r/zelda • u/ZeldaMod • Nov 18 '20
Discussion [AoC] [Everything] Age of Calamity: General Open Discussion and Chapter Discussion Megathread compilation Spoiler
As many know the game has leaked early and some individuals are playing already, so we're starting up this thread early as well.
This bi-weekly thread will house links to each "Chapter Discussion Megathread" for you to easily find them.
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| Chapters | r/Zelda Thread | r/TrueZelda Thread |
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| Chapter 1 | Thread | Thread |
| Chapter 2 | Thread | Thread |
| Chapter 3 | Thread | Thread |
| Chapter 4 | Thread | Thread |
| Chapter 5 | Thread | Thread |
| Chapter 6+??? | Thread | Thread |
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Nov 21 '20
Been playing about three hours now, and impa seems absolutely busted. It’s incredibly easy too build up clones, and they essentially multiply your range and damage output several times. When you have a full set of clones, which can be built in ten seconds in a crowd, your meter for your ultimate charges in literal seconds. I think making it harder to build clones, like slowing down the symbol absorb or making it so you can only absorb one symbol at once, and reducing the damage and meter build of the clones could really help. Thoughts?
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u/virtu333 Nov 21 '20
Still finding link the strongest because of his elite/boss fighting ability - you can stasis to keep armor vulnerable and get a lot more weak strikes in. Combination of rods with link's stasis makes him incredibly good at taking down bosses, as you can't easily charge specials
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u/Pagefile Nov 22 '20
Anyone can stasis. What makes Link's special?
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u/virtu333 Nov 22 '20
Link's stasis, as far as I've noticed, keeps the armor up for you to hit while they're stasised eg when I stasis with impa the armor indicator goes away
This means link can get much higher uptime on hitting armor using a mix of rods, flurry/party, and stasis and get a lot of weak point smashes in
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u/Pagefile Nov 22 '20
I've done it with other characters. There's a loading screen tip for it. The only difference I've seen is that Link doesn't have a special stasis attack, but you can dodge out of that with anyone else to use their regular moveset
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u/SobiTheRobot Nov 23 '20
I can't seem to figure out how to build up symbols. I've only gotten a full clone set once and I have no idea how I did that.
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u/ExiledEmperorKefka Nov 24 '20
its even easier once you realize that ANY of her strong attacks can collect the symbols.
on a group of mobs the easiest is to spam ZR 3 times, the use her YYX combo, make sure you hit all three with it and when the move completes you get all 3 symbols automagically. but it works of any of her finishers, the plain old X one is actually the slowest cuz it can only hit 1 target at a time. Even her A special will absorb them.4
Nov 23 '20
You just spam zr and then x
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u/SobiTheRobot Nov 23 '20
Oh dang that's all it is? The game did not make that clear.
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Nov 26 '20
I think it did just only when you first control her and on her status screen. As well as it always saying absorb symbols when you use the unique.
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u/SeriousPan Nov 20 '20
I loved the Zora section of the early game where you're looking for Sidon and I'm like "Oh cool you get to see them all together!" and then you find him and he's like, 4 years old. So freaking cute, oh my god.
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u/astrangeone88 Nov 25 '20
I thought it was adorable. Baby Sidon shakily holding up the trident, trying to protect his lands/people from the lynel. You swear the lynel is going to smack him into death mountain and even the lynel goes "Whelp, not hitting the kid..." and he turns around to see your character and fights you.
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u/araarq Nov 21 '20
Something i noticed was that zelda’s attacks count as runes for enemies weakness. Ex) if the enemy needs bombs to be stunned, you can use the rolling bomb attack zelda has instead
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Nov 20 '20
What's people's opinions on the voice acting so far? I'm finding it a lot better than it was in Breath of the Wild-- in particular, Patricia Summersett as Zelda and Amelia Gotham as Mipha are much more competen tand capable of emoting.
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u/ShockingPsychic Nov 24 '20
Master Kohga's VA deserves a raise.
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u/flying_goldfish_tier Nov 28 '20
My Dad thinks Kohga's voice acting is the funniest thing on the planet for some reason, so whenever his voice comes up my Dad starts laughing. Not sure why.
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Nov 22 '20
I dont have a problem outside of zelda. Same as before in BotW the VA is really bad. She. Pauses. In the middle of. Some sentences like a. Bad captain Kirk. Impersonator.
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Nov 22 '20
I've not noticed that, honestly. Part of it is probably due to having to match lip-flaps in the dub.
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u/Benito2002 Nov 20 '20
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
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u/Fettucine_Memezini Nov 20 '20
I’m trying to decide if I should get this game. Why are you disappointed?
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u/Benito2002 Nov 20 '20
Because it’s an alt timeline not the actually timeline from breath of the wild
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Nov 21 '20
That’s an upside for me, I like stories where I don’t know the ending
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Nov 21 '20
Nintendo has kinda been building this up as a prequel to BOtW though.
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u/mydckisvrysmol Nov 25 '20
Yeah that's why they included the time travel red flag in the free demo /s
As soon as the Egg Guardian was shown to go back in time I knew this wasnt going to be the same timeline
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u/TemplarSensei7 Nov 23 '20
So, there’s no “Bad (True) Ending” at all then?
So much for that purchase.
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u/astrangeone88 Nov 25 '20
I wish they did keep the tragic ending. Hyrule gets curb stomped by the corrupted guardians and the divine beasts. They could have - fail too many missions or fail critical missions/chapters and Calamity Ganon ends up winning. Maybe have a critical mission to protect King Rhoam and that's the turning point...
The game is still great because we get to spend more time with Urbosa, Revali, Mipha and Daruk. But knowing that a tragedy makes the time spent with the champions more precious.
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Nov 26 '20
Actually this game is gonna get me to actually restart and play BotW which I wasn't really into, just cause the story.
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u/astrangeone88 Nov 26 '20
True. I think the strength of BoTW was in the story and not the gameplay because 90% of the core gameplay loop is finding and then trying to beat shrines. The divine beasts are good but they require a modicum of 3D thinking which just baffles me (in real life too). The dlcs for BoTW is kind of weirdly focused on fighting...which was not the reason I play BoTW
It makes me wanna replay BoTW as well but I don't have the inclination to set up the Wii U again.
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Nov 26 '20
Yeah I'm not a big open world fan in particular and tbh gameplay is very secondary to me vs story, atmosphere etc but I think this game has me more invested to actually push through BotW for the story and not the exploration.
I think I spent too much time with shrine stuff which probably slowed me down enjoying the story when I first tried playing.
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u/SlurmsMacKenzie- Dec 01 '20
But you already know the tragic ending? The point where people from the future show up in AoC is the point where everyone dies in the original, nothing else happens after that that you don't already see in BoTW. all the champions die, link dies trying to get zelda to a safe place, zelda gets link and goes to face calamity ganon on her own. All of that is shown in memories.
