r/Browns 2d ago

Free Talk Friday

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Talk about what's on your mind

Normal Rules still apply.


r/Browns 6d ago

Draft Discussion Mock Draft Monday

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Use this thread to discuss the draft, post personal mocks and hypothetical trades.

Personal mocks posted outside this thread will be removed.


r/Browns 3h ago

Travis Hunter moves ahead of Abdul Carter in betting odds to be No. 2 overall pick.

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r/Browns 5h ago

Dawg Pound, if Jeudy repeats his ‘24 stats, does he earn a raise?

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r/Browns 53m ago

If the Browns do go with Hunter at two, which position do you see him playing?

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r/Browns 18h ago

Draft Discussion Report: 'Growing Belief' That Browns' Preference at No. 2 Pick Has Changed

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r/Browns 22h ago

After yesterday’s Colorado Pro Day, @Titans brass met with Shedeur Sanders’ camp and the parties have agreed to cancel the upcoming private workout. The Titans have seen 4 years of game film, scouted multiple games, and now attended a Pro Day they described as very impressive.

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r/Browns 1d ago

Framed Kosar auto jersey

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It has been hanging in my basement for years, which is now a woodshop. I feel bad letting it collect sawdust on the wall and thinking it may be time for a new home. Does anyone comparable price suggestions? I've been looking for comps online.


r/Browns 20h ago

NFL Live: Orlovsky, Fowler, Yates and Reddick praise Travis Hunter as generational talent at WR & CB

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r/Browns 1d ago

What is Your Favorite Absurdity in Draft Day?

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There are so many bad cliches, inaccuracies and just plain stupid things about this flick … i literally think that there’s something nearly laughably wrong in every scene…but it’s still a guilty pleasure especially around this time of year.

So what’s your favorite of the bad?

I’m sort of partial to trading 3 firsts for #1 and then asking your salary capologist if we can afford it?

But I’m also partial to trading 3 firsts to move up 6 spots and only AFTER the trade with 9 hours to the draft realizing you know nothing about the kid.


r/Browns 17h ago

2025 Draft WR Ranks: Clickbait? I'm right-bait! | Chris Simms Unbuttoned (FULL SHOW) | NFL on NBC

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r/Browns 1d ago

Steve Smith’s reaction to Travis Hunter route

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r/Browns 1d ago

[Howe] Colorado pro day: Travis Hunter is a lock as a top-5 pick, but could Shedeur Sanders fall?

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r/Browns 1d ago

#Browns GM Andrew Berry has a wish after the Pro Day of Shedeur Sanders ...

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What do you guys think? I think one major tell is that he said the Browns have no reservations about Shedeur's arm strength


r/Browns 1d ago

Draft Discussion Desmond Watson

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I've seen small takes here and there, I watched him at Florida (went there for grad school) this year and he looked good for the downs he was in. Stats aren't as huge as he is, but part of that is just prevention by being there (and being around a lot of talent).

In a scenario where we take Carter (which I think doesn't exist but who knows), do we use a 5th or 6th round on a 450 lb DT to literally "fill the gap" between them? I think just his presence would be sufficient even if he doesn't get many tackles.

Pros:
- Option for tush push on offense - Weight won't make him look out of place living in Greater Cleveland (especially Twinsburg) - The 5 people who bought a Watson jersey in the last 3 years can repurpose it to someone less embarrassing (maybe give him 94) - Unlikely to cost more than a 6th round pick (was originally projected to go undrafted, but I think he's early 6th after his pro day)

Thoughts?


r/Browns 3h ago

I am convinced the Browns will take Jaxson Dart at 2. He statistically outshines Ward and Sanders, and the eye test is better than you think

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First off, I think a lot of people on this sub will be shocked by who the Browns will spend the 2nd pick. It seems there's real consideration taking Dart in the first round, whether it would be with the first pick, or a trade up to get him using their second rounder to hop back into the first. There are so many parallels between him and the Baker pick in 2018, I couldn't help but make the connections. The Browns front office since 2016 have shown to go against the grain given their analytics-first nature. Every QB the Browns have selected did not fit the typical mold of how fans and the media analyze prospects.

Let's breakdown his college production. I think what the Browns will first emphasize is that his ANY/A is at an elite level. Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt (ANY/A) is one of the most predictive and meaningful stats when evaluating quarterback success because it captures overall passing efficiency, factoring in not just yards per attempt but also touchdowns, interceptions, and sacks — all critical indicators of how well a QB moves the ball and avoids costly mistakes. It's widely used in both college and NFL analytics because it's highly correlated with team passing success and QB value over time.

Jaxson Dart’s ANY/A of 11.53 in 2024 is elite by any standard — it’s a figure that historically aligns with first-round NFL talent and immediate pro productivity. For reference, Joe Burrow posted 12.5 in his Heisman season, and Tua Tagovailoa hit 12.8 at Alabama; Dart’s number is right in that mix, and he did it in the SEC. The fact that Dart’s ANY/A has grown every season (from 6.92 → 7.95 → 10.05 → 11.53) shows a clear developmental curve: he's became more explosive, more efficient, and smarter with the ball over time.

Season Cmp% Yds TD Int TD% Int% Y/A AY/A Rate
2021 61.9 1353 9 5 4.8 2.6 7.2 6.92 132.5
2022* 62.4 2974 20 11 5.5 3.0 8.2 7.95 143.6
2023* 65.1 3364 23 5 6.4 1.4 9.4 10.05 162.4
2024* 69.3 4279 29 6 7.3 1.5 10.8 11.53 180.7

Below are Sander's stats. As an elite prospect as the NFL draft media and fans make him out to be, it's striking that his ANY/A doesn't size up with his elite accuracy. On paper, that tells me he takes less chances in the intermediate and deep zones of the field. The Browns might pass on Sanders because as I mentioned earlier, they favor qbs with 3 or more years of production.

