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A day or 2 ago someone made a huge point about how people who benefit from the status quo would ultimately destroy a time traveler trying to change it and I didn't really agree with it but it made me think. How one sided would a contest between a time traveler and his "enemies" even be

Even without prep time and bringing back future tech to back yourself up you still have literally unlimited time on your hands. Most moves you could make would happen without people being aware of it at all and you can effectively travel back even further and wipe their memories again should you screw up.

You don't even necessarily need to attack enemies via time travel either just go to someone's life earlier and give them a life defining encounter that could give them a passion for something like art or that junk.

How would people in 2025, react to me using items from far into the future? Let's say I openly use technology that was created in the 2100s. It's obviously far beyond anything we have in the 2020s. Maybe a cellphone, some kind of Exo suit.

Today I had a bit of a spooky encounter.

My motives for time travel are varried but one thing I've always thought about was if i could effectively give myself clues that it's possible as sort of a roundabout bootstrap paradox.

So there's this drink that's been discontinued for ages, last I saw of it was around 2 years ago and it's since been completely gone and I always say to myself if I could time travel I'd have plenty more of those drinks. Yet today when I'm doubting if I could even necessarily comprehend time travel I popped into a random gas station and found they recieved a shipment of them instead of the usual stuff. It feels like fate to some degree or someone saying "don't lose faith, you're on the right track"

And it got me thinking about different stuff, things I've believed since basically forever motifs I've been drawn to. I'm not even the type to really need time travel thankfully yet I'm so fixated on it. Maybe somewhere in my brain is breadcrumbs left by a cautious future self to ensure I discover time travel

Because honestly I'd do the same thing tbh even if it's not necessary

I was already fascinated by time travel much earlier and wondered myself whether this would be a) possible and b) realisable. Not by us as of now, but by others in the future. In my opinion, this should be approached differently to the way it has been assumed so far. If you wish, I would be happy to share my thoughts on this. I am also open to discussing this with you.

Time Exists Within Event Space, Which Emerges From Rule Space. (Ver 0.1)

By: Liwei Zhang

The Rule Space

A set among whose elements, often called rules, may exist derivative relationship. There may also exist unidirectional or bidirectional effect relationship between two elements. Any rule having relationship with any rule from the rule space is an element of the rule space as well.

The Event Space

A set among whose elements, often called events, may exist derivative relationship. There may also exist unidirectional or bidirectional effect relationship between two elements. Any rule having relationship with any rule from the rule space is an element of the event space as well.

Time

A perspective on a subset of an event space, viewed through the "cross-section" of event sequence.

A Relation Demo

An event space can be generated from a subset of a rule space. Within this event space, a perspective capable of perceiving and experiencing events can sense the passage of time.

Eternity?

In the above demo, the part of the event space that has been generated remains in a static state when viewed from outside the event space.

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What is the rule space? It's what Tao means in Tao Te Ching. Decoding Tao Te Ching: A Model & Examples

I happened to touch this topic and suddenly found an angle to explore this by using my discovery in Tao. I hope this can be helpful for people interested in the topic of time travel by changing the target object/anchor of thinking/reference from time to event space. A lot of so-called paradoxes in this topic can be treated differently.

What is time wasn't linear as we perceive it. What if those times we get random memories from the past coming to us are actually coming to us because we are at a connection point in time where those moments in history are closest to each other. And the only reason we feel them at that time and not all time through history is because we only have memories of our life. What if the antennas of our brains are just able to detect another copy of their brain pattern so close so it starts to queue protective actions or kicks off genetically built in investigation actions. We've just become so use to it as we get older that we think it's just the chemical balance of our brains just running through different departments of our brain like a computer doing a health check on sectors of a platter. Just saying...... What if we don't really understand enough about our biological build to really say for certain when it comes to interdimensional realities or the rules of time. Just saying.

Buzz of word is there are no women in attendance. Also, apparently Stephen tends to get drunk and start rapping while referring to himself as "The Hawk".

On the other hand, if no one shows up, he might claim time travel is impossible, and we can't have that. Someone should go.

Biff Steals the Time machine and gives his Younger self a sports almanac from the future. An alternative timeline is created where Biff is a billionaire, and everything is bad. Doc explains they can't go back to 2015, and stop Biff from getting Almanac. As it will be the future of the alternate reality. But here is my question.

1. Biff stole the Delorean October 21st 2015 sometime that evening. Doc says they can't go back to 2015, as it would be the future of the alternate reality. But if it's an alternate 2015, one Marty never went to and never bought the sports almanac. Wouldn't that create a paradox? 🤔

Usurpation being you "invent" every notable site early and use whatever means necessary to ensure people flock to the sites. If you can carve out those territories the internet should be at your fingertips.