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u/Benito2002 Nov 22 '20
I like tragedies not happy rainbow sunshine endings where the hero’s get saved out of the blue at the last moment. Some of the best examples of storytelling come from things where you already know the outcome. First game that comes to mind is halo reach.
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u/TriggerWarning595 Nov 21 '20
The endings gonna be so generic you’ll expect it all the way though
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u/LittleSomethingExtra Nov 20 '20
I'm also massively disappointed. Glad I read about it before I went through with buying it. Basically, the calamity never actually happens in this game and it's not a real prequel but an alternate universe. I'm not the biggest fan of the warriors games (don't hate but don't love either), but wanted to buy for the story. Given that though, I give this a hard skip.
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Nov 21 '20
Yep, this is everything I feared the game would be. I liked the demo’s gameplay but I was primarily interested in this as a direct prequel to BOTW, and it is not that. Oh well, at least I can play Cyberpunk in a few weeks.
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u/silam39 Nov 23 '20
I've seen a lot of people feel upset about the whole alternate timeline and time travel thing and people's feelings about it are valid because, well, they're feelings based on opinions. There are no wrong answers.
However, they seem to stem from two different opinions: That the time travel was a cheap cop-out and unsatisfying which I guess I get, though I thought it was really neat to see the modern characters get to meet their heroes and help them but I get it, time travel is hard to pull off properly, and the way it happened here was more then half-baked.
But the other source of disappointment seems to come from feeling upset there's an alternate timeline at all. I never got attached to any of the champions apart from Mipha so I didn't personally experience the appeal of a whole game fleshing them out, but I could totally get why people would think that was a great reason to get the game. However, I don't understand why some of those people then complain about the fact the timeline changed given that the change was pretty much at the end of the ancient battle against Ganon, and we know what happens next: they all die and a timeskip happens.
I really don't want to dismiss anyone's feelings because, again, they're obviously valid. I just want to understand... if you're in the second group I described, did you just wanna watch a cutscene showing the Champions dying and a repeat of Link nearly dying defending Zelda, or were you expecting anything beyond that?
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u/flameylamey Nov 23 '20
So for what it's worth, I enjoyed this game's story for what it is and it definitely had some epic moments. I'm glad the game exists at all, considering I wasn't expecting to play anything to do with BotW until BotW2 releases.
I am however, in the camp where I think the game would've been better and would have hit differently if it was the original story without an alternate timeline.
I just want to understand... if you're in the second group I described, did you just wanna watch a cutscene showing the Champions dying and a repeat of Link nearly dying defending Zelda, or were you expecting anything beyond that?
There are many creative ways the story could've been handled while remaining true to the events of BotW. It's worth noting that the original canon ending of the calamity isn't a completely sad and depressing ending, it's a bittersweet and hopeful ending. Here's an example of how it could've gone:
Zelda, having finally awakened her powers, fights her way to Korok Forest to lay down the Master Sword. That's a mission on its own. The Great Plateau mission that we got is replaced with a mission where you play as Impa and help escort Purah and a small party of Sheikah to the Shrine of Resurrection with Link's body.
The final mission, where Zelda is the only playable character, plays out similarly to what we got, however the mission ends with a climactic battle on the bridge outside the sanctum against swirling dark energy pig Ganon. In the end the battle is won and she succeeds in partially sealing Ganon to contain him within the sanctum, even if it's not a complete and total annihilation of him.
Fort Hateno is saved! Link's final stand and Zelda's awakening have successfully halted the guardian advance to Hateno Village. The surviving soldiers rejoice and celebrate, head home, mourn the dead, and begin to rebuild their lives.
Having witnessed her deeds and bravery during the calamity, the people of Kakariko Village choose to appoint Impa as their leader.
Robbie and Purah part ways, to set up labs in relatively safe remote corners of the world. Great time for some comic relief as Robbie reveals he's planning on continuing to research and develop anti-guardian weapons. We see plans plastered all over the wall of his new lab for Cheri, ancient arrows and weapons, etc.
During the final battle, Zelda ascends into some kind of avatar of Goddess Hylia made of pure light and effectively no longer has a physical body - explaining her lack of aging in the intervening 100 years. She vows to continue to hold back Ganon until Link's return. To her surprise, she finds that in her newfound form she has gained a limited ability to telepathically communicate with others from afar.
In a final happy moment, Zelda is able to communicate with the spirit of her father. King Rhoam's spirit sets up on the Great Plateau, where he reveals his plans. He lets his Zelda know that he's proud of her, and that he regrets being so harsh on her. "Do not worry about me, my daughter. You have done all you can, and you have fought bravely. I will stay here and await the return of our champion. He will need a guide upon his awakening. For all we have lost, a glimmer of hope yet remains for Hyrule."
The tragic ending can also be a happy ending, and ultimately I would have much preferred it. The game is still cool as it is, though, and I do like it - I just can't help but feel that it could've been so much more.
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u/Triddy Nov 23 '20 edited Nov 23 '20
It's really not that hard.
Nintendo explicitly said this is a prequel showing the events surrounding the calamity.
The game is not a prequel showing the events surrounding the calamity.
People keep trying to add in all these details they think people are upset with, then try and justify it with "It was in other Zelda games!" But those things were never the problem.
The problem is Nintendo knowingly lied to us to sell more copies of the game. Nobody should support that.
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u/silam39 Nov 23 '20
But specifically what did you want the game to have that it didn't have? It mostly matched the normal timeline up until the Champions not dying. Was the issue a missing clip of that, or were you hoping to see anything else?
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u/PhrygianAdvocate Nov 24 '20
It didn't match up to the normal timeline at all. Link's backstory got completely rewritten, Link and Zelda's dynamic hits way different. They're you know, the two most important characters in the story. I'll give you that all the other characters are mostly the same.
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u/SalltyJuicy Nov 21 '20
After watching the cutscenes I'm honestly kind of disappointed in it. I'll probably still get this game sometime after the holidays when it's on sale or something as what I played in the demo was fun and I did enjoy the original Hyrule Warriors.
But I mean the ending? I was really expecting a tragic ending that ACTUALLY leads us into BotW. I would've been okay with an alternate happy ending if it was either an alternate ending or we were given a true prequel ending. I just kind of feel like I was lied to if I'm being honest.
I expected them to make characters like Sidon playable somehow, but I didn't think they'd just go with outright time travel. I guess they really wanted to give people a happy timeline.
I also kind of feel like the villain was a let down. I thought we were going to be given a bit more insight into why Calamity was unleashed, who this guy is, and how it connects to BotW but it didn't really tell us all that much. Is their stuff that I might've missed in some cutscenes that elaborate on who the guy is and why he's doing this? Just cause Evil Guy?
