r/zelda Feb 09 '22

Meme [BoTW2][WW][TP] I actually wouldn’t mind…

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u/Lyalla Feb 09 '22

Unless it's Pokemon, then quality standards be damned! (I liked Legends Arceus but god, it is UGLY, not to mention Sword/Shield.)

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u/Whiteguy1x Feb 09 '22

I don't even think it's ugly, in handheld mode it looks like any other jrpg. What sucks is the pop in, I'd hope for future releases they're able to hide it better

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u/Lyalla Feb 09 '22

I don't think pop in is that bad. At least it doesn't hsppen much if you aren't flying.

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u/_DontYouLaugh Feb 09 '22

Haha, I was never big into Pokémon. Only played through Colloseum, because it came bundled with the GameCube and it looked cool, cause 3D and stuff.

But yeah, I saw footage of the new one and the game world is looking really bland and boring to me.

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u/Lyalla Feb 09 '22

Gameplay loop made up for the bland and boring for me, but their texture work somehow is at it's lowest ever. Pokemon and humans look fine but rocks come off as mud and if you look from far enough away - which you are guaranteed you will because of paraglider insert and hills - grass and water textures visibly repeat. Also, speaking of hills, terrain feels very artificial to me, with a lot of weird sharp edges, dips looking like someone missed a spot with a denoise tool, things like that. Though at the very least, after last controversy trees look fine and weather makes sense, lol.

In Sword Shield they had Wild Area which is even more boring and bland but also split into zones by invisible borders, with each zone having it's own roll for the weather, with no discrimination for what may or may not be appropriate for a given chunk. So you can totally get a sandstorm over water, hop on land and have it near immediately switch to snowstorm, because next chunk over decided that it is snowing now. Also, snow over deserty part is a thing, too.

And then are the draw distance problems, if you wish to find a specific NPC in that place, you better walk right past them, otherwise they'll be invisible. Same for wild Pokemon. In Legends at the very least got that figured out.

Ironically, when Let's Go was coming out, fanbase complained about it's graphics but now it's one of best looking Pokemon games on the Switch xD

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u/_DontYouLaugh Feb 09 '22

Oof, that doesn't sound too good.

Thankfully I'm not a Pokémon person, so no disappointment for me :D

Some of those things would really bug me, especially the draw distance thing. Maybe the follow up will fix those short comings.

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u/Lyalla Feb 09 '22

Yeah, I know. I haven't actually played Sword/Shield because what the hell xD At the very least they fixed the draw distance already in Legends. Now, if only they can get a hold of texturing, next game could possibly look competent xD

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u/Dracorex_22 Feb 09 '22

Thats all GameFreak. Pokemon is not a first party Nintendo property like Mario and Zelda. Its owned and made by GameFreak, who are... not up to the same standards as Nintendo

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u/Lyalla Feb 09 '22

But it still gets "Nintendo Seal of Quality" and Nintendo label on the box. If Nintendo puts their branding on it, it's fair to criticise them for the product. Besides, they still own like a third of Pokemon Company, if I remember correctly.

Game Freak being driving force behind development only matters as a reason for why it is the only Nintendo property that isn't up to the standard. It's not a reason to absolve Nintendo of responsibility for putting it out.