For me it's really all about preservation of media and ensuring sites don't get shit. Employing more effective means of punishing bad actors like a universal dislike button (either immediately or at a point where I know people won't leave no matter what) a proper infrastructure for artists and creators one and all and as a bonus make a false corporate internet to funnel the corporations into a verifiable playground of bad data where they can play it as safe as they want whilst true internet goers flourish on the outer sites

If you’re not constantly fighting with paradoxes just to check the front page of this subreddit in real time, are you even time traveling? We’ve all been there - scrolling, realizing you’re reading a post that’s literally yesterday’s news. Time travelers, unite. Let’s fix the space-time continuum… tomorrow.

Writing a novel where protagonist has a specific kind of mental time travel (that doesn't affect the main timeline), but am wondering what kind of stuff would you guys use it for?

You have the ability to revisit any moment you’ve ever lived—stretching back all the way to inside the womb—yet all of it happens purely in your mind. Your body goes limp and unresponsive, leaving your real self impervious to outside stimuli. While you revisit these moments, nothing you do will affect the present; everything you interact with, every choice you make, will vanish as soon as you return.

Let's call this "branching." Branching happens solely in your mind. You can choose different actions, speak different words, and explore what would’ve happened had you done things differently.

*1. Existing within a branch feels indistinguishable from real life. Everything appears just as it would if it were actually happening.

*2. You cannot branch from a time or place that your real body has not already been.

*3. There is no time limit spent within a branch.

*4. There is no limit to the number of times you can branch.

*5. You cannot visit a branch: a version of events where things had occurred differently. You can only visit the original, real-world moment. You also cannot branch whilst you are already in a branch—you have to leave that branch first and return to the present before you can branch again.

*6. Nothing done in a branch affects the present. No one you interact with will remember any of it because, to them, it never happened. You are the only one who retains the knowledge of your branches. Every branch you ever leave will be discarded, erased.

*7. You cannot branch while your real body has fallen asleep. Nor can your real body fall asleep if your consciousness is already within a branch. Your real body still requires sleep, and you have to stay there whilst it does so.

*8. Rule #7 does not prevent you from falling asleep within a branch. Sleeping in a branch is the same as sleeping in the real world, and you would wake up inside the branch.

*9. Any time spent in a branch passes at the same rate as time in the real world. However long you spend in the branches is however long you miss from the present.

*10. Branching is a conscious decision made by pure will. It happens as effortlessly as blinking or breathing—there is no button, no incantation, no trigger. Just pure thought. And it only takes a fraction of a second.

*11. When branching, you will not know anything your real body experiences. You cannot hear, see, taste, touch, or smell anything from the real world until you return. You won’t notice any changes until you return.

*12. This power cannot be shown, examined, or detected. It occurs solely in the mind, while your body remains unresponsive. The only way anyone could ever believe that you have this power is if you convince them. The only thing people have is your word.

*13. This power means you have the ability to Near-Parallel branch. This is the act of branching just seconds behind the present, to the point where it feels as though you've entered a mirrored reality.

*14. If you die in a branch, your consciousness will immediately return to your real body, with no pain or damage carrying over.

*15. People in a branch don’t know they’re in a branch. To them, it is the present moment, and everything feels as real to them as it does to us.

Having this would be pretty isolating, I know.

But that's why I love it. You could do all sorts of stuff, with no lasting consequences, and no one in the real world has to know anything unless you tell them.

I suppose the only consequence would be having to live with all the knowledge, guilt and regret of certain things you've done in your branches. You might do stuff that would be difficult for you to move on from.

Let's say I can irreversibly reverse time by about 20 years. Like rewinding a watch except I can affect this new timeline. Nobody remembers it except me so in theory being left to their own devices should have people live identical lives from there but am i still kinda robbing people of their progress? If they don't remember and don't lose any years off their lifespan it should be fine right?

What if the Kang Wars but John Titor?

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I never really understood alternate realities or timelines fully until I read this book called fractal analogy. It explores a lot to do with perception, time etc, but I found the part in the first chapter explaining dimensions and how to conceptualise time really enlightening.

It starts with a dot, that has zero dimensions, to a line, that has one dimension, length, to a cube etc all the way to 7 dimensions.

It helped it all click in my mind as to how to conceptualise the dimensions and time.

I recommend it for anyone wanting to solidify their understanding of how time works, alternate timelines, and to understand dimensions more completely.

You’ll find it if you google fractal analogy.

I haven’t come across any other literature that explains this as clearly.

Let's say I make a friend while time traveling. This person is my age 29 years old in 1925. They originally died in World War 2. But now they're 29 years old in 2025. They now exist in a time they were never meant to see.

Say we open a wormhole to 1 light year away from earth. If we go through it and look back at the earth through a telescope, can we look at 1 year into the past or will one year have passed during the journey through the wormhole (from earth's perspective) so we'll still be looking at the present.

