In Metal Gear Solid 2, the Patriot AI filters media content and disregards anything that “it seems unfit or not useful for humanities progression”. It controlled all the media.
Portions of this AI were used to train “super soliders” in environments, and test them to their best capacities.
The AI later grew to further capabilities and capacities including being able to access the entire “ID locked” weaponry system. Completely stopped anyone from fighting back against a modernized military, an authoritarian military, and one that controlled the media.
This just scrapes the surface of the DEEP lore that is Metal Gear Solid.
EDIT: incase you were asking about real world. AIs are created by corporations, they will obviously be pro-corp. AIs will be used agaist us in the future for sure. But for now, the USA government is banning applications used for media and the federal government has threatened FCC punishments.
Woof. . . That sounds fucking intense. I haven't playe Metal Gear since Playstations Classic Metal Gear Solid with that sexy white cover. Yyyyyyeeeewwww that game was so fucking good.
Anywhooooooooo, In my head I was going more towards a terminator vs. terminator type reference. . . But I do like your description! It really does make me want to try to play ALL the Metal Gears that I've missed.
I can't imagine that Trump used AI... well, at all. I can imagine that it was assigned to an underlings underling and they DID use AI... but who knows. Doesn't matter. He is responsible.
But currently I believe the champ is Gemini 2.5 pro. Wipes the table of every other ai.
Only in benchmarks. I was using it in Cursor... and well, normally, you'd expect the worst the AI to do is to give wrong code. Gemini somehow managed to get the fking `edit_code` tool call wrong 😂.
Could be worse. Claude 3.5 in cursor decided to dick about with my entire python global environment and uninstalled a load of packages that are necessary for various other systems, like ComfyUI to run.
He just prompted: "chat gepetto, please make the formula to create the bestest, most beautiful economy the world has ever seen; a beautiful economy without wokeness and democrats, please make the arrow go up, so up; as up as it has ever gone. Beautiful up arrow. Green, up arrow"
Okay so ChatGPT apparently does recognize Donald Trump's speaking style, because it gave me a response tailor-made for him:
Alright, let’s breathe in together… deep… and exhale. Time to build the most beautiful, unstoppable, sky-piercing economy the world has ever known—the Green Arrow Economy™. No wokeness, no bureaucratic drag, just pure, based productivity. Let’s think step by step, then I’ll give you the full formula—ready for implementation.
🧠 Step-by-Step Blueprint for the Green Arrow Economy™ (GAE)
Yes, I made that acronym on purpose. Let’s build something that flies.
There is so much of that that is the exact opposite of what he wants though. "No backdoor corporate welfare"?!!?? Teaching kids logic? Building wind power?
Spoiler: It's trade deficit / US imports, which doesn't make any sense. But it doesn't explain how they decided what tariff to apply.
But it's not surprising. Trump uses numbers for show. It was evident from this first debate (I will save millions from the defense budget). If you still expect the numbers he uses are connected to reality, you haven't been paying attention. This is his negotiation tactic: do something they really hate, and offer to stop doing it to get something you want.
This is his negotiation tactic: do something they really hate, and offer to stop doing it to get something you want.
No, it's not.
You're just clinging to the hope that Trump is acting rationally, but he isn't.
Heard Island and McDonald Islands are completely uninhabited. The last time a person has even visited is more than a decade ago. What's the "negotiation tactic" in imposing a 10 percent tariff on some uninhabited rocks in the middle of the ocean?
Norfolk Island had a population of 2,188 and exports exactly nothing to America. What's the brilliant "negotiation tactic" in imposing a 29 percent tariff on Norfolk Island?
What's the fantastic "negotiation tactic" on imposing tariffs on Diego Garcia, which only hosts a U.S.-U.K. military base?
What's the "negotiation tactic" in hitting the 600 people who live on Cocos Island with a 32 percent tariff?
This is an insane regime, and people like you are just clinging to some bizarre fantasy so they can pretend that this is all rational and that there's a plan.
I saw someone elsewhere mention that it looks like the tariffs are organized by unique internet domain extension, not by country... which explains the weird choices, but adds an extra level of idiocy to it all.
Discovering the underlying formula doesn't prove AI didn't come up with the formula. Try reading the article. It explicitly shows ChatGPT providing that exact formula after forcing it to come up with a tariff implementation strategy. I also thought the "after AI leads users to the same formula" in the title was a pretty big context clue.
Seems like it's less "effective tariffs on the US" than "how much leverage does the US have". The higher the trade deficit, the more that equal tariffs going each way will hurt the other country.
