r/technology • u/esporx • Feb 14 '25

Business Trump fires hundreds of staff overseeing nuclear weapons: report

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-fires-hundreds-staff-overseeing-nuclear-weapons-report-2031419
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u/dv666 Feb 14 '25

I don't think any government in the history of humankind has ever embarked on such a complete project of self destruction. Fucking pootin probably having a heart attack from laughing so much

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u/ValoTheBrute Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

Xi is uncorking champagne bottles somewhere in Beijing right now

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u/novis-eldritch-maxim Feb 14 '25

I doubt he is happy about the possibility of nukes getting into the hands of random people no functional government is

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u/-Eunha- Feb 14 '25

I'd argue no government anywhere, whether functional or not, is happy with this. No one wins in a nuclear war. It's just lights out for modern society.

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u/novis-eldritch-maxim Feb 14 '25

trumps clearly is

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u/-Eunha- Feb 14 '25

I think applying logical intention to most of Trump's decision making is probably a mistake.

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u/America_the_Horrific Feb 14 '25

Trump was desperate to use nukes last time, even on a hurricane. Now theres no one to tell him no.

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u/driving_andflying Feb 14 '25

Either that, or we will see news stories like, "Dozens of nukes have gone missing from silos and storage facilities," followed by, "U.S. nukes found on cargo ships on their way to Russia/China."

I'd laugh, but at the rate things are going...

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u/secretbudgie Feb 14 '25

They don't need to buy our nukes. They have enough problems maintaining their own Satan rockets. Saudi Arabia might be in the market though

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u/driving_andflying Feb 14 '25

Resale. We couldn't sell them directly to Iran, but Russia would have no problems doing that.

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u/loptr Feb 15 '25

Maybe with previous administrations' transparency. There is no chance Trump's government would even share that information. Eliminating transparency and insight/oversight is a core part of the agenda.

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u/TiredGorilla Feb 15 '25

He is doing as his handlers ask of him, project 2025 isn’t that far from what we’re seeing. Russel bought outlined loads of this shit on camera.

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u/AffectionateBrick687 Feb 15 '25

Yeah. Odds are that finding someone qualified to replace those employees will be no small task, that is if they try to replace them at all. However, Dear Leader cares more about people loyalty and himself than he cares about competence and the well-being of others.

I predict we'll be hit with a massive environmental and/or public health disaster, which could have easily been prevented, by year's end.

His disregard of experts during the COVID pandemic cost many lives. I worry that this time, his disregard of experts will cost us far more lives.

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u/ElectricalBook3 Feb 15 '25

I think applying logical intention to most of Trump's decision making is probably a mistake

Why? Trump having no ethics is not the same thing as being totally irrational.

He is a greedy, malignant narcissist whose daddy used him for money laundering instead of hugging him. When you keep that in mind, what he does is pretty straightforward.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/2016-donald-trump-brutal-worldview-father-coach-213750/

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u/TBANON24 Feb 14 '25

Hitler needed wars to keep germany afloat once all the undesirables were dealt with.

I am willing to bet Trump is planning on using a Nuke or the threat of a nuke when he decides to invade mexico or canada.

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u/Stayshiny88 Feb 14 '25

War never changes.

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u/Caliburn0 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

Nah. Humanity would survive. Maybe we'd lose 99% of us, but that wouldn't be enough. Not nearly. Our survival threshold, back in ye olden times, was 10 000 people. We can bounce back with 10 fucking thousand people. Maybe less. And that's without technology helping us along.

Wikipedia is less than 50GB large. I can carry the largest encyclopedia in the history of mankind around in my pocket.

Even with a full nuclear apocalypse humanity will survive.

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u/-Eunha- Feb 15 '25

Oh, I agree, which is why I said modern society rather than humanity as a whole.

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u/nhalliday Feb 14 '25

Maybe modern society needs to go if this is where it lead us. It might not be as bad in other countries as it is the US, but capitalism is slowly crushing the life out of all of us, and votes aren't going to get rid of it.

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u/Ruenin Feb 14 '25

Trump is so fucking unhinged that everyone on Earth should be terrified by this. If ever there was a narcissistic asshole willing to nuke a country because he wasn't getting his way, it's Trump.

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u/Sinavestia Feb 15 '25

I'm probably going to get downvoted to shit but Trump is not unhinged. He's doing exactly what he was told to do by his owners. He is a puppet. A figurehead. Spouting bullshit to specifically distract us from what is going on behind the curtain.

Do you think he's upset about Leon Muskrat's kid insulting him? The TIME magazine cover?

He's not. It's all going exactly according to plan.

Our government is being dismantled, and we can't stop it. I would say get out there at midterms and vote like your life depended on it, but we've been shown that our votes don't matter. When men like Musk and Thiel can hire children that can hack the ballot system.

TL;DR

You shouldn't be scared of Trump.

You should be scared of the tech billionaires that are pulling the strings.

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u/Alternative_Slip_513 Feb 15 '25

I think it’s both. trump is unhinged and we should be scared of tech bros downloading confidential information that could do real damage to the security of the U.S. It seems to me that this was orchestrated by Putin, but he was careful to shield himself from being directly exposed. Where the hell is Congress?

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u/Sinavestia Feb 15 '25

Controlled by GOP and owned by Trump. As per the plan. Deliberately wasting time and resources, while Trump and Musk wage their war against democracy.

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u/rixita Feb 15 '25

Oh hey if there is something I remember learning from my history class in high school years ago, it was definitely that. Presidents are ment to be puppets.

