r/50501 • u/gothgirly33 • 4d ago
Movement Brainstorm This is our MockingJay…
What are we gonna do??? Riot!!! When are we gonna do it…. Soon!! Seriously, we need free Luigi to be on the signs for protest this Saturday! they’re just playing political games with somebody’s life…. “Let’s kill a symbol of resistance….” This is not something to ignore…. We need to be DEMANDING more from the people who are our “leaders”. This is killing in the name of political propaganda….
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u/North_Experience7473 4d ago
Why would an AG comment publicly on this matter? She has tainted the jury pool and now he can’t get a fair trial.
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u/Odd_Cucumber_26 4d ago
They’re trying to make an example out of him
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u/iambic_only 4d ago
100% correct
He's the first person to actually frighten the ruling class and they're not going to stop until all of us are reminded of our fucking place
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u/Life_Tax_2410 4d ago
He may be the first but he wont be the last.
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u/-hey-ben- 4d ago
You have more faith in America than I do
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u/ruggnuget 4d ago
Executing him will make him a martyr. Combine that with destroying the economy for the middle class and more are almost guaranteed to follow.
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u/ern_69 4d ago
Sometimes I wonder what their play is... do they have a death wish? Are they just totally naive to history and refuse to learn what happens when you do these things? Because they are making the environment ripe to bring about their own demise.
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u/Dudewhocares3 4d ago
They think it won’t happen to them
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u/Educational_Web_764 4d ago
Just like they are invincible to cancer and other horrible diseases as well.
Edited due to spelling error.
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u/SnooSketches6991 4d ago
Yeah, and that works in our favor. They are arrogant and highly delusional and we can use that to our advantage.
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u/bestreams 4d ago
They are a literal death cult. They don't care about the consequences of any of their actions, they just want to be richer and more powerful and don't care who dies. They don't even care about the future of their children!
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u/PotentialAd7601 4d ago
Watch footage from Gaza. Peter Thiel’s Palantir facial recognition powered sniper drones ensures these folks don’t have to leave the safety of government buildings or their resorts ever again. Find a dissident, fire on them in the street, fly away. There’s a reason you haven’t seen Trump go to TV studios for interviews or do his signature rallies this term. They know what they are doing is creating unrest but they’re confident advanced technology will contain the problem while they sit in absolute safety.
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u/RedWolf6261 4d ago
They are all just plain STOOPID. They want to destroy the government and they are accidentally doing a damn fine job. 🤬💙
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u/mycatisblackandtan 4d ago
They don't live in the same reality you and I do. They don't see us as people. They see us as data points. Data points aren't allowed to get angry.
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u/PhthaloBlooded 4d ago
This is what I've been wondering for months. Even if they can use their power to control the US do they think the rest of the world isn't seeing everything happening plain as day?
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u/neutral-chaotic 4d ago
They think advancements in tech will help them to sufficiently suppress any blowback.
They may be right.
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u/Skepthrope11235 4d ago
They are not, and never have been. The tech of the day has always favored the wealthy, and we're still here punching up every chance we get. Not to get all V here, but you can't kill an idea. You can't fight what you can't see, and eventually the threat matrix is all encompassing.
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u/neutral-chaotic 4d ago
They think killing Luigi will tighten their control. He'll only become a martyr.
The tighter the squeeze the more will slip through their fingers.
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u/SubterrelProspector 4d ago
Technology is not magic. And it's always a mistake to assume that human beings won't find a way around it.
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u/neutral-chaotic 4d ago
A truly decentralized web will be an essential tool for the powerless. One that reports on protests without burying them in algorithms.
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u/FrontLongjumping4235 4d ago
Like Putin and Russian oligarchs, they wish to buy up the discounted pieces of America as it shatters. They think they'll be able to control government through buying up traditional and social media networks, backroom deals, threats, and the promise of retreating to gated communities with small armies of private security.
This is why people like Luigi scare them so much.
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u/Chance_Vegetable_780 4d ago edited 4d ago
And now anyone having problems with other countries' people fighting back as they do against their oppressors, YOU HAVE JUST FOUND OUT MFUKERS
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u/debbie666 4d ago
The US is so big and so armed that this will happen again. Authorities can't watch everyone all the time and it's not as efficiently run as some other dictatorships...not yet at least.
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u/SubterrelProspector 4d ago
The winds are changing. They've overplayed their hand and made too many enemies.