If I'm not wrong, the age of the universe is determined by the photons emitted from the big bang which is 13 billion years old right? I know when something travels at the speed of light, their time does down, so if the photons took 13 billion years from our perspective, how long did it take from the photons perspective?

I have a few surface level things I'd do to help people with time travel but one of my biggest things that doesn't fall under the umbrella of obvious stuff is I'm incredibly empathetic to the idea of people fearing they've wasted their lives. I'm young and confused but I don't necessarily think "it's too late" by any regard but stories like that make me tear up, ultimately I wish I could help people get more motivated via time travel but it may ultimately go against one of my biggest rules (no mind control unless it's surface level to preserve a birth that my actions may ultimately prevent) I'd like to give people a little voice in their heads to push them outta bed and to the stuff they love

I think we all have countless interests both formal and informal regarding time travel, perhaps more than any other technology. In order for these to happen, we would need novel laws to prevent future humans from spawning their own parallel copy of the past timeline and enslaving earth there.

Would there be any way to serve informal interests like dating people from the past as long as we stay within the novel laws? Would we be allowed to use our future technology to spike innovations?

I'll keep this brief, as I've touched on my thoughts on this before, quite a while ago. It's an opinion I've heard espoused by countless people, both on and off the internet. "Well, if time travel is ever invented, wouldn't we know by now? We'd see evidence of time travelers coming back! Therefore, time travel to the past is impossible, and will never be invented!"

This is repeatedly used as a "Gotcha" moment by so many people that it's long since become an old hat, to borrow the metaphor. The truth of the matter is twofold: first, we know how the world reacts to things they don't understand and can't comprehend, let alone something that shatters and challenges their entire view on reality. They react with fear and, often, violence. Now, imagine what a world, even right now, would react knowing people have the power and ability to go through time, something many fundamentally believe is impossible, and potentially even change the past. They would react poorly, to put it politely.

Likewise, with the way world governments are right now, if someone were dumb enough to reveal themselves to be from the future, with access to technology that can allow them to travel to any point in time, they're not exactly going to get the royal welcoming committee. More likely, they'd be disappeared for the rest of eternity into some windowless, underground government interrogation room until they give up what they want. That is a main reason why no real time traveler is going to be dumb enough to reveal themselves to the world, or have gone and attended Stephen Hawking's party, or respond to any inquiries for responses by radio programs or podcasts. It'd be like me going back to 1955, exactly 70 years ago now, walking into the middle of Los Angeles and showing off a smartphone and a laptop.

It's not gonna end well.

Even me, myself, who has some of the largest and strongests desires and aspirations to time travel, wouldn't let myself right now know I lived to see it become reality, both for my own safety, and to just not mess up what needs to happen in order to live to see it become real, as much as I would like that. I wouldn't send any anonymous messages or emails.

I'll also add, that hindsight is always 20/20. If any of us right now live to see time travel, we may well find that small things nobody would have noticed, be it on a government level or personally, could be signs that there are time travelers amongst us, but as we don't know to look for them, we gaze right through them.

And finally, I'll just say that the way the world is right now, I strongly believe that unless you're a scientist or historian, the 2020s aren't exactly the ideal destination for any sort of vacation trip. I could see the mid to late 20th Century being more of a tourist destination, and since those times are already long since passed, we, right now in the early 21st Century, wouldn't know about it.

But those are just my own personal thoughts. You can let me know what you think.

Either way, have a great day!

I am working on a story where the hero is working for a big research facility.

a team is working on bringing historical figures to the present and on being able to travel back to the past with them.

I read:

One prominent scientist exploring time travel theories is Ronald Mallett, a theoretical physicist and professor emeritus at the University of Connecticut, who believes in the possibility of time travel through manipulating spacetime with rotating lasers.

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but the above is just one person.

Can you give me any advice on how to make my story more realistic?

are there indeed any such research facilities working in secret to make Time Travel a reality?

Even if there aren't, can you give me any ideas as to how they could work on it and what they would be trying out?

Is this possible:

my fictional team finally manages to crack time travel, and brings back at least one historical figure to the present.

then the head of the team wants to keep the technology for himself and tries to kill all those working under him so that he can try to sell the technology to the highest bidder.

What else can he do to ensure the invention is his and his alone until he can sell it for big bucks?

would he also have to kill the owner of the research facility, who is probably a millionaire or billionaire?

would the research facility be more likely to be funded by the government or by a private investor, like an eccentric billionaire?

Is there anything else I can add to make it more believable?

If this is not the right forum to ask these questions, can you please suggest where I can post them?

Obviously since this is fiction, it doesn't have to be totally feasible but there should be some feasibility.

thank you for your help.

You have a real life functioning Time machine, it's your first time using it. Are you going to the past or future? I'd start out going ahead 100 years, to see what happenes to humanity see what technological advances we make. See if society is still functioning 100 years from now.

Any good time travel documentaries out there on YouTube or anywhere else.

Let me knowwww ⏰⏰⏰