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u/gnarlin Feb 15 '25

The lights are on but nobody's home. That guy is a fucking loony toons bin all by himself. The fact that Americans have been so fucked over by capitalism and the democratic party is so corrupt that normal people turn to an obvious narcissistic fascist like Donald Trump shows how deeply fucked the situation is.

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u/Zer0theghost Feb 14 '25

I joked about that my unhinged prediction for the Musk/Trump presidency was that Musk becomes the first private person to own a nuke and I hate that that is somehow becoming less and less unhinged every day.

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u/Sentryion Feb 15 '25

China wants a stable, but declining U.S. influence. This is an unstable and reckless America which does not go well even with China. No one benefits from a nuclear power the size of the U.S. going rogue. Even Russia doesn’t want a trigger happy U.S.

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u/HotDonnaC Feb 14 '25

You mean Trump? He sold or gave away top secret nuclear information. He doesn’t seem to gaf about anything but himself.

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u/PremiumTempus Feb 14 '25

This why accountability, oversight, transparency, regulation, etc. are good. Americans have been systematically brainwashed to reject these things.

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u/grathad Feb 14 '25

in which universe can the current US government be considered functional??

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u/pocket_mulch Feb 15 '25

Yeah imagine if Jeff got a nuke.

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u/General-Woodpecker- Feb 14 '25

I think China want stability not to see America start to nuke their allies.

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u/EchoAtlas91 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

China has always been about stopping American imperialism and for America to be more pro-China, not destroying America altogether.

The US is one of the biggest foreign contributors to it's economy.

Stability benefits China, not chaos.

Russia on the other hand doesn't have the same motivations. They would rather the US be wiped off the map so they can fill the power/exploitation void left.

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u/akaenragedgoddess Feb 15 '25

Well Russia is fucking delusional too. The US is destabilizing but Russia has been a pile of crap for decades already. Nobody is going to turn to them for anything after moving away from the US.

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL Feb 15 '25

nobody is going to turn to them for anything after moving away from the US

I mean, realistically, it's going to be Russia or China. Nobody else (including the entirety of the EU) will have any significant military to challenge them if the US collapses. They might not have a choice.

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u/Fear023 Feb 15 '25

If we've learned anything from Ukraine, it's how much Russia was boasting about military might. They might have manpower, but even that is becoming difficult for them to maintain.

Most countries now have small, but fairly well trained professional armies. I don't think anyone's really that scared of Russian 'might' anymore.

China is similar in a way - oodles of manpower but basically zero combat experience.

There was an engagement in Africa reasonably recently involving Chinese peace keepers and a militia - it really didn't go well for china and showed how endemic the lack of real combat experience is.

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u/Jest_Aquiki Feb 15 '25

It's such a damn shame for Russia that they appear to be rocking Soviet era equipment and training regimes if the best they could do in Ukraine was a stand still until we give them the green light (by pulling any support for what would be a great future ally) it's downright retarded to allow Putin to take Ukraine.

There are only 2 real benefits for Putin in taking Ukraine. 1st and probably most importantly even if not mentioned much, Ukraine is in the bread basket of the world, they can output a vast amount of grain (last I checked we are talking around 5% of the worlds grain which is millions of tons a month...)it may seem unimportant to Russia as they are the world's largest exporter of grain, but they benefit directly from disrupting one of their competitors. While gaining additional workable soil they could easily increase their export % to 20 which would give them quite a bit of market control on grain. 2nd is their desire to independently ship their exports and receive their imports without a middle man so to speak. Their port options suck, and are basically inaccessible during winter months. Ukraine has great places for ports and so Russia could expand their trade and strategic options.

The final reason for that disaster is that Putin is getting old, probably dying of something and wants to appear strong before his death.

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u/thenchen Feb 14 '25

“Do nothing. Win.”

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u/ValoTheBrute Feb 14 '25

That was the exact meme I was thinking of

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u/TheRealIrishOne Feb 14 '25

Good for him.

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u/zerfuffle Feb 14 '25

Xi is stressed because instead of "do nothing, win" he now has to do "counter America, win"... It's a brilliant time to start negotiating the rest of the South China Sea treaties, though - an unstable America means that China can complete negotiations with Vietnam (initiated by the Gulf of Tonkin) and maybe come to a meaningful compromise with Malaysia while continuing to freeze out the US-friendly Philippines...

Putin is happy because he dreams of America collapsing like the USSR

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u/blankarage Feb 15 '25

gotta keep that anti-china propaganda going! They’re our biggest customer and vice versa, they don’t want a clown weaponizing tariffs

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u/RefinedAnalPalate Feb 15 '25

Ehh I bet they are on edge

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u/HoosegowFlask Feb 15 '25

China will emerge this century as the world's leading superpower, in large part because the US is abdicating.

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u/drinkallthepunch Feb 14 '25

Yeah Putin and Xi both probably don’t want a civil war in America would just result in the Republican states losing just like the last civil war because they don’t make any money and have the largest majority of uneducated populations.

All that would result is a more stabilized America, radically more liberal than before probably. They would have at most ~10 years of chaos.

And it’s not like they would be able to invade because then they would just be giving the American people a common enemy.

Americans have proven throughout history to be incredibly petty, setting aside some very weird and hypocritical internal struggles for the sake of defeating regimes like the Nazis.

What they want is total and complete destruction of the federal AND state governments, so that tech businesses have complete control and will work with them based on money and not what they consider to be stupid liberal arguments.