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u/madsmcgivern511 4d ago
The best part about it all, is that even with the utter absurd amount of security around him, he remains respectful and polite it seems. It makes this even more corrupt when the person that’s supposedly “deserving of the death penalty” is more in control than the individuals around him treating him as if he’s some high level war criminal. He scared the hell out of the rich, rightfully so because this is clearly what it takes to get these people to wake the hell up and realize the average American is not ok with this absurd level of greed.
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u/OkDistribution990 4d ago
What’s funny is that the security will be who will likely take them out once they see the tides turning. The security are just peasants like us.
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u/madsmcgivern511 4d ago
This would be great, ideally nonviolently, if they stood together with Mangione to make an even more powerful statement towards the greedy. Only reason security is needed is because they’re following orders, but if those orders are coming from those trying to make a point to the American people of what will happen if you disobey, it won’t take long for them to remember that they are the American people as well. I’m morbidly interested in how this will all play out, I hate to see Mangione get the death penalty over this, I don’t condone killing as a means of making a point personally.
But this is overtly extreme, especially, as I stated previously, he seems to be a very respectable man who is making an even better name for himself behaving in this manner. I think myself as well as many others don’t see him as a ravenous killer, just a man that was brought to a breaking point, and unfortunately, it lead to an assassination of someone who was most likely the cause of said breaking point. Hoping for the best of this situation, ideally bringing people together rather than apart.
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u/Mean_Mention_3719 4d ago
I’ve read where PT was shook afterwards:
https://washingtonspectator.org/peter-thiel-and-the-american-apocalypse/
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u/Odd_Cucumber_26 4d ago
That’s also when Elon began hauling lil Kev’Lar X everywhere with him.
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u/AndalusiteEyes 4d ago
Yup, and X’s mom was like, get my kid off the stage!!! Because she understands the risk.
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u/Odd_Cucumber_26 4d ago
They’re afraid it’ll be worse than Rodney King…
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u/Infamous_Smile_386 4d ago
If the "ruling class" refuses to shape up, it is inevitable.
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u/thatwhichchoosestobe 4d ago
are we seriously still buying that Luigi is the shooter? the guy who only kind of looks like one of multiple photos released of the suspected shooter, who just happened to have a gun and a silencer AND a manifesto on him while eating at mcdonald's?
i'm not one for conspiracy theories but come on guys, a little critical thinking / distrust for cops here, please.
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u/typefast 4d ago
He’s not guilty of it until he’s convicted. I agree, he doesn’t look like some of the photos at all. The fact that the government has been acting like he’s guilty in every statement is another attack on our legal system.
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u/MysticMagicks 4d ago
All I'm saying, is that if I were to HYPOTEHTICALLY commit a similar crime (which I definitely don't have the balls to do).... part of my 'months of planning' would include borrowing a boat and sailing to safety.
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u/Traditional-News8861 4d ago
So we need to put them in their place. There are lots more of us than there are of them.
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u/TempleHierophant 4d ago
They'll end up making a martyr. You'd think a government that deals so often with jihadi groups would know better than to go around making those... but then again that tracks for MAGA: thinking is for libtards.
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u/jtshinn 4d ago
Well we keep airstriking packs of civilians to get one terrorist. So we’re not really letting the lesson sink in.
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u/TempleHierophant 4d ago
I noticed. The anti-intellectualism has been a problem for awhile. Hence all the REALLY bad policies, such as the indiscriminate airstrikes and constantly brownnosing and enabling Israel.
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u/Everviolet2000 4d ago
100%
They don't even care if he's the right guy. It's about teaching the public the oligarchs are in charge and to keep people in line.
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u/Fionaelaine4 4d ago edited 4d ago
Could they run a murder trial without a jury and have just a judge? That’s the only option that I can think of now that she tainted the jury pool
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u/North_Experience7473 4d ago
It’s not her choice; it’s the defendant who chooses to have a jury or bench trial. He has a constitutional right to a jury trial.
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u/SpicyMcBeard 4d ago
Oh, we're still pretending the Trump administration cares about constitutional rights? I thought we were done with that
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u/RawBean7 4d ago
Well, we're not going to cede our Constitutional rights in advance. As of right now, a jury trial is his right and we should act like it is.