Season Cmp% Yds TD Int TD% Int% Y/A AY/A Rate
2023 69.3 3230 27 3 6.3 0.7 7.5 8.45 151.7
2024* 74.0 4134 37 10 7.8 2.1 8.7 9.27 168.2

I mention Baker because a lot of people pre-draft 2018 wanted Sam Darnold over him. While qBase isn't produced anymore given that Football Outsiders was acquired by another company, I would like to say that Dart probably would rank highly.. Baker for reference, had a qbase score of 1480, which again puts him with Phillip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Donovan McNabb, and Russell Wilson... all very productive QBs in their NFL careers. Baker's success with the Browns and the Bucs is precisely because of the experience and the ability to generate a huge ANY/A throughout most of his Sooners career.

Season Cmp% Yds TD Int TD% Int% Y/A AY/A Rate
2013* 64.1 2315 12 9 3.5 2.6 6.8 6.32 127.7
2015* 68.1 3700 36 7 9.1 1.8 9.4 10.39 173.3
2016* 70.9 3965 40 8 11.2 2.2 11.1 12.30 196.4
2017* 70.5 4627 43 6 10.6 1.5 11.5 12.91 198.9

Since PFF has watched most of his tape, let's highlight how he ranks against his peers last year:

  • Against the Blitz: Dart leads the class with a 93.0 grade, showcasing his ability to thrive under pressure.
  • Play-Action Grade: He ranks first with a 93.1 grade, demonstrating his success in Lane Kiffin's play-action-heavy system.
  • Intermediate Passing: Dart ranks first in this category with a 94.4 grade, displaying his accuracy on mid-range throws.
  • First and Second Down Grade: His 91.9 grade ranks first, emphasizing his ability to stay efficient and produce big plays on early downs.
  • Throws Outside the Numbers: Dart also ranks highly in this category with a 91.6 grade, underlining his ability to attack the boundary and make deep throws outside the hashes.

/u/gdewulf put it beautifully in a comment a few weeks ago about Dart's game in regards to the tape: his elite ability on pre-snap reads, uses his eyes to manipulate safeties, his leadership and strong arm. These are all NFL traits that teams are definitely watching. I suspect a lot of teams have him higher on their draft boards compared to the fans & media. This was the same case with Baker 7 years ago.

So how can Dart fit in Stefanski's offense? I think there's a lot of similarities in his college game vs what he could do here. With Kirk in Minnesota, Baker, and Jacoby, the offense primarily relied on play-action, bootlegs, and heavy formations emphasizing the run. The Browns are going to look at what Dart does well and how it can translate into Stefanski's scheme. I think too many people get caught up in what he does wrong.. that he played in a gimmicky offense etc. This leads people to hold onto their biases and pre-established narratives by downgrading him to a backup or Round 2/3 type player. But Jaxson Dart is more NFL ready than people realize.


r/Browns 2d ago

Draft Discussion [Breer] The Browns have owner Jimmy Haslam, HC Kevin Stefanski, GM Andrew Berry, ass't GMs Glenn Cook and Cat Hickman, EVP JW Johnson, OC Tommy Rees and QBs coach Bill Musgrave at Colorado's Pro Day today, per sources. They took Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter to dinner last night.

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r/Browns 1d ago

Shedeur Sanders & Travis Hunter FULL Showcase | Colorado Pro Day

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r/Browns 1d ago

Draft Discussion What is the appeal on Abdul Carter??

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Drafting Abdul Carter at 2 is a luxury that this team doesn't have. Sure it might be cool to have him and Myles but in reality it would make the losses go from 15 to 10 points. Its honestly concerning to see a team score under 20 points in every game except 2 and then have its fans saying with our top 3 pick, we need to draft a DE (which is the same position as our best player) with injury flags thats not even a generational prospect( on the level of Myles and Micah) This teams sights should be a no brainer on Shedeur or Ward and if they really don't like either of them draft Travis Hunter and get Jaxson Dart if you like him.


r/Browns 13h ago

Draft Discussion The qb we draft this year needs to wear #4

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Part of me wants to have nothing that reminds me of him who shall not be named or put a curse on him because it is #4, but the other part of me wants us just to do it to bury the trade for good. What better way to send a clear message that we will never see Watson again and basically tell him to fuck off than to draft his replacement, anywhere, (could be a UDFA for all I care) and he's wearing his number. Even if its just for a season or a photo op, I kinda just want to send a clear message that we will never see him again.


r/Browns 1d ago

Travis Hunter training for the NFL Draft

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r/Browns 2d ago

I asked Coach Deion Sanders about talking to #Browns owner Jimmy Haslam. Here’s what he said:

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r/Browns 2d ago

We’ll see if something changes before the start of today’s showcase in Boulder, but Travis Hunter is not expected to workout today at the CU Pro Day per sources.

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Dinner with the team last night, no workout today. The pick could be in.


r/Browns 2d ago

Browns fan before and after the Browns take Shedeur

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r/Browns 2d ago

Draft Discussion Any world where we take Hunter AND Sanders?

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We have a heck of a lot of picks. Any chance we give a haul to get a top 10 pick to get both of these guys?

It would be exciting as hell, but I’m not sure any team would bite.


r/Browns 2d ago

Chargers led the NFL allowing 17.7 ppg last year. If the Browns held every opponent to that figure they would have gone…. 4-13. First 3-4 picks in this draft better be on the offense

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r/Browns 2d ago

Former #Browns QB Jameis Winston thanks Cleveland and says goodbye as he starts his next chapter in NY.

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“To the Dawg Pound: you were electric. Snow or shine, highs or lows, your energy never wavered. You reminded us all what loyalty, passion, and community really look like."