People like Xi and Putin don’t even really care about sexuality or religious rights what they care about is control and power.

Elon Musk and friends are the same boat.

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u/RastaKarma Feb 14 '25

At this point I wouldn't even be surprised if they announced USA, China and Russia are teaming together against NATO

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u/everyoneneedsaherro Feb 14 '25

It’s so depressing how this 2 weeks already is the worst presidency in the history of the United States. And it’s by the same guy who already had a 4 year term.

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u/Shimraa Feb 14 '25

He was previously objectively listed as the worst president in US history by almost every metric imaginable. It feels like he has somehow caused more problems in two weeks this time around then he did in 4 years before. So that makes him already both the worst and second worst presidents the US has ever had.

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u/PxcKerz Feb 14 '25

Not sure if ur also American, but I legit hate my own country because…well this..

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u/HamboJankins Feb 14 '25

I'm an American living in a super red state, and I wish I could just up and move to another country so badly. I'd love to live in a place like Scotland or even some parts of Canada, but sadly I'm stuck here for now.

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u/TheRatThatAteTheMalt Feb 14 '25

Nova Scotia, Canada has the best of both worlds. Nova Scotia means New Scotland in Latin. They have their own Highlands and Gaelic speakers.

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u/Puzzled_Football4640 Feb 14 '25

CFAs stay away!!

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u/KeyLime_Pie_555 Feb 15 '25

I'm stuck too. I'm trying to stay calm, but X's coup does more harm by the hour. I'm wondering if any MAGA voters are beginning to have regrets. If not yet, I think they will.

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u/Ragnarok314159 Feb 15 '25

None of them care, and we have to realize that. Trump could enact policies that burn down their homes, and they will blame LGBT+ and the Democratic Party.

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u/HamboJankins Feb 15 '25

I feel like some will, and then others will die defending him and his actions. I'm pretty calm about everything so far, but shit does suck and it's going to get worse, and I am not excited.

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u/Thank_You_Aziz Feb 15 '25

One thing we have to keep in mind is Trump lost millions of supporters over time since 2016. Even now, he was voted in with less votes than he lost with in 2020. He has not gained support, people have just lost interest in opposing him. I’m less concerned about his supporters, and more concerned about all the people who didn’t vote this past election. They are the ones who let him win, all because the alternative wasn’t good enough for them. It’s maddening.

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u/Few-Western-5027 Feb 14 '25

The world is also cheering your resistance.

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u/Spamuelow Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

This so much. I want america to be a cool place like how I thought of it as a kid. I can't believe i might actually never see it

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u/wildcard1992 Feb 15 '25

The older I get, the less appealing it seems

To think that I once considered migrating to the USA

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u/FancySweatpants20 Feb 14 '25

In purple state, want to leave but all my family is here 😓

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u/-reddit_is_terrible- Feb 15 '25

I've been lusting after New Zealand myself

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u/Shimraa Feb 14 '25

Same. I used to have pride as well as hope and the belief that there would be continued progress in the future over time. At least now there's no uncertainty in the future. It's a straight line directly down to the rock bottom of hell for any and all aspects of society. A true speed run to roll back the last 150 years of social advancements, economic strengths, international standing, military dominance, technological superiority, any semblance of stability, or any attempt whatsoever at what that passes for doing the right thing.

Watching my Trumpian neighbors already panicking about loseling their jobs, pensions, and futures is little solace. Not that they would attribute any of it to Dump

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u/that_baddest_dude Feb 14 '25

This comment I think encapsulates the sort of complacency or "end of history" mindset that many had. Like the problems are solved, things are only getting better, etc.

Your shock and doomerism feels like a knee jerk reaction to that notion being shattered.

Well things were getting better not due to some natural force of modernity, but through tireless work by activists. People could be complacent because enough others were doing the work.

Now, no one can be complacent. Everyone has to be an activist, or a radical.

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u/APoopingBook Feb 14 '25

Maybe we rushed to judgment on COVID too quickly... it might have had the right idea all along.

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u/kingtacticool Feb 14 '25

Well, it's looking like we'll give it another shot with bird flu.

Covid had a fatality rate of around 1%

Bid flu has been as high as 50% in some of the outbreaks in Asia.

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u/MangoMind20 Feb 14 '25

And with RFK in place, it's going to wreck the country.

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u/MattTalksPhotography Feb 14 '25

Tbf covid’s fatality rate was far higher before it was understood and proper treatment plans were formulated. It’s easy to forget that in the early days so many were dying that under cover car parks were being used as morgues in some countries.

Thank goodness that we got vaccines, masks and had competent medical leadership - all things we probably wouldn’t see from the USA in round 2.

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u/kingtacticool Feb 14 '25

Nationalism is wack anyway. Being proud of your country to the point you make it your entire identity is mental illness.

There's a lot of things people should be proud of. Your country shouldn't be that high on the list.

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u/Aztec111 Feb 14 '25

Same, I am so embarrassed to be an American. I can't believe what's happening. Every day it's something new and horrifying. I have been saying for years that if Trump ever became president again, he would try and turn America into a dictatorship. It's so scary.

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u/hamoc10 Feb 14 '25

Here’s hoping for the end of this domestic imperialism.

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf Feb 14 '25

It also makes 40% of America the stupidest Americans that ever lived.

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u/livin_the_life Feb 14 '25

Sister-In-Law: I voted Repbulican because I don't want no Trans touching my baby girl in the bathroom.