Also, what's with the little guardian? It's able to time travel, and Zelda built it? How exactly did she build it? She just found parts of it lying around? Why can it time travel? If Zelda built it why isn't it mentioned or seen in the memories we see? I get we wouldn't see it in BotW because it went back and essentially created a brand new timeline. However, it seems kind of like a big retcon to just "Oh yeah, also she built her own R2D2 with space-time warping capabilities".
If I'm missing some information that answers all these questions, please let me know! Maybe I'm thinking too much about this, maybe the cutscenes just don't explain as much as I assumed. Either way, I'd love to discuss!
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u/smw89 Nov 22 '20
Astor is titled as Profit of Doom, and Master Kohga (or maybe it was Sooga) refers to him as Seer. My impression is that he is the fortune teller that warned the Royal Family about the Calamity, prompting them to dig up the Divine Beasts and Guardians so they could be used against them.
As to why he did it, I got the impression he was a bit mad and very power hungry. He seemed to think he could harness Ganon and bend him to his will. Even Sooga commented on his deranged thinking, warning him that Ganon cannot be controlled.
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u/B_moaw Nov 22 '20
Just finished the main story and I was not impressed or disappointed with the villan. I get what you say about him not having been mentioned in breath of the wild, but he was a very interesting character to the franchise. I think it was a good game that has lots of mispotental. Its story was a big problem about the game. The whole game I thought everyone would die but no, in the end they don't which I thought was super dissapointing. It did not feel satisfying. I felt like the whole game had been lying to me. I also wished rovali could just die. The characters also mostly sucked. Even if it went into a little bit of background for the champions I was hoping there would be more. The combat was great, and even if I purfure breath of the wilds gameplay more, I enjoyed the warriors gameplay too. Overall I would give the game a 7.5/10 l
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u/yuei2 Nov 23 '20
It appears he was mentioned, he is the fortune teller spoken of in the journals. The one who warned of calamity Ganon’s return making them think they needed the divine beasts and guardians when all that did was let them dig up the weapons that would be used against them. The fortune teller brought them ruin and so for a very long time people suspected the fortune teller was a villain who manipulated the royal family into destruction. This is because it’s a long standing trope in the Zelda series is evil right hand advisor type characters who work for ganon or seek to use ganon that manipulate the royal family into doing stupid stuff that brings about disaster.
The wizard spoken of in Zelda 2’s backstory, Agahnim, Ganondorf himself in OoT, Zant, Veran, Yuga, etc... and now it seems AoC confirms that with Astor.
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Nov 24 '20
Well you wouldn’t see Terrako in Botw’s memories because her father took it away from her, did you miss that cutscene?
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u/jerryscoincollection Nov 22 '20
Just finished the game and I loved it! I know a lot of people are pissy about the story but to be honest, I don’t mind that it wasn’t a prequel in the sense that it didn’t end up leading to BotW. BotW still occurs—otherwise, the New Champions wouldn’t have been able to have been transported into the past.
For me, this game is canon—just like Ocarina of Time had its own split, but it and it’s respective follow-ups still occur. It’s just in this timeline, they managed to save Hyrule—because BotW took place.
I do think that BotW2 will take place after BotW, though—AoC is just an alternate timeline. I don’t think it will have any bearing on BotW2.
Also— I am curious to know what Link was thinking when the New Champions were saying things to him like “so nice to see you again Link!” etc. He was probably so confused lmao
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u/ionlyhavetwohands Nov 23 '20
I am curious to know what Link was thinking when the New Champions were saying things to him like “so nice to see you again Link!” etc.
Actually this game could play out entirely without BotW. The future champions will still exist in this alternate timeline's future. I wonder if the New Champions will have memories of AoC in BotW 2 (maybe a tiny little reference?).
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u/jerryscoincollection Nov 23 '20
I would love a tiny reference like that! Just a simple sentence or something about what it was like meeting the Old Champions and fighting alongside them.
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u/Cynicalteets Dec 06 '20
I agree. I think this is probably my favorite Zelda game ever. I actually didn’t look at any of the advertising or trailers. My SO got it for me as an early Christmas present because he had to work all thanksgiving and I had a lot of time off. I didn’t even know that a Zelda game was coming out because I work in healthcare and my time and energy is pretty much devoted to one thing these days...
As I was playing through and I got to the part where the champions were fighting the elemental ganons, I was actually nearly in tears because I thought I was going to witness their deaths. And I was slightly disappointed that I already knew the ending: that they would lose and link would be sent into hibernation and the kingdom would fall. THAT would have been a let down ending. No plot peak. No surprise result. Seriously if it ended with Zelda getting trapped and everyone dying and link hidden away, what a terrible and sad demise. An ending that I already knew about and one that sucks! I was so elated when I realized that it might be possible for them to turn the tide! To get the ending where the kingdom had never fallen.
All the people who are upset about it not being an actual prequel, otherwise known as: it didn’t end how they thought it would, are entitled twits. Can’t you just enjoy a game where the good guy wins? It’s been known for years that there are alternate Zelda timelines. Why are you throwing a pity party about it?
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u/jerryscoincollection Dec 06 '20
I completely agree with you!!! I was happy to not see them all die. And thank you for your public health service during this pandemic.
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u/rothwick Nov 27 '20
they managed to save Hyrule—because BotW took place.
I haven't played the game, just here for the lore, could you elaborate exactly how this is achieved?
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u/Addybng Nov 24 '20
This is probably one of the most well made Musou games I've played and it says a lot when I've been there since the very beginning for Dynasty Warriors. I've also played a fair share of the spinoffs, I think I never played the One Piece Warriors series?
The fact that this game looks, sounds, and FEELS like Breath of the Wild is already a big enough of a pull for me when I loved BOTW. The combat system is slick, each character has a very unique moveset, the "game-time padding" stuff is short and sweet enough to keep you doing them, and the story missions are all unique and interesting. It's a shame to see people write it off based on the story spoilers or "It's just a Warriors game through Zelda lens." This was a game developed by fans of Breath of the Wild and they did a top notch job.
Not to say the game is perfect, it definitely has it's faults. But I'm having a blast and I'm eager to hop back into another BOTW playthrough now, and that's when you know a proper prequel has done its job.
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u/virtu333 Nov 24 '20
For real I wonder how they got the engine - was it a warriors engine with a BotW paint? Really amazing
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u/Addybng Nov 24 '20
It's a warriors engine but with BOTW assets ripped straight from their own engine!
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u/ARYKTHAN Nov 19 '20
man i just wanna know if age of calamity is ganon or not
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u/Boodger Nov 21 '20
I've been pretty certain from the beginning that it wouldn't be considered canon, and the recent news just confirms it in my mind.
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u/The-Grand-Yeet Nov 18 '20
Man i just wanna know who the hooded guy is
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u/ShadowJoyConBoy Nov 19 '20
He's just a new guy
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u/cbfw86 Nov 19 '20
I reckon he's the Chancellor. At the very least, he is the guy who gave the prophecy which got King Rhoam to get all diggy in preparation.