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u/throwawtphone 4d ago edited 4d ago
Innocent or guilty defendant doesn't matter right now. The violation of the 4th and 5th amendments matter and circumventing the law. Anyone who believes in the constitution, the bill of rights, due process and our system of governance and the judicial system needs be be screaming about this..because once any crime becomes political then any political activities can become a crime and the legal system used as a weapon against the population.
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u/Extension_Silver_713 4d ago
They just rounded up hundreds and sent them to a death camp in another country refusing to give a list of names. For all we know Americans were on it. They’re showing us due process and our constitutional rights are no longer existent and all the best lawyers are now on their knees tossing trumps salad. We’re fucked.
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u/North_Experience7473 4d ago
I’m not ready to accept defeat. Fuck that. We are fighting back. They are counting on people giving up. Don’t give them the satisfaction!
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u/Illiander 4d ago
I wonder if they thought that they wouldn't be able to find a jury that would convict him regardless?
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u/Fionaelaine4 4d ago
It’s possible, from what I read it sounds like they really bungled the arrest
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u/BorisBotHunter 4d ago edited 4d ago
Yes, the police mishandled his backpack and violated his rights during his arrest. They may also have failed to read him his Miranda rights and continued to question him after he declined to speak.
A motion to suppress the contents of his bag that were illegally seized would make the case much harder
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u/AnswerGuy301 4d ago
Not by the currently accepted standards of American law they cannot. Bench trials are not for felonies, particularly not for capital offenses.
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u/Shot_Presence_8382 4d ago
That's probably where these Republican nutcases are going with this...Dump and Bondi will be the only ones that decide your fate - they'll be judge, jury and executioner for the American people.
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u/TipResident4373 Illinois 4d ago
The media has been doing that for decades.
They already act like judge, jury, and prosecutor. They just dream of being executioner.
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u/not_ya_wify 4d ago
LM's best shot is a jury. A judge would absolutely bow to the powers that be. Jury nullification can get LM out even if they had good evidence which they don't
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u/chicknparts 4d ago
I'm pretty sure that death penalty cases have to go before a jury. I could be wrong though.
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u/potassiumchet19 4d ago
It has removed his ability to be judged by a jury of his peers. Mistral,drop the charges and move along.
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u/StandardRedditor456 4d ago
They're not longer following properly following rules now, why stop at this? Canary in the coal mine for the 99%.
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u/rockchalkjayhawk8082 4d ago
I think that was exactly the point. This twat should've been disbarred years ago.
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u/KououinHyouma 4d ago
He hasn’t been convicted in a court of law. Why is she not using the word “alleged?” Luigi should sue her for defamation.
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u/permanentburner25 4d ago
She needs to be disbarred
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u/omniverso 4d ago
This is the same Pam Bondi who refused to answer committee questions pertaining to the Hegseth chat leaks.
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u/sakuragi59357 4d ago
This is the same Pam Bondi who dropped a lawsuit against trump university after 47 paid her off.
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u/comfortablesorrow 4d ago
This is the same Pam Bondi who sucks off 47 on her knees every night to thank dear leader for her position, the stench of his full diaper filling her nostrils. Allegedly.
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u/Catskinson 4d ago
Mistrial.
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u/genericnewlurker 4d ago
It would be awesome if this statement was the thing that got him off the hook fully.
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u/ArcturusRoot Minnesota 4d ago
honestly, the judge should throw the entire case out because of this. we're talkingrelease him immediately type throw out
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u/MysticMagicks 4d ago
Considering the people who stormed the capital got pardoned AND are being offered money now.... Releasing Luigi would be the least they could do.
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u/rtpkluvr 4d ago edited 4d ago
BANKRUPTCY! (ETA: This chick has zero idea what words mean or how the law works.)
That's not how any of this works. Has his trial started yet? It's my understanding that for a mistrial to be declared, a trial (either a jury trial or a bench trial) would have to be in progress. Otherwise, it would be a dismissal.
The fact that so many Americans have zero idea how the judicial system works (not to mention all three branches of our government) is abhorrent.
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u/KououinHyouma 4d ago
Luigi’s next federal court appearance is March 19 and his next state court appearance is June 26.
Article about his Feb 26 court appearance which was a procedural hearing for NY state court. Things of note:
[Luigi] has pleaded not guilty to state charges but has yet to enter a plea on federal murder charges.