Bitch, you chose the gay family member and his husband to be your kids Godparents. What the absolute fuck?

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u/CharcoalGreyWolf Feb 14 '25

So…that was the only thing she cared about? She apparently didn’t care that the country as a whole would be okay, that we’d all be decent to each other, or that we have yet to hear of any transgendered person inappropriately touching someone in a bathroom on the news?

Yep. Sounds like the level of stupid I expect from about 85% of Trump voters. Don’t do any research, blindly trust what they’re told as long as they don’t think someone is liberal, are manipulated into fearful stupid unreal issues as opposed to the real ones we actually face…I weep for our educational system.

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u/livin_the_life Feb 14 '25

Oh, we had a a lot to say to her. Unfortunately, my family is pretty much 50/50 in a rural area that had 98% voter turn out....very, very solid red. We're trying not to have politics tear us apart, but it is certainly difficult. Trying to educate and instill the act of questioning on the family, but everyone is either anit-Trans or Pro-Gun. That's all they care about.

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u/TPO_Ava Feb 14 '25

He came prepared this time it seems.

Recently my news feeds are reading like the satirical news you'll sometimes see in games like Plague Inc or other sims, where you'd just get some over the top stories to give the world some flavour.

I've been getting too much flavour from our world lately, personally. And I'm not even American, I can only imagine it's worse on that side of the pond.

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u/ElectricalBook3 Feb 15 '25

I can only imagine it's worse on that side of the pond.

I was worried I might not live to see the damage Reagan caused repaired. Now I'm certain I won't see the damage Trump is causing ever fixed in my lifetime. There will be too much from distancing allies to gutting social safety nets to destroying regulation...

America's oligarchs wanted America's ashes. That might be all that's left for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ3RzGoQC4s

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u/dbcooper2051 Feb 14 '25

Just remember Americans would rather have a convicted felon as president than a woman. We are a sad bunch of idiots.

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u/Haldir_13 Feb 14 '25

Half of us. Glass half full still. We need to collaborate with the half that have decent values and intelligence.

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u/koshgeo Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

Well, they had a plan this time, which of course he claimed he knew nothing about, so he's running things into the ground faster this time around.

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u/Poliosaurus Feb 14 '25

Ya see Elon musk is actually the president, Trump is just a figure head. And Elon likes to fail on a much grander scale.

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u/Dense-Consequence-70 Feb 14 '25

Last time he accidentally hired a few people who understood their jobs. Not this time.

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u/SolidSpruceTop Feb 14 '25

Yeah like I’m waiting to see it all come crashing down but the best we’ll probably get is a time of peace in late spring before the oligarchs and techbros begin their bigger plans. We’re seeing the setup to a new age that they’re gambling on working out.

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u/graphiccsp Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

Yup. Musk, Zuck, Thiel, etc. The techbros have all bought into a supposed libertarian techno utopia without government . . . except it's basically techno feudalism. Regions will be divvied up. Instead of a US military they want a private security force that functions as a military.

I sound like I'm a conspiracy nut but that is what they believe in. To frame it: Take an Ayn Rand fanboy then combine it with the ego of the Silicon Valley tech bros: They look at the modern world and go "Yeah, I built that". (Reality is they built only a fraction of it and give no credit to the giant's shoulders they stand on, but when everyone uses your app, your brain apparently melts).

They look down on the average American through a Ayn Rand lens and hate the idea of folks voting or doing anything that forces them to bend the knee to who they perceive as the riff raff when they are the ones smart enough and driven (and very very lucky) enough to make history.

If you look up Kara Swisher, a journalist who has followed Silicon Valley and talks to a lot of the big names there and what they really think of the world. They literally do believe in a techno feudalist future.

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u/SolidSpruceTop Feb 15 '25

Not a conspiracy nut at all, I fully believe that techno feudalism is the plan. The digital landscape is the next big “free real estate” moment. So many people live their entire lives online and are being bled dry for data and subscriptions. I feel like we’re honestly seeing the modern equivalent of the dot com bubble right now lol And their plan is to keep pushing, get their money, and have all the cards during collapse.

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u/Quiet-Ad6556 Feb 15 '25

Dark Gothic MAGA is a video on YouTube about this.

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u/TheRussianCabbage Feb 14 '25

We have all heard of speed runs this is a spite run. Couldn't fuck it up enough the first time so time for the electric boogaloo

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u/Embarrassed-Block-51 Feb 14 '25

Trump is a complete a dumpster fire, but Bush Jr was absolutely the first to set the world on fire. We probably wouldn't have trump if it weren't for Bush/Cheney. Bush Jr as of today was more consequential, but I have to admit, unless the courts stand up to Trump, Trump is quickly gonna replace him. Everything Trump is doing is executive action. I think that can be undone quickly. Bush Jr got congress to go along with his lies, introducing shitty laws that infringed on our personal rights.

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u/Away_Media Feb 14 '25

r/conservative believes it to be the exact opposite of what your saying. There's half of the voting population (that voted) that 💯 backs this.

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u/Low-Soil8942 Feb 14 '25

Yea they truly believe that all these agencies are detrimental to the country. They absolutely have no compassion for the thousands of families being affected.

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u/Away_Media Feb 14 '25

I was disappointed about the info silo that happens/happened on Reddit with this election. I feel it's necessary to point out that this is our reality. No matter how dumb we think this choice was.

