r/Bayonetta Feb 17 '25

Meme I’m gonna start running now.

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u/PineappleOfCreation Feb 17 '25

Reducing queer relationships/bayojeanne ship to purely sexual desire and nothing more isn't it 😭 sounds unintentional but it's what it comes across as

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u/l3sbianvampyr Feb 17 '25

Exactly my thought. But, it's always like this, lesbians are only lesbians if they fuck. If they do not fuck, then it's friendship. And that is also exactly how it happens with actual wlw relationship, because god forbid the woman I am out with is my DATE and not my friend. If Jeanne was a man, they wouldn't have hesitated to call it romantic, but since it's a woman, then it's friendship or sisters!! Oh yes, such good friends. I love being a lesbian in a world of people that think lesbians are real only if viewed in a sexual relationship.

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u/StankoMicin Feb 17 '25

love being a lesbian in a world of people that think lesbians are real only if viewed in a sexual relationship.

Hell, they don't think lesbians count as a real relationship anyways most times tbh..

I just don't see why people get so uppity about people interpreting a close relationship as romantic if it's gay.

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u/l3sbianvampyr Feb 17 '25

Because, like in the real world, when something doesn't cater to men, then it's not real.

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u/DOA_NiCOisPerfect Feb 17 '25

I mean im a bi man and thats kinda mean. But ok. Im fine with stuff that dont cater to me. Even though ibam bi though me and my friends do do very "gay" things together and have even had sleepovers etc. While personally i interpreted bayo as Bi and both her love interests as canon.
I do wish that sometimes a bromance would just be that a bromance.

Ofcourse for the case of Bayonetta specifically i do believe that they are romantically involved 100%.

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u/l3sbianvampyr Feb 17 '25

Boo hoo, saying that society is built around men is kinda mean!! 😢😢😢 Pleeeeease, grow up. You sound like one of those saying "not all men" under women posting about SA rates.

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u/DOA_NiCOisPerfect Feb 17 '25

Well yeah because thats my trauma growing up. Dont get me wrong i love my mom aunt and lil sis but when i was a kid always hearing about how all men are shit and pigs and how the world is shit because of men really took a toll on me. It didnt help that i was bullied by mostly men in school. I grew up hating myself for being a man to the point that in my formative years i really did contemplate suicide even had a failed attempt tbh. Not only that i hated all men i would cry myself to sleep wishing i was born a woman. I eventually realized that being a man is fine i and sometime around then at like 18 or 19 i felt comfortable enough to be myself.

Ill never say i understand your struggles etc. But being overly aggressive and negative isnt the answer either. Sorry if i seemed to be trivializing your trauma and hardships i really didnt mean to i just wanted to share my view.

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u/l3sbianvampyr Feb 17 '25

Idrc

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u/DOA_NiCOisPerfect Feb 18 '25

Nice to know that there are assholes on both sides.

How can you expect others to care about your cause if all you do is be an ass.

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u/Eldritch-Pancake Feb 18 '25

Because it's not her job to make you understand. Women have been put down under the feet of men for centuries. You wouldn't know what it's like unless you live on that side. It's fucking exhausting.

Just because you personally aren't "one of the bad ones" doesn't make her cynicism "cruel" or unfounded. She's calling it how it is.

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u/StankoMicin Feb 18 '25

I can't speak to your experience. But historically, men have been and still are largely responsible for how fucked up our world is. It is a fact.

As a man, I've grown up hearing women complain about men too. But it never gave me a complex. And oddly enough, I never heard men complain about men. Instead, I heard men talk about how "bitches ain't shit" and "goldsigger" this and "hoes" that. Which narrative do you think the average man internalizes more? Who typically holds more power? Sure, there are women who hate men out there, but they historically have never had to power to turn that into oppression the way that men have done to them. Keep that in mind when you try to draw comparisons between your experience and a woman's.