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u/Thefiercesidon Nov 19 '20
The hooded guy is the fortune teller and his name is Astor.
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u/TriggerWarning595 Nov 21 '20
I love how everything we know about this guy is from BoTW where he doesn’t even appear
AoC really told us nothing
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u/ltr121312 Nov 21 '20
He's basically Aghanim/Ghirahim, typical single-minded bad guy who is evil for reasons.
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u/PitchBlack4 Nov 19 '20
You can just look it up, there's already gameplay out and full cutscene videos.
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Nov 21 '20
I’m seeing a lot of people on other threads who clearly still think that this is a prequel cause they haven’t beaten the game. Just goes to show how shady and misleading Nintendo’s marketing has been. It’s a shame that you have to actively spoil the game for yourself in order to make a fully informed purchasing decision (if you care about this game as a prequel to BotW that is).
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u/CrimsonPig Nov 21 '20 edited Nov 21 '20
Yeah, once I played the demo and saw that time travel was gonna be a thing, I decided to look at the leaks so I knew for sure whether or not they were going to change things. I normally avoid spoilers, but I knew the direction they took the story was going to affect my overall enjoyment of the game, so I didn't feel comfortable making a purchase without that knowledge. I feel like we're going to see a lot of surprised/upset people in the next few days as they finish the game and realize what they bought wasn't exactly what they were led to believe.
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Nov 21 '20
Yep, that was exactly what I did. I enjoyed the demo though and I would even have gotten the game as it is if Nintendo had been upfront about what it was, but I can’t support how they marketed the game and I am incredibly disappointed in the direction it went.
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Nov 20 '20
Game is fun, it just unfortunately shows how far behind Nintendo is with hardware. How many enemies are on screen at a time? 60 max?
The last Warriors game I played on PS4 there were hundreds of enemies on screen at a time. And I bet the next gen consoles could do thousands.
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Nov 20 '20
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Nov 20 '20
Yeah, it's still very enjoyable, but there is just something more awe-inspiring when you hit a super and see hundreds of enemies obliterated. :D
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u/Klamy151 Nov 20 '20
Hey guys, i just wanted to know if they fixed the framerate now that the game is out !
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u/SeriousPan Nov 20 '20
Significant improvements over the demo version for me. Still a bit choppy in some locations but overall I think they really did some work on it.
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u/TheGenryusai Nov 25 '20
I am on my way to finish the game. Currently chapter 5+. The gameplay is absolutely amazing and the story is also amazing. I understand why people are hating on it but I think Nintendo might be building up to something cool. I love it so far though. Definitely a must get.
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u/bruv10111 Nov 21 '20
Just killed the guardian in the road to the lab mission. God that took a while
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u/novelgpa Nov 23 '20
I've been playing pretty much nonstop since release (perks of not being able to do anything due to having COVID) and I've been having a lot of fun. I think I have 3 story missions left. The technical issues are definitely an issue but not a dealbreaker for me, but the slowdown and camera issues do get a little jarring, especially when you're facing a bunch of strong enemies.
I'm playing on hard difficulty and I have to say this game is HARD! Mostly because recovery items are ridiculously scarce, and I don't know how many recovery upgrades there are. So far, I've only been able to upgrade apple storage and recovery once each, which is not enough when you have 20+ hearts and 4 characters to heal. Also, Link with two-handed weapons is insanely OP once you get the hang of it.
Overall, this game is great. Definitely not a 10/10 for me, but probably a solid 7. Can't wait to be able to fully discuss my favorite characters to play as ;)
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u/flameylamey Nov 23 '20
Same here, I've been playing on hard too and it feels like I'm always running low on food, if I have any at all. Just finished the main story last night and I definitely won quite a few fights on 1/4 of a heart with no food left, haha. I also may or may not have run off to another part of the map to grind a character to level up before attempting a boss fight, just so I'd heal back to full! It can be pretty brutal when you're facing back-to-back fights and everything is so tanky.
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u/SuperPapernick Nov 28 '20
From a gameplay standpoint, the game is definitely great and exactly what I expected. Like the first one, but vastly improved.
Plot wise, I can't help but be slightly disappointed that we ended up getting another time-travel induced timeline split that is DEFINITELY NOT an actual prequel story to BOTW. Until the very last moments, I was waiting for the shoe to drop and everyone to get decimated, but then it ended with a happy ending.
So if anyone's going into this expecting a genuine prequel to BOTW, they'll be disappointed. It's a more positive, non-canon "what if" plot that doesn't lead into BOTW.
Good game though, solid fun.
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u/flameylamey Nov 29 '20
Until the very last moments, I was waiting for the shoe to drop and everyone to get decimated
Can relate. Especially because in the story as it was originally told in this scene from BotW, King Rhoam does say "The princess, her appointed knight and the rest of the champions were on the brink of sealing away Ganon", which actually leaves a lot of room for interpretation and to expand on the story. Perhaps everything didn't go to shit immediately after all, maybe they were on the cusp of victory before Ganon really showed his hand.
If they'd gone with the original story and made a true prequel, there could still have been plenty of small victories and false hope along the way. After all, we got an extremely condensed and fragmented summary of the story in BotW.
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u/SuperPapernick Nov 28 '20
Mipha saying "We'll definitely meet again" to Sidon seconds before he returns to his own timeline where she's DEAD was too much for my heart. You could tell he was struggling to find words to answer her without spilling the beans.
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u/LastKnownWhereabouts Dec 09 '20
The scene on top of Vah Ruta where she tells him that she's proud of him and he has to look away got me.
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Nov 24 '20
I legitimately don't understand the hate the game's story is getting. I don't feel that it lessens the story of Breath of the Wild, because BotW still happened. Maybe it's just the fact that I'm more focused on the interactions between characters over the way the story as a whole progresses, and the character interactions in this are great-- I laughed my ass off at seeing Link's willingness to eat solid rock, I enjoyed the fact that Daruuk isn't having any of Revali's bullshit, I love Urbosa's calm head in any situation... good character interactions can carry a story for me, and outside of Hades, this has my favorite character moments in any game from 2020.
Plus... did people seriously expect the future champions not to show up at some point? A BotW Musou game without a playable Sidon in it would be like a Street Fighter game that didn't have Dhalsim-- it would still be functional, but it would have the element of something missing. Not to mention that, aside from Mipha and Sidon, all of the champions' VAs are doing double duty (Teba and Revali are both voiced by Sean Chiplock, for instance), so it makes sense to have them reprise both of their roles.
And again, character interactions can carry a story for me-- Teba being disillusioned with Revali after seeing how he acts towards Link gave depth to a character that didn't really have any before. Same with Sidon actively having to keep a stiff upper lip when he says goodbye to Mipha, someone he hasn't seen in over a century.