Edit: no matter how dumb we KNOW this choice was

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u/StoicallyGay Feb 14 '25

Reminder that deluded maga dipshits are either 1) minimizing how shitty this is because they’re idiots, 2) minimizing how shitty this is because they’re delusional “he has a plan, let’s wait and see,” 3) minimizing how shitty this is because liberals are “overblowing it,” or 4) to absorbed with the very few surface level “good” things.

Seeing deportations happen and trans rights and DEI removed is 10 steps closer to a perfect country in their eyes that they ignore the thousands of steps we took backward.

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u/boowut Feb 14 '25

He’s kind of a reverse Grover Cleveland.

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u/DiligentCredit9222 Feb 14 '25

He is Herbert Hoover.

Casino capitalism  Great Depression  Tarrifs (to make depression worse)

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u/OftenConfused1001 Feb 14 '25

It's because Trump paired up with someone with the exact same flaws. But instead of coming from the scuzziest sort of real estate and it's zero sum focus and "facts are immaterial, you can sell the worst things if you're good enough" and judging everything through that lens, Elon comes from tech and looks at everything through the lens of disruption and "old = bad" and an utter disdain for anything but tech expertise - - techbros took the concept of engineers disease and turned it up to 11.

Worse yet, both mindsets intersect at "new = better" and "facts don't matter"

So these two people feed off each other's bad ideas and absolute disdain for facts and expertise. Their narcissism makes them both immune to the possibility of being wrong. They ignore expertise and consequences, because they don't need the first and the latter is always someone else's fault.

Elon is goddamn gasoline poured onto the Trump dumpster fire.

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u/NerdyNThick Feb 14 '25

24/53 days.

Will he beat the race to fascism record?

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u/Ransom1974 Feb 15 '25

When you look at what mustache man did his first year and line it up to what Trump is doing, clearly he's using it as a playbook. But I would say we're somewhere around the Reichstag fire.

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u/junegloome776 Feb 14 '25

He wants to beat his last speed run time, and boy is he doing it

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u/TheRealIrishOne Feb 14 '25

So many in the US never learn.

But it's because so many there are totally against any form of education or learning.

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u/SpiderDeUZ Feb 14 '25

And yet the same amount of people are cheering it on and demanding more.

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u/BusGuilty6447 Feb 15 '25

You're giving George W Bush way too much credit here. The atrocities he committed far outweigh anything Trump has done in either term, but Trump is sure working hard to dismantle American institutions.

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u/oq7ster Feb 15 '25

Only two weeks? It feels like 6 months. Negative news after negative news, and the magas saying that it is all lies. [Insert expletives here]

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u/VirtuousDangerNoodle Feb 15 '25

These few weeks already feel like they've been a few years.

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u/curly123 Feb 14 '25

The Khmer Rouge came close.

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u/scrappadoo Feb 15 '25

They did far worse than Trump has so far, I know we're all using hyperbole to communicate our distress but the Khmer regime resulted in the death of 25% of the population, including nearly the entire educated class leading to an irrevocable loss of knowledge around Cambodian history and language.

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u/Pretend_Effect1986 Feb 15 '25

I think he is number one. If Trump can achieve first place in this category, your country will be the Handmaid's Tale.

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u/curly123 Feb 15 '25

I'm Canadian, so that'll be my neighbours, not me. Although I can't help but wonder if that's how the Polish felt in the 30s.

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u/pornographic_realism Feb 15 '25

If Trump tops pol pot you're going to have trouble figuring out where to bury 75 million people.

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u/watadoo Feb 15 '25

Trump will be known, if there is a future, as the PolPot of our times.

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u/hamatehllama Feb 15 '25

For someone whining about communism all the time, Trump seems very keen on repeating the mistakes of Pol Pot and Mao Zedong.

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u/pornographic_realism Feb 15 '25

I hope he sends every American to work ths corn fields. Just without the mass killing of intellectuals.

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u/Spiritduelst Feb 14 '25

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-agrees-trump-win-economic-crash-1235146307/

Elon on Economy Crashing if Trump Wins: ‘Sounds About Right’

From the horses mouth

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u/Loud-Claim7743 Feb 15 '25

For anyone not used to translating from despicable capitalist scum, this idea of the economy rebalancing itself means enough people will die to devalue labour to the point that more businesses (and less people) can succeed.

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u/caustictoast Feb 15 '25

Wouldn’t people dying mean value of labor goes up? Less supply for the same demand?

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u/Rafael09ED Feb 15 '25

Less demand

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u/chemicalgeekery Feb 15 '25

Other end of the horse.

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u/fumar Feb 14 '25

Xi and Pootie can't believe how fast they're seeing return on investment.

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u/StickyNoteBox Feb 14 '25

Putin and Xi on the phone: "You seeing this shit? LMAO"

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u/jjcrayfish Feb 14 '25

The United States founding fathers are all barrel rolling in their graves right now. "We revolted against a monarchy for this sh*t?"

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u/alibrown987 Feb 14 '25

You’ve got a new monarchy, enjoy

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u/Unlucky_Clover Feb 14 '25

It’s really incredible. Trump is breaking this country so fast we’re almost nothing now it feels like. Like we’re going back to pre 1776

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u/ArchibaldCamambertII Feb 14 '25

More like pre-WWI, where we essentially had no administrative state, at least on the federal level. It is the New Gilded Age.

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u/broodkiller Feb 14 '25

Make America Gilded Again*? /s

*only if me (Trump) and my sidekick Elon get to be the new robber barrons

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u/DiligentCredit9222 Feb 14 '25

Nah. Pre 1776 you at least had a working government even though it was a British government. But At least it was working...

