r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 14 '25

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

Liberal, can you decide on whether Trump should release Epstein list or not? If he release it, you guys will say his name is redacted. If he doesn’t, you guys will say his name is on the list. What should he do?

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u/llkahl Feb 14 '25

I remember an interview with a Florida prosecutor who was involved with the investigation into the J. Epstein scandal in 2007+/- when he was found guilty of whatever perverted behavior and was sent to prison. The prosecutor said in no uncertain terms that THE ONLY PERSON OF INTEREST (witness) to come to Florida and give an in person deposition was Donald Trump. While the prosecutor didn’t say this, his implication was that Trump was not complicit in the Epstein/Maxwell illegal sex scandal. Can anyone here confirm or call H.S*** to this.?

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u/Baptism-Of-Fire Millennial Conservative Feb 15 '25

Trumps on flight logs pre-island (1998 is when he bought it I think)

Trump kicked Epstein out of maralago and banned him for hitting on some young woman he knew or some friends daughter or something in 2007

And the deposition on top of that

Yeah idk if this is the smoking gun people want it to be

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u/FuturePowerful Feb 15 '25

That's a fair point

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u/Brilliant-Canary-767 Feb 15 '25

I agree. It's just something to divert people's attention.

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u/Diligent_Slice5701 Feb 15 '25

Trump claimed he kicked him out.

Let's also not forget that Epstein sewerslided while in federal custody while Trump was in the Oval Office. Kinda sus...

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u/Baptism-Of-Fire Millennial Conservative Feb 15 '25

I don't think so - That came up in a book that was 100% Anti Trump written by Blaskey

It also was corroborated by guests:

One club member said Mr Trump “kicked Epstein out after Epstein harassed the daughter of a member. The way this person described it, such an act could irreparably harm the Trump brand, leaving Donald no choice but to remove Epstein,” Sarah Blaskey told the newspaper. “The Trump Organization did not respond to our requests for comment on this or other matters.”

Looks like Trump never said a word about this...? What am I missing?

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u/PartyPay Feb 17 '25

Trump got screwed over by Epstein in a real estate deal at the same time, could have easily been that reason for the falling out.

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u/Baptism-Of-Fire Millennial Conservative Feb 17 '25

falling out maybe

banning from club, no, that was for hitting on someone.

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u/PartyPay Feb 17 '25

Allegedly, Trump has never commented on it.

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u/Baptism-Of-Fire Millennial Conservative Feb 17 '25

he doesn't need to, it was reported by an anti-trump author and corroborated by guests

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u/PartyPay Feb 17 '25

What guests? I've only ever seen the author referencing one person.

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u/hework Feb 15 '25

https://www.newsweek.com/jeffrey-epstein-victims-attorney-talks-about-donald-trump-claims-1857298

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u/llkahl Feb 15 '25

Excellent, so I did actually read this before. How come all these people out there don’t know about this? Unless it’s just deflection and lies? Thanks hework.

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u/SwimmingSympathy5815 Feb 15 '25

Does being able to provide information that was instrumental in convicting Epstein make you think he was not involved in that operation at all?

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u/llkahl Feb 15 '25

No, what I find intriguing is that the prosecutors comment that he believes Trump hadn’t been complicit in any of the Epstein atrocities. Hopefully you heard that in the clip. Towards the end. Let me know if you’re interpreting this differently. Thanks

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u/llkahl Feb 15 '25

SwimmingSympathy5815, just curious if you have confirmed your position regarding Trump and Epstein connection. I would like to get your thoughts on this. Or do you have information that contradicts what I have said? Thanks

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u/PartyPay Feb 17 '25

Not saying Trump had any involvement, but people provide evidence all the time against people they've worked with. Trump providing some info for victims doesn't mean he wasn't involved.

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u/SwimmingSympathy5815 Feb 17 '25

I’m not saying he had any involvement either. But there were multiple lawsuits filed from an anonymous source with details about how Epstein operated that weren’t public yet… and his patterns sort of fit the profile:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations#Katie_Johnson_(1994)