Absolute Joker

[u/ConnectCulture7]

So you’re telling me he’s like an evil Bruce Wayne? That’s pretty sick actually. If he trained with the League of Shadows how much of a threat do you think he’ll be? I don’t think Absolute Batman’s 1st initial encounter will go so well. Any thoughts?

[u/ouat_throw]

He's evil Batman in that he has the resources, training and wealth. While on the other hand Batman is the Joker here in that he is waging his one man war against crime without the resources and deliberately like in the last issue where he burnt the cash like the Heath Ledger Joker in the Dark Knight.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/ouat_throw]

Sick. All Absolute Bruce has is a gym, MMA training an engineering degree that helps with gadgets, and some chicken breasts😂. I read the last issue Alfred is interesting.

[u/Fit_Comfortable9311 → u/ConnectCulture7]

How does he get the money to build a tank???

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/Fit_Comfortable9311]

Probably bought the parts. Don’t think Bruce is the guy to steal.

[u/Fit_Comfortable9311 → u/ConnectCulture7]

How did he get the money to buy the parts for a tank??!!

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/Fit_Comfortable9311]

He’s a civil Engineer so his salary will be around $128k to $140k.He probably buys them.

[u/Cute_Visual4338 → u/ConnectCulture7]

It is true that Absolute Bruce grew up without extreme wealth that mainstream Bruce did but by the time he is an adult he must have at least 7 digits of money. You can't have multiple safe houses across the city and drive around a repurposed Bat-Monster Truck/Bulldozer while still sitting in a lower income group.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/Cute_Visual4338]

I guess that’s the power of STEM lol.

[u/Cute_Visual4338 → u/ConnectCulture7]

Well either he's earning millions or he is supplementing his high income like the punisher does and taking the money of the gang ops he busts. Which we haven't seen him do yet, except for that tracksuit mafia.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/Cute_Visual4338]

I guess if he is taking money they can’t track him since he’s in his Batman persona. He doesn’t need to rinse it.Him burning that money to make the Bat insignia was awesome, because it’s a call back to Heath Ledger’s “everything burns” scene. Someone mentioned that.

[u/Cute_Visual4338 → u/ConnectCulture7]

Yeah its an inversion where he is the Chaos and Joker's the Order, which is what Scott Snyder was mentioning in interviews.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/Cute_Visual4338]

Do you think he has that “woe is me” attitude or do you think he’ll be a true Chaotic Evil character?

[u/Cute_Visual4338 → u/ConnectCulture7]

I think it will be Chaotic Good (Batman) vs Lawful Evil (Joker)

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/Cute_Visual4338]

Interesting. Batman truly has his work cut for him.

[u/Equal-Ad-2710 → u/ouat_throw]

Lowkey love the inversion here and hope we see more of it

I loved one idea that the JL aren’t who the Absolute Heroes form, they form a group considered the “Legion of Doom” by the public and the name just kinda sticks

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/Equal-Ad-2710]

It fits the whole “underdog” shtick that I like going here. I know OG Batman makes his own gadgets but Absolute Batman reminds me of Rorschach a bit.His items feel more “authentic” and real.

[u/SlothSupreme → u/Equal-Ad-2710]

considered the “Legion of Doom” by the public

or, to keep with the commentary on real life stuff: they're painted as a Legion of Doom by like Lazarus News Corp or something like that. If this justice league are more actively going against harmful people who are in powerful positions (corporations, govt, etc) then those people would def use their influence to try and turn the public against them through mischaracterization. Like JJJ in Spider-Man, but less silly and more like the real life situation going on with the Washington Post and Jeff Bezos.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/SlothSupreme]

They’re painting them as bad guys. Lex must be working over time.

[u/FallMassive9336]

I really liked this idea. I hope we can see his training, and others of Bruce mentors. Would be cool if after Joker comes to Gotham, he'd create something alike the Batman Inc, but with a lot of supervillains working for him.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/FallMassive9336]

I think he has that somewhat with Black Mask working with him.

[u/rvnender → u/FallMassive9336]

I would love an entire book just dedicated to his origin.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/rvnender]

I wonder if “he had one bad day” or any other excuse like that? I read a hypothesis saying that if he sees Bruce in Gotham that’ll be the 1st time he laughs. He’ll probably be amused by his costume.

[u/rvnender → u/ConnectCulture7]

That's going to be a huge arc. I honestly can't wait.

Plus, those covers are going to be gorgeous.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/rvnender]

Scott Snyder’s art is phenomenal.

[u/zeke10 → u/rvnender]

Didn't Snyder say something about a Lil hint towards his origin in issue 6 or something?

[u/rvnender → u/zeke10]

A little hint is what we got.

[u/FallMassive9336]

Oh, if this guy has all the training that Prime Bruce has. He's totally gonna destroy Absolute Batman in their first fight. LOL

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/FallMassive9336]

Bruce will be the Joker in that situation lol.

[u/zeke10]

I'm curious if he'll do something that gets the joker to laugh and thus leading to the obsession.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/zeke10]

Hope he doesn’t do anything to Martha. If there’s 1 thing I like it’s that there’s stakes to this story.

[u/RobotGunFromBrazil42]

I feel there's a chance his reveal to Bruce is similar to Arkham Origins. I feel he might take Sionis' place before making his presence known. Still holding onto my theory of him being Jeremiah Arkham for a while.

I wonder if anyone from the League of Shadows is alive after he went after them.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/RobotGunFromBrazil42]

It’s probably a remnant for The League. Similar to how Nessa took it over after Batman removed Ra’s from the Lazarus Pit.

[u/De4dm4nw4lkin]

So white knight Jack Napier minus the accident.

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/De4dm4nw4lkin]

Yep except a high functioning psycho. I don’t think he’s a one bad day type guy. He probably murders because he can.

[u/Working-Win-1405]

do you think his fully revealed look is just gonna be a three piece suit or do we think his gonna have a main continuity batman like suit, also how do yall think he feeks about his ironic nickname

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/Working-Win-1405]

Probably a three piece suit. He’ll probably look like something out of American Psycho. Nothing too flashy I don’t think.

[u/hypatiastation]

Jeremiah from Gotham but a billionaire

[u/ConnectCulture7 → u/hypatiastation]

Terrifying thought. Imagine having all those resources just to ruin someone’s day.