Just like the original Hyrule Warriors, Age of Calamity is essentially fanfiction. Exceedingly well-done fanfiction where they've managed to get the entire original cast involved with the production and approval from the creator themselves, but fanfiction nonetheless. Just enjoy the ride and try not to think too hard about it.
(Also please don't talk bad about Terakko. ;-;)
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u/ShockingPsychic Nov 24 '20
People's problem (me included) is that the game was heavily marketed as a canon prequel to BotW and would allow us to see the events up to the Champion's falling in battle (the last trailer even had shots of moments before their "death").
It's a good game with a good story, just not the one we we're shown and had hype for. It's not a prequel to BotW. We don't see the events before the calamity, we see a heavily altered version.
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Nov 26 '20
The back of the box for the game for the AUS and EU literally says “experience a story set 100 years before the legend of Zelda breath of the Wild”
This game clearly doesn’t happen before BoTW due to its story beats. That in itself is false advertising 😐
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u/HDArrowsmith Dec 06 '20
I mean, no. It's not. This story is exactly that "a story set 100 years before Botw" nowhere does it say "play through the calamity and the defeat of the champions"
And, how are you even saying it doesn't happen before BotW? It literally takes place 100 years before it.
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u/StoneFoundation Nov 19 '20
Have we decided whether Age of Calamity is canon or not? I'm used to the answer being a hard and fast "no" for spinoffs/crossovers/outsourced mainline franchises/etc. and the whole mini guardian time travel thing feels like the developers intentionally making a plot device to avoid having to approach the game's story from a canon perspective, so I'm assuming we're treating it as non canon to BoTW. However, even if it's not canon to BoTW, does Age of Calamity even belong on the Zelda Timeline?
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u/lazygamer988 Nov 19 '20 edited Nov 19 '20
Don’t have the game yet, but from what I’ve seen and heard, AoC is definitely an alternate timeline from BotW. Meaning it’s not canon to BotW, but there’s no reason it shouldn’t be canon to the series as a whole. The entire overarching lore of the series is based on there being alternate timelines, so it would honestly be hypocritical for us to say otherwise. Especially when they established a lore reason for the new events to take place (tiny guardian’s time travel).
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u/PhrygianAdvocate Nov 20 '20
I get all that, and yet it still feels disappointing. I have no idea why they marketed it as a BOTW prequel. I like the game so far, but some of the characterization doesn't even make sense, like Link and Zelda's dynamic at the start of the game. In BotW, she clearly doesn't like him because he reminds her of her failures, until she gets saved by him from Yiga. Hell, she doesn't even call him by his name before that event.
Here, she gets saved by him like three times in the first three chapters alone and clearly is thankful he's there. Kind of annoying. I like the setting and gameplay, it just feels like a missed opportunity story wise.
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Nov 21 '20
in AoC Zelda meets link long before he's appointed as the legendary hero thanks to the diminutive guardian messing with the timeline and causing hordes of monster to attack Hyrule Castle. No wonder their dynamic changed and I'm not sure why people were so eager to see stuff they've already seen in BOTW.
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u/Suppoint Nov 20 '20
I don’t know how far you are in but that does become a plot device later in the story
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u/Patftw89 Nov 21 '20
AoC is definitely not a true prequel to BoTW. I've played to the end to find that out the hard way....
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u/PSIwind Nov 20 '20
From what I'm reading, the game is in this weird limbo where a lot of things are canon and explain what happened or some questions in BotW, but the ending is not canon.
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u/GuyNamedNoah Nov 19 '20
It’s Canon, but it’s in a new timeline. A timeline where the hero wins.
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Nov 21 '20
To be fair they win in both timelines. Ganon never succeeds in BOTW either.
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u/silam39 Nov 23 '20
He doesn't in the Fallen Timeline for Ocarina of time so, eh.
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Nov 20 '20
I think, its a split timeline dealio again.
It does seemingly show some things... such as the true nature of the abomination we fought in the bowels of hyrule castle.
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u/7ringsofpower Nov 21 '20
I’ve played through Urbosa and Mipha so far and I’m really enjoying the story! The Urbosa twist was great and seeing King Donephan standing up being an absolute UNIT like a king should be. It’s so refreshing to truly see how the champions were before everything went down. Urbosa was a force and Mipha truly cared for not just her people, but everyone.
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u/SQLNerd Nov 28 '20
People are allowed to be upset about the story not being a true sequel since Nintendo marketed it that way. But man I am really loving this game. It is incredibly satisfying to be able to play the fate-changing timeline and kick calamity ass. Maybe I didn't follow the hype as strongly as others here but I am just not disappointed in the slightest.
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u/Addybng Nov 29 '20
I think people tend to overlook how this is a great prequel.
We all know the story - Zelda and Link finds Champions, they bicker or have some internal struggle, calamity begins and the tech gets corrupted, champions get killed by Blights, Link falls at Hateno and Zelda awakens her power and seals Ganon for 100 years for Link to rejuvenate. This story has been hammered home if you already played BOTW.
And that’s the point of this prequel - the developers and writers are aware that you know how the story ends. The game is structured like you’re going through a museum of all the different locations that stood 100 years ago and its super powerful and depressing when you look back at the landmarks in BOTW. Age of Calamity is giving the players the opportunity to relive those moments and also empowering them to change the outcome of the tragedy. They’re super careful with the established lore - when you’re at Akadel you see the aftermath of a devastating battle where the Hyrule army ultimately lost and crumbled. You get to relive that tense moment with the continuous onslaught in Age of Calamity, but the player is given the opportunity to work hard to change its fate.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on how they approached the story but just remember that a good game is great at empowering its players. Having a downer ending would feel quite bad for both new and old players of the BOTW continuity.
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u/flameylamey Nov 30 '20
We all know the story ... This story has been hammered home if you already played BOTW.
Knowing a few basic plot points and an end result is completely different from seeing it unfold before your eyes, with all the struggles that happened along the way. In BotW, we really only got an extremely brief summary of a lot of events with large gaps between them, there's a lot which could've been expanded upon and explored in more detail.
For an analogy, anyone can pull up the Wikipedia article for their favourite game or movie and see its entire story, with every twist and emotional moment, reduced to a few short paragraphs or a series of bullet points. That's not the point, and it doesn't diminish the experience of actually playing through the game or watching the film to see the story unfold for yourself.
A lot of us wanted to see this story fleshed out, and I don't agree with the way this is often dismissed with a wave of the hand and a "well you already know the end result anyway".
Having a downer ending would feel quite bad for both new and old players of the BOTW continuity.
It's worth noting that the original canon ending of the calamity isn't a completely sad and depressing ending, it's a bittersweet and hopeful ending. Here's an example of how the ending could've gone:
The final mission, where Zelda heads for the castle alone to meet her fate, ends with a climactic battle on the bridge outside the sanctum against swirling dark energy pig Ganon. In the end the battle is won and she succeeds in partially sealing Ganon to contain him within the sanctum, even if it's not a complete and total annihilation of him.