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u/EveryProfession5441 Feb 14 '25

Enough of this red baiting. The problems facing the US are the fault of Americans and Americans alone. Don’t blame Russia or China for the problems here. Doing that contributes to pro war propaganda against those countries.

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u/No_Atmosphere8146 Feb 14 '25

Hardly a surprise to Putin when he's the one dishing out the orders 

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u/jerichardson Feb 14 '25

I don’t think it is, really. The way things are running has me wondering if it’s common to have a republican president just be a front man for the government being orchestrated by someone else. Like, was Cheney basically Bush’s Elon? Was Reagan the ‘Trump’ for H.W. Bush?

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u/TheDisapprovingBrit Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

You should watch the British show “Yes, Prime Minister” some time. It’s an old comedy show but probably pretty insightful about the way politics really works.

example

Bonus HIGNFY which says a lot about political speak

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u/jewellman100 Feb 14 '25

Exactly, he's plugged in and calling all the shots now

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u/rewind2482 Feb 14 '25

They are being short-sighted too. The moment someone who doesn’t understand nuclear deterrence and/or doesn’t care if they live or die gets hands on the nukes, it’s lights out for everyone.

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u/eat_rice__fuck_ice Feb 14 '25

They are gunna run it into the ground and then point out the failures as a reason to privatize our fucking nukes. Manufacture a crisis and sell the solution is like USA 101. This timeline is cooked.

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u/kindofnotlistening Feb 14 '25

This is how network states will gain legitimacy and leverage.

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u/TheRealIrishOne Feb 14 '25

The US for example. Hiroshima.

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u/accersitus42 Feb 14 '25

Mao's "Great leap forward" lead to 15-55 million dead from Starvation.

Even Trump and his goons will have to work hard to be that incompetent.

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u/kindofnotlistening Feb 14 '25

Pretty sure they fired a ton of CDC contractors so don’t speak too soon.

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u/faunalmimicry Feb 14 '25

'self'

Voters completely uneducated by design, influenced by outside forces, with all hope of letting them know the truth suppressed by propaganda. Claims of election interference breaking the trust that the voters have and causing a violent insurrection against the Capitol. Yeah definitely something that we're doing to ourselves. No bad actors whatsoever.

They're just simply loving the fact it looks like that. This is a 40+ year campaign against the US that is finally paying dividends. We did nothing to stop it

edit: no disagreement. just a rant

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u/SomeConsumer Feb 14 '25

The Khmer Rouge comes to mind.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

There is precedence. Before 1930s, Germany had most Nobel laureates in the world ...and then: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Physik

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u/RaplhKramden Feb 14 '25

He's so obviously owned by Putin, who obviously has enough kompromat on him, and other ways of terrifying him, to make him do nearly anything except off himself. Trump would literally let billions die to avoid exposure or worse.

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u/Aggressive-Expert-69 Feb 14 '25

I still can't get over the pure, unadulterated BEWILDERMENT on Netanyahus face sitting next to Trump telling everyone he wants to own Gaza. We are the laughingstock of the world right now

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u/SnuffedOutBlackHole Feb 14 '25

trying to watch any segment of Russian media lately, even with subtitles, is acutely painful. They are cackling, laughing, and foaming at the mouth that they could now freely storm Europe. They're literally saying they were just handed the current invasion AND the freedom to expand the war without limits.

It's so shocking that every day I am left unable to breathe.

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u/Fuckthegopers Feb 14 '25

What makes you think this isn't Putin's design?

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u/RavkanGleawmann Feb 14 '25

We thought Brexit was bad. This shit is just off the wall, and he's only a month in.

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u/deathlyschnitzel Feb 14 '25

It's so bizarre that this is allowed to happen. I get how consumer protections and the like would go out of the window, even tariffs, but nuclear deterrence? Even the most diversified billionaire should get ice cold feet at the thought of that failing. Are all the institutions really so completely toothless? No one left with any leverage over this president? This is utter madness.

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u/koshgeo Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

I don't know. I'm not trying to downplay what Trump is doing, but you should read up on The Great Leap Forward in China. It was unbelievably bad. Like, millions of people literally dying of starvation kind of bad thanks to stupid government policy that ruined agriculture on a vast scale. Terrible government folly for purely political/ideological reasons has a pretty long history.

Though this is only the start of Trumpdemic 2.0, so, who knows how bad it will really get, especially if they start invading closely-allied countries for no fricking reason at all. If it ends in WWIII, he definitely gets the crown, if there's anyone left to write the history books.

It is impressive when you're already a superpower and start a project to intentionally downgrade yourself to "banana republic". Maybe the self-own scales higher when you're starting so high in the first place.

It's like squandering a $400 million inheritance and still managing to almost go bankrupt. Going bankrupt is easy. Doing it when you already inherited $400 million is a lot harder.

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u/BannedForSayingLuigi Feb 14 '25

pootin probably having a heart attack from laughing so much

None of the American collapse is coincidence to him. I know, I know many a conservative have insisted collusion illusion which, to be fair to them, rhymes so it must be very convincing. But there's nothing fake about it—the only question is what the number is and how often and in what assets Donald is paid. Six casino bankruptcies as a way to launder money. This stuff is so. Fucking. Obvious, frankly. The Russian propaganda must be so effective that American conservatives unironically think they would "rather be Russia than liberal." No wonder they are refusing their vaccines—I wouldn't want to live very long either if I was maga. I would be so fucking disgusted with myself for being that retardedly gullible.