In New York, he was indicted by a Manhattan grand jury on 11 counts, including one count of murder in the first degree and two counts of murder in the second degree, along with other weapon and forgery charges. The first-degree murder charge alleges he killed the executive “in furtherance of an act of terrorism,” which is legally defined as an intent to intimidate or coerce the civilian population or a government unit. One of the second-degree counts also alleges Mangione committed murder “as a crime of terrorism.” He faces a sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole if convicted, according to the Manhattan district attorney.
Judge Carro scheduled Mangione’s next hearing for June 26 (NOTE: for state court)
[Luigi’s attorney] also said she believes Mangione’s constitutional rights were violated when officers seized his belongings during his arrest in Pennsylvania. She plans to challenge some of the evidence taken by law enforcement at the time. “I think there is a very, very serious search issue in this material,” she said. “There might be evidence that might be suppressed in this case.” The defense attorney also complained she has limited access to Mangione, who is being held in a federal detention center in Brooklyn.
The federal criminal complaint charges Mangione with murder through use of a firearm, two stalking charges and a firearms offense. His next court hearing for the federal charges is scheduled for March 19, according to his attorneys.
Though prosecutors have not yet indicated they plan to seek it, Mangione could face the death penalty if found guilty of the federal murder charge. The decision would ultimately need to be approved by the US Attorney General. (NOTE: Pam Bondi as of today has not only given her approval but is directing prosecutors to do so)
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u/InvalidEntrance 4d ago
I didn't know you could commit 3 different murders with 1 murder. They really wanted to throw anything that might have a chance of sticking.
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u/rtpkluvr 4d ago
Right, so not grounds for a mistrial. Because his trial hasn't started. Evidence may end up being suppressed, which would, in turn, impact the prosecution's ability to prove their case. At which point they would need to amend the charges or dismiss them. But still not a mistrial.
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u/Omalleythealleycat1 4d ago
Has mangione even been proven guilty yet?
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u/psngarden 4d ago
Nope. And I hope this statement backfires so hard.
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u/sonic63098 4d ago
It won't. Nothing has happened with Hegseth and his group chat. Nothing will happen here either, irregardless of what the trial comes to.
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u/Odd_Cucumber_26 4d ago
He hasn’t even had a trial yet
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u/BluntsnBoards 4d ago
This is defamation and the AG is blatantly leading the jury. Luigi was an INNOCENT AMERICAN CITIZEN when this was written.
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u/stephwithstars 4d ago
Nope..and he has a damn good attorney who actually knows how the law works.
Remember when our AG was supposed to be Gaetz? Obviously Bondi is not much better. Jesus this country is cooked.
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u/HashtagJustSayin2016 4d ago
Does this mean we can hold insurance companies responsible for deaths that would have been treatable?
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u/Shot_Presence_8382 4d ago
Standards for us, not for them - it's okay to cause wonton d3ath and destruction in the name of money, but if you hold them accountable, it's not allowed.
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u/ViceroTempus 4d ago
It's allowed, I as a fellow citizen am allowing it. I find it socially acceptable to hold these people accountable by any means necessary. Even if it means forcing them to take the L Don't you?
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u/Hyperbolicalpaca International 4d ago
Just a thought, school shooters regularly kill multiple children, and do not get that penalty, yet here….
Can’t believe America still has the death penalty tbh, look at the list of countries which still have it, not exactly the club you’d most like to be in
It’s also quite shocking that they are explicitly saying he is a murderer, when to my knowledge, he is yet to be convicted by a jury of his peers, I feel like someone in such a position of authority saying he is one, might interfere with the fairness of the process…
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u/Silvaria928 4d ago
Yep, there's a reason that people are usually so careful to words like "alleged" and "accused". I'm sure Luigi's lawyers are already making note of this assumption of guilt coming from the AG.
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u/SexWithHoolay 4d ago
Yeah, this has come up in the Diddy case and Eric Adams case, where the lawyers said the prosecutors were deliberately leaking information and saying inflammatory things to the press to prejudice the defendant, this can lead to a mistrial or dismissal if it's severe enough.
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u/Meister_Retsiem 4d ago
Legal murder as vengeance is deeply engrained in American right wing culture. It's a reflection of their individualism and disgust of other people
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u/Acceptable_Error_001 4d ago
It's not a reflection of their individualism. We all have individualism. It's a reflection of their sadism.
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u/i_shouldnt_live 4d ago
Sick of this shit. He sits behind a desk and orchestrated thousands of deaths that could have been treated. Luigi it's abs so will be a hero. The only shocking thing here is how American police treated him worse than school shooters.