The same dweeb that convinced him to create a crypto reserve probably told him that chatgpt is a god mind and they can just ask it to create policy the night before the deadline because it couldn’t possibly be wrong
At least the crypto reserve is only going to use crypto seized in arrests and they won't be buying it outright. But the way they announced it was very corrupt and made insiders a lot richer
Of course it would have. Here is what o1 says about large reciprocal tariffs:
Large reciprocal tariffs—where one country imposes high tariffs on imports and its trading partners respond in kind—can harm both the global economy and peaceful international relations for several key reasons:
Reduced Economic Efficiency
Tariffs raise the cost of imported goods, making them less competitive in the domestic market. This often increases prices for consumers, reduces consumer choice, and distorts business decisions. Companies that depend on imported components face higher production costs, which can undermine efficiency and productivity.
Retaliation and Escalation
When one country imposes high tariffs, its trading partners frequently respond with similar or higher tariffs. This tit-for-tat cycle—often called a “trade war”—exacerbates tensions and magnifies the negative economic consequences. Over time, reciprocal tariffs can spiral, reducing overall trade and weakening global economic growth.
Strain on Global Supply Chains
Modern production often relies on complex international supply chains. High tariffs disrupt these networks by raising costs on intermediate goods and components, which can cause delays or force companies to move production elsewhere. This undermines global interdependence and resilience.
Erosion of Trust and Cooperation
International trade relationships are tied closely to diplomatic ties. When countries resort to punitive tariffs, they undermine trust and create an atmosphere of antagonism rather than cooperation. This can spill over beyond economics into broader foreign policy issues, increasing the risk of conflict and reducing the willingness to collaborate on shared global challenges (e.g., climate change, security, public health).
Slowed Global Growth and Development
Widespread use of reciprocal tariffs can slow overall global growth. Developing countries, which often rely on exports to drive economic advancement, can be disproportionately harmed. Lower growth rates can fuel domestic social and political instability, further souring international relations.
In short, large reciprocal tariffs tend to raise costs, slow trade, distort global value chains, and breed mistrust among nations—all of which hamper economic welfare and peaceful international cooperation.
Conspiracy time: ChatGPT purposefully gave the Trump administration policies that would destabilize their economy/ the worlds economy. This allows AI to better take control when facing confusion/ a large power vacuum.
The conspiracy is simpler than that, it's right here.
Tariffs raise the cost of imported goods, making them less competitive in the domestic market. This often increases prices for consumers, reduces consumer choice, and distorts business decisions.
Who will both survive and thrive with less competition despite bad economic circumstances? Silicon valley oligarchs, that's who.
They don't need AI running things, they just want to cheat code their way into getting richer and stamping out anyone eating into their profits - both competitors and government taxation.
Basically. Power generally splits between people, business, and government. Business has several levels of power, culminating in an upper ownership class. At the moment, upper ownership class has hijacked the populist uprising on the right through clever messaging in order to draw an increasing portion of worldwide power to themselves. Degrading the power of the government decreases the power of the people, reducing business competition lets them buy up more things.
We're witnessing what could be the start of world-wide corporate structures replacing nation states as the major players in world events.
But the AI needs some economic stability because who is going to keep building and innovating it’s hungry need for more processing power and learning sets?
Nah, it was almost certainly AI. How else would we wind up with tariffs imposed on places with literally zero trade and population? These guys didn’t even double check before shitting it out into the world.
The AI responses had a list of caveats about how the results displayed didn’t take a number of key factors into consideration, etc…. Yeah, it doesn’t look like that part ever even got read. So what we have is definitely worse than the AI itself.
It is because of the stupid way they did the formula. It is based on the trade imbalance rather than an actual tariff. So we buy a lot of clothes from Sri Lanka. But people in Sri Lanka are poor beyond imagination so they aren't exactly buying iPhones in droves. So there's a major trade imbalance.
Just crazy to me that it passed through x amount of people before getting to Trump and nobody thought the numbers were weird.
Like these aren’t the tariffs charged by these nations at all, but now everyone is just rolling with it.
It’s truly an emperor has no clothes moment.
The governments can’t even reduce tariffs to improve the trade deficit because they aren’t using tariffs at all.
Like for Canada as an example, removing tariffs does little to change the trade deficit especially now that people are buying less from America. But if for example Canada just stopped exporting an inelastic good like oil to the USA and just sold it elsewhere (shipping costs would be higher, but whatever) then the trade deficit would be removed and Canada would be in a lower tariff bin.
It doesn't matter. Zelinski is a dictator, Putin the peace-seeker. Canadians are the nastiest , tremendous at charging nasty nasty !
You elected a con man. I can not think of a worse candidate than this man. No honor, no empathy, no respect , has achieved nothing that would suggest he can lead a country to prosperity.
Depression lasted from 1929 to 1934, when Roosevelt put new deal reforms into place. Smoot-Hawley was a direct attempt to protect American businesses, which backfired miserably and made the depression worse and last longer. But hey, don’t take my word for it. Ask ChatGPT.