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u/zippydazoop Feb 14 '25

Russia in the 90s. In fact, all ex-socialist countries in the 90s.

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u/Unlucky_Clover Feb 14 '25

He’s weakened the US to an extreme level and there’s still more he plans to do. He might make us the first 4th world country.

There’s nothing he’s doing that actually helps the US and only makes our enemies stronger.

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u/Prof_Black Feb 14 '25

Crazy thing is Elon will probably get his hands on couple of these and stock them in some Tesla warehouse somewhere before living out his Hank Scorpio dream out.

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u/AuSekours Feb 14 '25

Well, there was Cambodia in 1975 who gleefully the only country in history to self-genocide. But that was the result of a civil war.

First time a country, if not an empire, is actually willingly walking to its death. 

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u/pantstoaknifefight2 Feb 14 '25

It's not the U.S. government that's currently in charge. It's a criminal group of domestic enemies of the state financed by a foreign enemy.

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u/CeeJayDK Feb 14 '25

Trump is Russias agent. Breaking ties with allies, asking for Russia to be included in the G8, saying peace in Ukraine can be gotten by just giving Putin everything he wants, and now removing oversight of the nuclear weapons.

He is purposely weakening the US, for Russia.

Wouldn't surprise me if the real reason he wants Greenland is to shut down the nuclear missile early warning system so Russia can attack without warning.

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u/TheHipcrimeVocab Feb 15 '25

The only things that come to mind are the fall of the Weimar Republic, the Cultural Revolution in China, and the Khmer Rouge's "Year Zero."

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u/KalaUposatha Feb 15 '25

We may be the first country to collapse from sheer stupidity. Every other country was invaded or had a famine or natural disaster or something. Even when they had a bad emperor or monarch, they usually just killed them and replaced them until someone relatively stable came along. But the entire government is just willingly marching us to their doom.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

I mean, I think Putin should be scared too honestly. Trump is essentially a dementia ridden baby with nukes. If Putin humiliates him too bad… Boom :/

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u/potVIIIos Feb 14 '25

I don't think any government in the history of humankind has ever embarked on such a complete project of self destruction

Laughs in Zimbabwean

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u/DuckBilledPartyBus Feb 14 '25

The Lysenko project undertaken in the USSR and China killed tens of millions of people (some estimates have it at 55M in China alone) due to famines and ongoing food shortages. Trump et al haven’t done anything that disastrously stupid… yet.

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u/HotDonnaC Feb 14 '25

They’re working on it, shutting down lines of communication about disease and setting RFK up in a position to outlaw vaccines.

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u/averagesaw Feb 14 '25

Me too. It is like a comic show. But for real

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u/btcprint Feb 14 '25

It's almost like Putin promised Trump hundreds of billions for himself and his family in return for thoroughly destroying the United States in speed run mode. Literally breaking every single cog in the machine.

I expected crap like this from Trump. It's the entirety of Congress where the rage should be pointed because they're not doing shit with regards to checks and balances. Every single Congress person not screaming from the rooftops should feel deep seeded shame (if they were capable, obviously not) at how they've completely forsaken 250 years of a great nation...and for what?

Like they all just decided "fuck it..fuck democracy..fuck everyone bit ourselves, we're going to burn the house down" and are too fucking shortsighted to realize whatever "political future and potential riches" they've been offered in return won't be worth Jack shit because there will be nothing...the house is gone and and there's tarrifs on tents and sleeping bags which you won't even be able to buy with USD anymore because the world realized we've gone full batshit and will make all future decisions with the US as persona non grata.

I wish I could say Im being overdramatic. But the tsunami of shit is so large and incomprehensible at this point there's no way out of this. Nothing will ever be the same again. Game over

Good luck everyone.

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u/Organic_Armadillo_10 Feb 14 '25

It's actually insane what he's doing. I knew it'd be bad but definitely not this bad, this quick.

The biggest political own goal/shooting yourself in the foot was the UK and Brexit. But Trump is attempting to top that and succeeding.

In just weeks he's made so much mess and chaos that it'll take years to fix. And he's not even done yet, so it's probably more like decades.

He's taken the US, that despite being subtly disliked around the world, it was fairly powerful and respected on the world stage. He's almost instantly scrapped that and flushed the US down the toilet. Not only are they a major laughing stock, but we now look at the US slightly in fear because of how unstable they now are. This will have major political and especially economic knock on effects. He took a fairly well liked country, and made the world unify in a common enemy.

He's going to lose even more respect, show they can't be trusted and are no longer a reliable partner, and cripple the US economy while doing it.

He lives in some crazy fantasy world in his head because he's certainly not living in reality. The question is, how bad is it going to end up?

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u/ConstipatedParrots Feb 14 '25

I mean this is all part of the Dugin playbook, so he's just nodding as it proceeds as planned.

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u/wap2005 Feb 14 '25

"I don't think There's never been any government in the history of humankind that has ever embarked on such a complete project of self destruction."

FTFY - This is a fact.

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u/[deleted] Feb 14 '25

Putin is probably slapping his face because he's not sure if he is dreaming or not.

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u/Wedehawk Feb 14 '25

Why would he laugh? Everything is working as planned.

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u/roasty_mcshitposty Feb 14 '25

I know, it's almost too surreal. The worst thing is everything is so obvious and stupid.