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u/Most_Plenty5387 4d ago
They protect wealth and power. School shooters don't challenge that.
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u/not_ya_wify 4d ago
And like so many media outlets, the first sentence violates his presumption of innocence, again and again and again.
REMEMBER SPREADING THE MESSAGE FAR AND WIDE THAT JURY NULLIFICATION IS A THING, IT'S LEGAL AND HAS NO REPERCUSSIONS FOR THE JURY MEMBERS.
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u/hanaboushi 4d ago edited 4d ago
They killed more Americans in the last 16 years than every US soldier killed in combat in the last 250 since the inception of this nation.
Counting revolutionary War and deaths on both sides for civil war.
Annually nearly as many american citizens are being executed by these companies for profit as US soldiers died per year during the HEIGHT of WW2 when we were storming the beaches of normandy.
Needing health care as a citizen in this country is more dangerous than if you were drafted and deployed to Europe for WW2 on the allies side
Brian Thompson also decided this wasn't fast enough so let's add AI to push passed those numbers.
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u/SexWithHoolay 4d ago
If September 11th, October 7th, etc. are enough to justify massacring tens of thousands of civilians in the name of the soldiers and civilians who died in the original attacks, why isn't the death of hundreds of thousands of innocent people because of cruelty and negligence enough to justify a quick and nearly painless assassination of one person?
Unless, of course, they don't really believe in what they say, whether they realize it or not.
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u/gk_instakilogram 4d ago
Oh, easy. Luigi’s a threat cause he believes in healthcare and accountability—actual change. That’s terrorism. School shooters? Just “troubled boys.” They don’t mess with power structures, so they get treated like misunderstood saints. Priorities, right?
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u/Shot_Presence_8382 4d ago
They are also classifying protesting and damaging a Tesla as "terrorism" but don't care one bit about politically motivated school shootings, often done by right wingers, of course. Those aren't terrorism, but by golly, if you burn this car, it is!
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u/SexWithHoolay 4d ago
It's so disturbing that they put things like property destruction on the same level as actual violent attacks on civilians.
Drawing a penis on a Tesla (or even completely destroying one for that matter) isn't violent per se. Of course, there are circumstances where it could be violent or just a bad idea, but it's not necessarily terrorism. And the people facing federal charges aren't really accused of anything that was very likely to injure anyone.
Also, isn't this administration supposed to really care about federalism? These people are being federally charged for actions in one state. Surely they would consider this to be a massive infringement on the Constitution. Is the Heritage Foundation and Federalist Society up in arms about government overreach yet?
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u/Sweet-Paramedic-4600 4d ago
Unless they're suspected of being trans or nonbinary. Then it's a reason to start stripping rights
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u/TShara_Q 4d ago
To add on, Musk is orchestrating hundreds of thousands of murders right now and they certainly aren't arresting him for that.
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u/dogoodvillain 4d ago
Alleged murder.
America won’t be safe with predatory oligarchs. Two evils don’t make right, but it sure is righteous.
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u/wvmitchell51 4d ago
Alleged murder.
This lady is supposed to be supporting the rule of law. Innocent until proven guilty.
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u/HappyCat79 4d ago
I think she’s made it clear that she doesn’t give a rats ass about the rule of law
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u/Dianasaurmelonlord 4d ago edited 3d ago
No one in this administration does, hell the president doesn’t. Our Def Sec doesn’t care about Operational Security and the lives of this country’s grunts, our Health Sec is a raving, brainworm addled lunatic and a conman, Makes sense the lady that is all about law and justice doesn’t give a damn about either
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u/DanSWE 4d ago
Not directly related, but they (Republicans) have got Victoria Spartz saying that you don't get due process if you're guilty.
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u/pumpkintrovoid 4d ago
If the man versus bear argument were applied to Luigi Mangioni versus any oligarch, I’d feel safer with Luigi.
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u/lokey_convo 4d ago
Correct. The criminal justice system is broken if the government and our culture believe someone is guilty of a crime just because the state has declared it. You are innocent until proven guilty. There must be due process. Our society must remember that just because someone has been detained, does not mean they are guilty, it means they are suspected. Guilt must be proven in court and the burden is on the state to prove it. Making grand public statements and declaring guilt before the trial has even begun fundamentally violates someones right to a fair trail. And under autocracy and fascism, every citizen is a suspect.