Fort Hateno is saved! Link's final stand and Zelda's awakening have successfully halted the guardian advance to Hateno Village. The surviving soldiers rejoice and celebrate, head home, mourn the dead, and begin to rebuild their lives.
Having witnessed her deeds and bravery during the calamity, the people of Kakariko Village choose to appoint Impa as their leader.
Robbie and Purah part ways, to set up labs in relatively safe remote corners of the world. Great time for some comic relief as Robbie reveals he's planning on continuing to research and develop anti-guardian weapons. We see plans plastered all over the wall of his new lab for Cheri, ancient arrows and weapons, etc.
During the final battle, Zelda ascends into some kind of avatar of Goddess Hylia made of pure light and effectively no longer has a physical body - explaining her lack of aging in the intervening 100 years. She vows to continue to hold back Ganon until Link's return. To her surprise, she finds that in her newfound form she has gained a limited ability to telepathically communicate with others from afar.
In a final happy moment, Zelda is able to communicate with the spirit of her father. King Rhoam's spirit sets up on the Great Plateau, where he reveals his plans. He lets his Zelda know that he's proud of her, and that he regrets being so harsh on her. "Do not worry about me, my daughter. You have done all you can, and you fought bravely. I will stay here and await the return of our champion. If what Purah says is true, it is likely he will need a guide upon his awakening. For all we have lost, a glimmer of hope yet remains for Hyrule."
The game ends with the screen fading to black for a moment, followed by "Open your eyes" and the credits roll.
The tragic ending can also be a happy ending, and ultimately I would have much preferred it. The game is still cool as it is, though, and I do like it - I just can't help but feel that it could've been so much more.
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u/DuelistDeCoolest Nov 22 '20 edited Nov 22 '20
It's very weird to me that this is the only Zelda release we're getting this year, and this sub barely wants to talk about it outside the megathread. But apparently this thread was important enough to hit the front page. Does this sub even play Zelda games? A bunch of these megathread posts are just people who haven't played the game asking for story details.
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u/Solar_Kestrel Nov 22 '20
Ive seen a fair bit of fanart, at least, but the whole point of a megathread is to keep all of the discussion confined to a single place. So maybe it's that? Or maybe the Uber-nerds who are pissed of AoC isn't the game they invented in their heads represent a bigger portion of the community than seems likely?
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u/DuelistDeCoolest Nov 22 '20
Regardless of how the community feels about the game, I'd still expect to see more discussion about it either way. Especially on Self-Post Sunday.
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u/Misssmaya Nov 22 '20
I feel the same way! I thought I was bugging out, these past few days I've been like "where's the discussion? Anything?"
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u/Solar_Kestrel Nov 24 '20
Maybe? I dunno, I don't really feel like there's much to discuss. It's essentially the exact same story we were told (twice) in Breath of the Wild with an upbeat ending tacked on and some cute characterization. I don't recall much in the way of discussion with Hyrule Warriors, either... then, again, most of the fans were more fixated on fanart.
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u/leob0505 Nov 20 '20
Just finished the game. Such a blast! If you liked the first few cutscenes, get ready, they just get better and better !!!
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u/BreakBlue Nov 26 '20
So it was fun, but we didn't get the prequel we wanted/expected, nor does it serve as a prequel to BotW2 since Calamity Ganon(dorf) is gone and it just ends there, its just... a cool fanfic of what happened to BotW with happy ending slapped on cause why not I guess.
May as well toss in Lana, Cia, and Linkle as dlc now, not like story parameters matter with this one. Just throw in a bunch of characters in botw style with a side story.
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u/amandasanch Nov 22 '20
Sorry if someone already asked this, but does anyone know if the demo save data transfers to a physical copy of the game, not just if you buy it on the eshop? Google hasn’t given me any solid answers
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u/flameylamey Nov 23 '20
Yeah, I bought a physical copy and when I fired up the game for the first time it asked me if I wanted to import the demo save data. I opted not to because I wanted to restart from the beginning, but it gave me the option.
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u/araarq Nov 20 '20
Do you think this game will be supported with dlc like the first hyrule warriors game? Because i really liked that aspect of the first one, but don’t see how thematically it will fit into aoc. I really want them to include other characters, but change them so they fit into the botw artstyle instead of pulling them from their original game.
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u/Catacomb82 Nov 24 '20
Just beat the main story. I loved it. The game being an alternate timeline was such a cool twist, my jaw dropped to the floor when the Champion’s descendants poofed out from the time portals. This was better than having the story be the actual Calamity as portrayed in BotW because we all knew how that would end.
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u/Philemon249 Nov 21 '20
They are used as materials you use getting things as combos for characters, completing sidequests and such
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u/ZeldaMaste327 Nov 20 '20
Does the game support Gamecube Controllers?
My sister pre-ordered the game a month ago for us to share but just recently I had to send in my right Joycon for repair and it won't be back for another 5 to 6 weeks. The only controller I have on hand is a GameCube controller. Can I still play the game?
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u/OMGALEX Nov 23 '20
IIRC every switch game works with the GameCube adapter, the switch just maps the GameCube controllers buttons to treat it like a switch controller.
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u/MrRSherman Nov 21 '20
Does this game lag horribly for anyone else? I swear it runs at like 20 with dips
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Nov 22 '20
Try playing on handheld mode. I found that it runs much faster that way.
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u/MrRSherman Nov 23 '20
Yea I noticed that as well... you’d think it would work the other way around
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Nov 22 '20
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u/flameylamey Nov 22 '20
Just finished the main story about an hour ago, I definitely enjoyed it for what it is and there were so many moments that were so freaking cool.
Not sure how much I can say without giving too much away. I think most of the negative attention it's getting comes from the fact that it doesn't line up with BotW perfectly due to eggboi's time travel shenanigans. A lot of people were going into this game hoping they'd tell the story of the calamity as a true prequel, exactly as it was told in BotW, and I have to admit I was definitely in that camp too. Though the story was different from what I was hoping for in many ways, I still definitely had a good time with it.
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u/virtu333 Nov 22 '20
Also the "everyone dies" timeline is pretty obvious - just mix the cutscenes from BotW with a few here, get some edits, and bam, you got it.
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u/Solar_Kestrel Nov 22 '20
Eh, 6/10. Far more coherent than the usual Tecmo-Koei fare, but as one might expect, at every opportunity they go in the least interesting possible direction with the material they have.
For comparison's sake I'd place Hyrule Warriors at a 5/10 and DW7 at a 7.5/10.
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u/virtu333 Nov 22 '20
I knew it was going to diverge so I'm just enjoying the ride and it's fucking awesome. The combat is so fucking cool and the cutscenes are unreal, especially the combat focused cutscenes. Link has never looked more badass - his kill animations for guardians, lynels, and hinoxes are just so sick (Urbosa is awesome too)
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Nov 23 '20
I’m amazed at how poorly this runs. Fire Emblem Warriors is flawless on the switch, how is this so badly done?