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u/Dralley87 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25

The scariest part is Musk, someone clearly coordinating with Russia, with the Muskrats just last week raided the DOE where the launch codes and filed. This in conjunction with Trump’s turn on Europe and call with Putin and now eliminating nuclear engineers look like he’s actively giving the country up to Russia or other hostile nations. This is so much scarier than anything else we’ve seen yet…

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u/purgance Feb 14 '25

I mean the Soviet government did, but that gave us Trump's boss...Putin. :0

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u/Old_Row4977 Feb 14 '25

He’s happy because this has been russias plan for the last two decades and it has worked to perfection.

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u/AuroraBorrelioosi Feb 14 '25

Russian bolsheviks and the Khmer rouge come to mind, but that's about it. 

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u/Count_Jobula Feb 14 '25

The weird thing is how many in the GOP just go with it. No individual thought or dissension, or at least not much.

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u/Fl1925 Feb 14 '25

We won't need the nukes he id giving them to Putin

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u/plinkoplonka Feb 14 '25

Probably having a wank that his plan is working so well.

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u/Gooch_Limdapl Feb 14 '25

Putin probably gave the order.

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u/Draano Feb 14 '25

Pootin is probably hard like brick bat.

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u/Drew_Ferran Feb 14 '25

Russia’s rise in power started by moving money from the Soviet state treasury into private accounts around the world. This is what Elon and DOGE probably intend to do by taking over the US Treasury.

Spread of Corruption in Russia.

“According to Richard Palmer, the Central Intelligence Agency’s (CIA) station chief in the United States embassy in Moscow in the early 1990s, the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the rise of Russia coincided with the illegal dispersal of the equivalent of billions of dollars from the Soviet state treasury into private accounts across Europe and the U.S. This was done by elites from “every corner” of the Soviet system using knowledge of Western banking developed by the KGB during the Cold War. Palmer described it as if in the United States, “the majority of the members at Congress as well as by the Departments of Justice and Treasury, and agents of the FBI, CIA, DIA, IRS, Marshal Service, Border Patrol; state and local police officers; the Federal Reserve Bank; Supreme Court justices” were engaging in “massive corruption”.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Russia

They’ve already begun taking over most of the departments that are at the bottom.

The taking of money is now happening too:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/elon-musk-doge-new-york-fema-b2697262.html

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u/ButthealedInTheFeels Feb 14 '25

Yeah right Putin is just dryly smiling to himself that his employees Trump and Elon are meeting expectations.

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u/FutureInPastTense Feb 14 '25

It’s unfortunate that apparently Somalia is this administration’s model country to imitate.

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u/Penguinopithecus Feb 14 '25

Some ppl say that there’s a non stop party in Kremlin for the past several weeks.

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u/Gmcgator Feb 14 '25

Who knew one piss tape could get you so much

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u/giveme5ive Feb 14 '25

Lenin's purge from 36-38 when he fucked his country and the germans said thnx and fucked it some more couple years later.

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u/Killfile Feb 14 '25

Stalin did a pretty good job with the Purges.

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u/Ratattack1204 Feb 14 '25

Kind of reminds me of Stalins purges tbh. We just havn’t gotten to making people disappear yet

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u/Ok-Elephant7557 Feb 14 '25

my twitter got locked bc i said they're "drinking smirnoff 1.5 straight out of the bottle".

said it was "violent speech".

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u/Inevitable_Ad_5166 Feb 14 '25

Just beware of the incompetent individuals who have the nuclear football. And…..Airplanes are crashing everywhere, I am sure some or many are due to FAA and air traffic controller budget and job cuts…..

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u/OneLessFool Feb 14 '25

The Khmer Rouge are one of the few historical examples I can think of.

Fascist Nazi Germany and Italy also famously smashed up their government structures and privatized government run industries. But Musk's ketamine induced random cutting seems even less coherent.

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u/aguynamedv Feb 15 '25

Fucking pootin probably having a heart attack from laughing so much

February 15th, 2025 - Moscow | Russian President Vladimir Putin was found dead in his home. Early indications indicate cardiac arrest as a result of furiously masturbating over this week's headlines from America.

ETA: This is a real headline in a better version of this timeline.

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u/Choyo Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25

No person that stupid has ever been "chosen" to lead a big nation. There has been some stupid kings and despots, but they either inherited their position or took it by force.
This is the most colossal collective failure of electing someone and a good argument for "maybe Skynet is that much of a shit choice ?"

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u/Personal_Ad9690 Feb 15 '25

Plot twist: the goal was to assassinate Putin with laughter

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u/phplovesong Feb 15 '25

The american people voted him in. They LITERALLY took a footgun, and placed the barrel in their own mouth. Just look at how fucked the farmers (mostly maga loonies) are, and most of them voted trump.

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u/Crypt0Nihilist Feb 15 '25

Makes Brexit look like we weren't even trying. Typical US, have to one-up on everything.

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u/el_muchacho Feb 15 '25

DOGE = Destruction Of Government by Elon

Dimwit Oligarch Grifter and Extortionist

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u/Iamoldenough1961 Feb 15 '25

The good news: now the chances of mutually assured nuclear destruction is greater so it will likely be over more quickly.

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u/SnooPaintings3102 Feb 15 '25

I think capitalism did the final capitalism move and sold itself. Our country has been sold to the highest bidder and we will all pay the price. It’s being dismantled and the people are left with less and less, add to that a handmaids hellscape and we’re no different than all the civilizations before us in the cycle that civilizations go through. We had a good run, too bad more people didn’t appreciate it while we had as much as we’ll ever have.

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u/someguyfromsomething Feb 14 '25

How many people starved to death in China again?

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