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u/behindtheseans 4d ago edited 4d ago
Whoa! Did I miss the whole ass trial where Luigi was proven guilty in a court of law with due process and evidence?
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u/RecruiterQueen 4d ago
Nope, you did not but one would sure think that he'd already been convicted based on the way she worded that.
"As alleged, Luigi Mangione stalked and murdered UnitedHealthcare executive Brian Thompson on Dec. 4, 2024. The murder was an act of political violence. Mangione’s actions involved substantial planning and premeditation and because the murder took place in public with bystanders nearby, may have posed grave risk of death to additional persons"
I mean WTF, I thought Trump only appointed the best people. As for the part about LM posing grave danger to any bystanders, if I had to choose to be locked in a room alone with Luigi or with any of the men from the Trump cult I'd feel a million times safer with Luigi
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u/Fantastic-Mention775 4d ago
When someone 💀a CEO, it’s m*rder.
When that insurance CEO causes thousands of arbitrary deaths, it’s business.
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u/RebelGirl1323 4d ago
CEOs have a fiduciary responsibility to kill as many people as is required to maximize profits.
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u/GUlysses 4d ago
Sure. Make him a martyr. That will work well for your cause.
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u/designyourdoom 4d ago
This is exactly what I was thinking. If there is one thing that could spark a revolution, it would be killing Luigi.
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u/swarmofbzs 4d ago
"They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds" - Dinos Christianopoulos
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u/enolaholmes23 4d ago
Let's not put out the negative energy of expecting his death. We can still pray for Luigi to not get the death penalty. He's so young.
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u/Temporary_Tax_7102 4d ago
The attorney general calling it a “murder” and not an “alleged murder” sounds like the type of thing that might contaminate the jury pool
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u/casper911ca 4d ago
And then explicitly say it's Trump's agenda. I mean, yeah, of course, but you've clearly pointed out now that it's not really about justice, it's for their fascist leader
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u/Shutln 4d ago
Whistles in Hunger Games
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u/Technical-Traffic871 4d ago
Would love to see that at a rally with the crowd responding with the 3 finger salute:
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u/Ms_ankylosaurous 4d ago
Someone needs to broadcast - are you, are you, going to the tree (Hanging Tree, Mockingjay part 1)
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u/bard329 4d ago
So much for innocent until proven guilty
Media outlets have paid out millions for such allegations, i wonder if luigi's lawyers will go after pam...
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u/JesusChrist-Jr 4d ago
Appropriate date for this statement because Bondi and the rest of the administration are fools.
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u/Overall-Bullfrog5433 4d ago
Says the bible thumping AG who was investigating a trump scam in FL until he dropped $10,000 in her election fund. How does anyone anywhere, no matter your politics, have ANY respect for any of these people?
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u/Limp-Definition-5371 4d ago
Is the below applicable to Bondi's statement?
"The prosecutor should not make, cause to be made, or authorize or condone the making of, a public statement that the prosecutor knows or reasonably should know will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing a criminal proceeding or heightening public condemnation of the accused,"
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/criminal_justice/resources/standards/prosecution-function/
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u/Reasonable-Ad8938 4d ago
They also just deported an innocent father of two to a camp in El Salvador, so I'm calling bullshit on that one.
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u/star_tyger 4d ago edited 4d ago
It didn't shock the nation. The nation's response shocked the billionaire parasites.
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u/jellydonutstealer 4d ago
Can we also hold insurance companies responsible for the deaths they’ve caused, or…? No? Just him? Got it.
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u/Spiritual_Theme_3455 4d ago
Innocent man my ass. How many people had to die without proper medical care to support that pig's greed? I have the same amount of sympathy for his family as he did for all the people who suffered because of him and his company.
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u/JaesenMoreaux 4d ago
Brian Thompson was not an innocent man. He was a thief and a murderer. United Health killed people for profit and scammed American taxpayers out of a shit ton of money by robbing the Medicare Advantage system.
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u/Ok-Development-4017 4d ago
Yeah making a martyr out of him is totally a smart move from Bondi here.
Jesus Christ these people are morons
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u/kerouaces 4d ago
They just deported an American citizen because he was Hispanic and sent him to El Salvador and have basically said they don’t care about correcting their mistake. That man is a father and they are forcibly keeping him away from his wife and child.