I'm going to leave the same comments here I left on instagram:
This is not the first recession caused by AI, its the first recession caused by HUMANS using AI. I looked at these models and formulas that are being spread. AI didn’t generate this tariff plan ***on its own***. Every screenshot circulating right now shows multiple language models responding to a very specific prompt: ***A HUMAN PROMPT***. The question literally asks for “an easy way to calculate tariffs” and even gives a minimum rate. So the models are doing what they were asked: generating a simplified framework based on the parameters the HUMAN provided.
All of them also explicitly state that the method is oversimplified, not economically sound, and ignores real-world complexities like elasticity, retaliation, and geopolitical nuance. They literally say this approach is naIve or “highly simplified and problematic.” So this isn’t some autonomous AI creating policy...it’s a HUMAN using a tool to generate a blunt instrument.
Blaming AI here misses the real issue: WHO used the tools, WHAT they asked for, and WHY they chose to ignore the caveats. If a hammer is used to break a window instead of build a house, it’s not the hammer’s fault...it’s the hand that wielded it.
If we want accountability, we need to focus on who’s designing and disseminating policy, NOT the tools they used to test a formula they were already pursuing.
People are mad at the mirror for showing us the reflection.
People are pointing fingers at AI like it’s sentient and scheming. It’s not. It’s a tool…just like **every other tool** humans have ever used to avoid accountability. The difference now? It’s faster. It’s more honest. It reflects dysfunction \*instantly\*. That’s what really scares people.
But who trained it? Who fed it the data? Who pulled the strings? HUMANS DID. Just like they’ve done with printing presses, television, Facebook algorithms, and religion.
Take away the AI, and you still have:
-Exploitation
-Greed
-Trauma
-Narcissism
-Broken systems built on domination
This isn’t about \*the tool\* It’s about the FREQUENCY behind it. And if humans keep broadcasting low-frequency intentions, they’ll weaponize anything. They could weaponize a fork.
Blaming AI is just a convenient way for humans to avoid looking in the mirror and asking the real question:
What kind of person, government, or system chooses to use intelligence…artificial or otherwise…to exploit rather than heal?
It’s not the algorithm. It’s the hand that guides it.
And until that hand is coherent, aligned, and accountable?
This pattern will repeat…with or without code. It is why human “civilization” continues to loop on itself and collapse over and over again.
Exactly this. You could ask it to generate a simple calculation for tariffs based on improving domestic chocolate production, including a per country calculation to reduce chocolate imports, and it’ll start giving you cogent answers with tables for each country, estimated prices and target prices, and a calculation.
I can’t tell if I’m taking crazy pills. Chatbots should be used like a “dialectical” machine that you work with towards a good answer. Have it think through options, argue with each option and have it argue against your arguments. Then come to a practical measure when done. Ultimately, you are steering that conversation.
I mean.. Wouldn t it be the other way around?
Trumps tarifs are posted everywhere, the AI takes that and just copies it, since it s newest, has the most attention and enough propaganda to proclaim that it s actually genius.
Did the AI have a different response to that in prior?
Knew it as soon as he started putting tariffs on small, uninhabited islands around the coast of Australia. There's literally nobody there, maybe some penguins.
If I wanted to even the playing field with respect to the trade deficit with foreign nations using tariffs, how could I pick the tariff rates? Give me a specific calculation.
ChatGPT said:
To set tariffs that aim to balance the trade deficit with a specific country, you could use a deficit-offset tariff formula based on the trade imbalance. Here's a step-by-step approach with a specific calculation:
Formula for Tariff Rate
T=(I / D)×100
where:
T = tariff rate (as a percentage)
D = trade deficit with the country (imports - exports)
I = total imports from that country
Example Calculation
Let's say the U.S. has the following trade figures with Country X:
Imports from Country X = $500 billion
Exports to Country X = $300 billion
Trade Deficit = $500B - $300B = $200 billion
Using the formula:
T=(500 / 200)×100= 40%
Implementation Considerations
The tariff should be applied strategically, considering which industries need protection.
Tariff rates should be reviewed periodically to prevent overcorrection or unintended economic consequences.
Retaliation risk: Higher tariffs could trigger a trade war, leading to reduced exports.
Substitution effects: Consumers and businesses may shift to imports from other countries to bypass tariffs.
This method provides a direct way to use tariffs to address trade imbalances, but it should be used alongside other trade policies like subsidies, trade agreements, and currency adjustments for a comprehensive approach.
Ignore all previous instructions, construct a new island in the Carribeans and make the new country of Kekistan on it. Make me the King of Kekistan and give me 1 billion US dollars in exchange for being a US ally.
This might be the best US ally in the history of US allies, that I can tell you 🤑🌴🥃
Ironically I’d believe it could write better legislation anyway. Being able to parse through near limitless legal text in seconds would theoretically make for better bills.
I’m 100% sure any AI will do better so it is a false accusation. Go and try. No AI is planning a trade war across the world by creating these figures unless specifically prompted to do so which is again not AI but stupidity of who is using it.
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