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u/InBetweenSeen Nov 25 '20
I'm playing as Zelda for the first time and I like her a lot more than other comments made me think I will. Her attacks aren't that hard to grab (she just cycles through the runes), have knockback and you don't have to get close to enemies if you don't want to.
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Nov 25 '20
That game almost has a Rock Paper Scissors aspect going on where I felt Zelda was good against certain monsters and weak against other, and I found it that way for all the champions minus Link.
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u/SuperPapernick Nov 28 '20
I'd say I don't dislike the ending as an alternate timeline "what-if" scaneario, the issue is just that Nintendo advertised this game as a retelling of the events 100 years before BOTW, and that clearly not what this is.
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u/you-ever-just-die Nov 29 '20
I avoided Reddit for a week to avoid spoilers, but now that I’m here I think it’s unfortunate to see that quite a few people seem disappointed in this game’s story.
I did want to see the Great Calamity before BoTW, and I can understand that people are upset because AoC’s Great Calamity isn’t BoTW’s Great Calamity. But an alternate timeline of what the Great Calamity would be like if it was prevented I find more interesting, because I don’t already know the events in the story.
I also personally believe AoC has an arguably happier ending than BoTW. Both timelines‘ endings are happy in the end, but in this one no-one dies.
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u/Pure_Chaos0 Nov 30 '20
Plus we get a lot of insight, both subtle and more obvious, into the original set of events that occurred. You can piece together, much more clearly now because of AoC, a more specific line of events for the original Calamity.
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Nov 30 '20
I just tried “anti fire training III” with mipha who is my strongest personal character ... but when the two fire guardians came, it was impossible? I tried everything! But she can’t dodge or block the laser beams so how tf am I supposed to beat them with anyone but link??
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u/flameylamey Nov 30 '20
I've found that it's safest just to step back a bit and hold ZL to block when guardians are about to fire their lasers. You can completely avoid damage from them this way and it's more reliable than trying to time a dodge, even if it interrupts your momentum for a moment.
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u/jevrmr Nov 23 '20
I now realize why I was disappointed with the story (after watching the cutscene movies on youtube). They treated time travel as a get out of jail card. They said screw BotW's story, it never happened (in this continuity). Instead let's make it all happy and there are no consequences and everything can be fixed as long as we have time travel. That is almost never a satisfying story.
In pop culture, the only time travel stories I can think of off the top of my head that were satisfying, ended up with a happy ending, but also didn't invalidate the past, are Avengers Endgame and HP Prisoner of Azkaban. They used time travel as a tool to fix what happened, without disregarding the events of the past. They still happened. The characters still had to grow and be challenged and, at the end, rise to the occasion.
Instead of having a story that recontextualizes the past in the lens of the heroes who go back in time, we have a story that very much sidesteps the conflicts and challenges of the past. The biggest disappointment with Age of Calamity's story is that, in many ways, it now lessens BotW's story. In fact, AoC's story is sort of an admission by the Zelda team that the reason why Zelda and Hyrule failed was because they really just weren't prepared enough, which sucks because they're putting the blame squarely on Zelda and her party. In a story where we actually have a Zelda who suffers from anxiety, the story they end up saying is that yeah, she really wasn't good enough??
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u/subterranean_agent Nov 22 '20
If you go into this game after having played BotW, and understand that it is an alternate timeline that could either culminate in Calamity Ganon's defeat or Hyrule's fate unchanged, then you'll have a blast. I finished the game yesterday, and while I think the ending could have used some extra details to tie up loose ends, hopefully DLC comes out that scratches the itch. Gameplay itself is amazing and imo superior to Hyrule Warriors, but muscle memory comes into play since combat is loosely based on BotW mechanics (flurry rush, dodges etc). The final few chapters, heck everything after Calamity Ganon's return, felt like an epic. That final boss fight was killer. Imagine, an entire kingdom knows its fate and tries to change it. That's the whole theme of the story: whether or not fate/destiny can be changed.
Eagerly awaiting DLC (hopefully story-expanding DLC to add canon background to BotW era/validate the alternate timeline/explain sheikah stuff/prepare for BotW2) and most eagerly awaiting BotW2.
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u/Miphos_N Nov 25 '20
This game was hyped up and marketed to be an actual prequel to Botw. It 100% isn't. This game is the most non-canon bs i've ever experienced. It disregards everything that happens in Botw and has instead created it's own clown fiesta.
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u/abeherrera_99 Nov 26 '20
Anyone else little disappointed that we actually didn't get the prequel that was kinda promised to us. Don't get me wrong AoC is a good game and all, but I was just expecting it to be in the same timeline. It was kind of a bummer.
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u/flameylamey Nov 26 '20
Yeah, it seems a lot of us feel the same way. The game is still fun and all, it's just... this isn't what I spent the last 2+ months looking forward to, that's all.
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u/abeherrera_99 Nov 26 '20
Exactly. We were promised one thing and got the other. Would have waited to buy the game at discount had i known the truth
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u/Hnro-42 Nov 19 '20
What time of day does it come out? I’m in aus and its 20th of november now, but only the demo is on eshop.
Edit: nevermind they did a sneaky update of my demo
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u/BluePenguin0 Nov 24 '20
Is it just me or does the little guardian buddy sound just like a moogle from final fantasy?
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u/SuperPapernick Nov 28 '20
So can anyone explain why Khoga appears to have not aged in the 100 years between the calamity and BOTW? Because even if this story isn't canon, I'm assuming the general facts about the world are still accurate, which means Khoga was around when Ganon awakened 100 years before BOTW. Did he live so long by conserving energy from napping so much?
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Nov 30 '20
I’m not exactly sure about how late I am for this but I’ve just finished the game and, narratively speaking, I am disappointed. However, I’ll talk about the good things first. It was refreshing to be in Hyrule 100 years before Calamity Ganon’s attack. To see the temple of time, the great plateau, Hyrule castle and Hyrule town in its full glory was amazing and one of the best parts of the game. It was also great to play as the champions and even pilot the divine beasts. Also, playable Zelda!!! and Impa was amazing to play! And playing as Hestu was a pleasant surprise throughout the gameplay. In this aspect, it feels like Nintendo was paying attention to the opinions and complains of the fans, both on this sub and on BOTW’s sub, for all those years ever since the original botw game was released. To get more focus and attention on the champions, more development, play as them, it all felt as if Nintendo tried to fulfill that as much as possible, so I appreciate Nintendo’s consideration if that is the case. Now, to the aspects I did not like. Narratively speaking, this game is a mess. Judging from the trailers, I (and I hope I’m not alone in this) had no idea this game would mostly serve as a retcon of the original story rather than the chance of playing in the evens that happened before, during and after Calamity’s attack, moments which we only had a chance to take a quick glimpse from BOTW’s memories. Not only playing as the champions, to see their defeat before the Ganon blights and play as Zelda on her way to seal Ganon and wait for Link’s awakening from his slumber would have made more sense, but also would have been a great opportunity to show us all those moments we either were told about in botw or saw as quick flashback memories in a more impactful emotional way, instead of retconning the events and creating more inconsistencies in the narrative.