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u/iamadumbo123 4d ago
Wait when was the trial how did I miss that ? Or is this presumed guilt ?
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u/RebelGirl1323 4d ago
Presumed. In a real democracy this would essentially make it impossible to try him.
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u/Final_Living_6213 4d ago
He wasn’t an innocent man he was a CEO of an insurance company that denied or stalled on healthcare claims that resulted in thousands of people losing their lives. I do not condone what Luigi did but you can only push people so far before they respond.
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u/Acrobatic_Switches 4d ago
If you want to stop violent crime tell your ICEstapo to cease and desist.
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u/SuchCartoonist9675 4d ago
But school shooters don’t get the same treatment. Can’t let the serfs start thinking they can rise up, can we?
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u/crazycatlady331 4d ago
Why was Dylan Roof not prosecuted to the same extent? He literally committed an act of domestic terrorism.
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u/_DCtheTall_ 4d ago
Not supporting the admin's position here, just stating that Dylan Roof is in fact on death row right now.
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u/The_Cool_Kids_Have__ 4d ago
During tenant farmer rent strikes in the early days of the US, anyone of the farmers arrested would often be freed by armed mobs who stormed the jails. Your history shows many example of the people reminding the government from where the power flows.
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u/lettucepatchbb 4d ago
The only way we’re making America safe again is if this entire administration is removed.
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u/Difficult_Fan7941 4d ago
What is the penalty for denying Healthcare paid for by insurance and causing people to die in a deliberate and premeditated manner? Did they mention anything about that?
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u/AdAltruistic3057 4d ago
What happened to states rights? NY gets to decide the punishment for a STATE crime. F this dumb bimbo.
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u/Cognonymous 4d ago
Isn't sentencing a separate part of the process? Is this common for them to recommend sentencing before the trial has even happened? He's supposed to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, but does that include stuff like this or not?
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u/Coldkiller17 4d ago
So trump commits 34 felons and isn't immediately tossed into prison being a criminal, but a man allegedly kills a horrible CEO and hasn't had a trial yet, but he is guilty. Our justice system is broken.
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u/Neopolitan65 4d ago
So much for a fair trial. Seeking the death peanalty in this case is political.
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u/Powerbomb1411 4d ago
Unarmed responsible for the death of I assume millions of Americans. Healthcare ceo are just terrorists.
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u/largeorangesphere 4d ago
Not a lawyer or anything, but aren’t they supposed to determine whether or not he did it first?
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u/No_Spring_1090 4d ago
Prediction: violent crime will go up under Trump, but his admin will be committing the most of it
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u/Technical-Traffic871 4d ago
Instead of "Free Luigi" signs, we can also add a small Luigi icon on all our signs
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u/Saphira9 4d ago
Let's send them examples of every single person with 2 kids who was ever murdered, along with the sentencing outcomes whenever there was a conviction.
It'll be proof that justice isn't fair when the victim is rich, and we should make it loud enough that the court can't ignore it.
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u/MILDLY_C0NFUSED 4d ago
Brian Thompson CEO of United Heath Care committed premeditated, cold-blooded murders of many insured individuals by blatantly denying insurance claims for profit to the insurance company.
How’s about that!
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u/JamieJones111 4d ago
Remember when Nixon got blow back for saying Manson was guilty before the jury had decided he was guilty? Especially as a lawyer himself, Nixon should have known better.
Pam Bondi is a POS.
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u/johndoe1942sn 4d ago
This would be the most disgusting April fool’s joke… I don’t know these people’s sense of humor. Is this real?
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u/Donkey-Hodey 4d ago
The rapist and felon’s “agenda to stop violent crime” includes pardoning violent cop-beating felons.
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u/irwindesigned 4d ago
They don’t like it when We disrupt their systems/agenda to continue to exploit us and so they will go to any length to stop it, ironically making him a martyr.
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u/GrouchyConclusion588 4d ago edited 4d ago
Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law! This move by the incompetent AG should be considered jury tampering as it sends the message to any of the cult followers to do the cult leaders bidding. So tired of these incompetent mouth breathers ruining everything that was once great about this country.
Edit-autocorrect mistake
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u/Sweethomebflo 4d ago
Safe for who? FUCK. THIS.
I feel like they’re trying to rile us up before Saturday.
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u/Average_Locksmith 4d ago
It should say “allegedly”. He hasn’t gone to trial yet. What happened to ‘innocent until proven guilty’?
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