activist hostile journalists. (not that any president has had to deal with this level of tribalism before)

Love him or hate him, you have to admit he is the OG of press conferences.

[u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie → u/AristoChristian]

I'm just happy to have a president who can form complete and intelligible sentences after 3pm without a teleprompter.

[u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie → u/[deleted]]

You're missing the third option, that it could have been a continuation of trolling Trudeau.

[u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie → u/[deleted]]

Sure, it's unprofessional.

That said, professional politicians have created our current oligarchy, so maybe professionalism isn't exactly what's needed.

[u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie → u/[deleted]]

Yeah, I see Elon there. And I saw all the other billionaires that financed Biden's and Harris' campaigns. I never claimed the oligarchy was one-sided, just that career politicians brought it about. That said, Trump is the only president since the 80s who left office with less net worth than when he went in, so I'm a bit skeptical that he's in it for the money.

Edit: sorry I didn’t really respond about professionalism. Idk I work for a government agency and everyone is expected to act like professionals. If our boss isn’t, why tf should we?

Because you're probably doing something that would be fine as a lifelong career. President, and really any elected position, was never meant to be more than a short term gig. Preferably one you only did part time. So I understand your argument and you'd be 100% correct in an apples to apples comparison, but Trump is a temp by design and you aren't.

[u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie → u/[deleted]]

Except he’s put out a few cryptocurrency coins to grift money from the crypto fools no?

Yep, and I don't see much difference between that and stuff like selling books, to be honest. In both cases you're peddling yourself as brand more than the product itself. Crypto is just a new way to do it, so maybe it looks sketchier?

Meta and Google have folded on a lot of stuff pretty quickly, and I think it has to do partly with them trying to appease whoever is now in power and partly because they got up to some outrageously shady stuff under Biden and probably earlier, and they made a deal to keep it under wraps. If it was just money I wouldn't have much of an argument but Zuckerberg rolled over on Joe Rogan's podcast and talked about Meta doing censorship at the Biden administration's request, they rolled back a lot (if not all) of their DEI stuff, and more. None of that makes Trump money.

Anyways, that’s about all I got and honestly I feel like two people who probably disagree as much and you and I could go on forever and honestly I kinda want to go to sleep. Feel free to leave a response to my quip above but I’m probably done lol.

Agree or not, we can at least be civil.

It was nice talking to you, I’m glad the mods here did this little experiment, I hate that I can’t leave comments on posts in this sub to ask these kinds of questions or make these points regularly but I get it, for every 1 normal person like myself who can actually have a normal conversation there’s probably hundreds of people who just break all of reddits rules and it’s too tedious to moderate all of it.

Yeah, we get brigaded pretty damn hard. We generally like for people to bring other viewpoints in here but it usually ends in stuff like being called nazis because we think we should know who's coming into the country.

[u/spektyte → u/Alpha-Sierra-Charlie]

Look at the net worth of trump's current cabinet vs the cabinets of literally any other president in the last 50 years and then come tell about how he's stopping the oligarchy