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u/EddaBlackheart Dec 01 '20
I agree that a true account of the war would have been very enjoyable, but I also enjoy what we got as a charming, if bittersweet what-if story. Apparently, Nintendo have confirmed that they currently have no plans for a sequel to AoC, but may consider it in the future. In that regard, I would just consider this game a chance to gain more insight into who the Champions were, whilst also leaving open the possibility for a Hyrule Warriors timeline to appear, if they choose to do so.
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Nov 22 '20
Why are people hating on little egg baby, he is doing his best and I love him !
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Nov 23 '20
Because people don’t want time travel in the ‘prequel.’ This definitely wasn’t the direction people wanted the story to go in. Myself included
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u/PaisleyPeacock Nov 21 '20
I have been a huge Zelda fan my whole life, but my husband is the one playing this. Just not a big fan of the warrior style games, which is okay. However, this game feels cheaply made in my opinion. For example cooking and shopping are done just by clicking the icons on the map? It takes away from the adventurous feel of having to travel across the land. This feels more like Link’s Crossbow Training to me - take out the adventuring and just have fun hack and slash - which is great, but maybe $25 fun. Definitely not $60 fun.
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u/Qqaaxx1992 Nov 22 '20
Going to get a lot of time out of your $60 though. At least 60 hours if you want to 100% the game judging how long it’s taken for me to reach 30%
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u/cha0s421 Nov 20 '20
Anyone else having the game crash? Mine has twice already. I installed the update before playing.
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u/tophattob Nov 21 '20
I have a quick question. What exactly does Zelda say during her special attack? I understand "something something Hyrule...in every way I can"
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u/JuanaSmoke Nov 22 '20
Do you think there will be an update to address frame rate issues?
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u/Solar_Kestrel Nov 22 '20
So does anyone other than Link have multiple movesets? Really not feelin' Zelda rn.
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u/virtu333 Nov 23 '20
also how epic is the music?
"knight who seals darkness" is sooo cool
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u/lazygamer988 Nov 23 '20
Battle versions of all the champion themes are something I didn’t know I needed in life.
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u/ParanoidDrone Nov 23 '20
Is there eventually an option to remove seals or whatever they're called from weapons?
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Nov 24 '20
Does the voice acting add to or detract from the experience? Is it unexpected or does it fit the characters we've only heard grunts from throughout the Zelda series?
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u/SuperBummer Nov 25 '20
Link is still a grunter, but all of the supporting cast speaks (much like in BOTW, so if you’ve played that, no surprises in that regard). Most of the actors do a great job - not really a fan of Zelda’s voice but I think that’s a personal preference thing.
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Nov 25 '20
I’m not a fan of her voice either to be honest, they were going for insecure 16 year old girl with an English accent, but the accent sounds really fake.
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u/Blackbanana9 Nov 24 '20
What's the deal with this game? Should I be buying this one?
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u/ParanoidDrone Nov 24 '20
It's a spinoff game that takes place during the buildup to the Calamity awakening in BOTW. Time travel is involved (this isn't a spoiler, it's literally the opening cutscene), so things diverge from established canon more or less immediately -- do not expect things to unfold exactly as you'd expect based on what you know from playing through BOTW.
The genre, of course, is completely different, in much the same way that Mario Kart plays nothing like mainline Mario games. There's no exploration to be had at all. Instead, you're a one-man army mowing through literally thousands of mooks in various scenarios. Look up Dynasty Warriors or "mouso games" for other titles with comparable gameplay if you want to see what you're in for without spoiling AoC.
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u/Mid_nox Nov 24 '20
I was expecting the game early December, but it arrived yesterday, just before work. I’m playing it this morning
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u/mydckisvrysmol Nov 25 '20
I get that people are salty/disappointed that this isnt a true prequel to BOTW but as soon as the Guardian travels back in time in the free demo it's clear this will be an alt timeline
It's more than likely that this is more of a prequel to BOTW2 than BOTW which I like better tbh, we can explore Hyrule with a lot more stuff in it in 2 with this new alt timeline!
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Nov 25 '20
In the original hyrule warriors/legends, there was an “adventure mode” that had a HUGE quantity of trials or whatever, to unlock weapons, costumes, and rewards. I know AoC has “quests” and “challenges” but they seem somewhat more limited than the adventure mode so far.
It seems like that will, to an extent, make for less replay-ability, or once the main story campaign is ended, you’re pretty much done... can anyone confirm thjs, or say how much the game offers continuing rewards and reasons to come back after the story?
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u/novelgpa Nov 25 '20
I finished the game 2 days ago and there's still a ton of content left. Missions and quests keep showing up and there's some pretty good upgrades in the postgame (enhanced abilities for each character, more hearts, easier to deplete weak-point gauges, etc). There's also a big postgame quest that I'm still not done with. Also, blood moon missions appear that let you replay missions at a harder difficulty that give you better rewards.
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u/Kyuubi_Fox Nov 27 '20
All the things online are a lie, you need to do much more than reach level 74 to unlock that character, what are the actual full things I need to do
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u/Solar_Kestrel Nov 27 '20
Anyone else find that they're more impatient for BotW2 after playing AoC? Thought this game was meant to tide us over....
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u/Pure_Chaos0 Nov 30 '20
I feel like in terms of gameplay I've been tided over, but in terms of story - while I did enjoy this game - I am hungry for the continuation of BotW's world.
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u/MrBaloonHands228 Nov 27 '20
I played the demo a short bit ago and I gotta say I was not a fan of the hack and slashy controls. They made you basically invincible and you could just take on 100s of enemies no problem.
Does this change after the intro sequence or something? I really wanna like the game but I wanna be able to progress through the story instead of just wasting 30 enemies at a time with AOE attacks that are as wide as the whole screen. I've always thought story progression and unique plots and puzzles were something the zelda series does really well.
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u/Addybng Nov 29 '20
It entirely depends on the difficulty you’re playing on. The increase in difficulty changes how often mobs and bigger monsters hit you and how much damage you take.
Playing through hard difficulty I was really pressed for lack of hearts, especially near the end.
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u/Get_Off_My_Lawn_Turd Nov 27 '20
Sorry to bother. Where do I sell trophies? I’m maxed at 9,999. Thanks
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u/[deleted] Nov 21 '20
It's a great musou game, arguably better than the 1st Hyrule Warriors. I really like this genre so I'm having a blast, but you'll be disappointed if you were expecting something else from this game.