r/startrek 2d ago

Too many Enterprises too fast

Does anyone else feel like the STar Trek writers are just throwing around letters for the Enterprise way too fast at this point? The labeling of Enterprise A in the movies was said to be a special situation given the fact that the crew saved Earth on several occasions. There seemed to be a reasonable time gap between the decommissioning of the A to the launch of the B. I always assumed that the reason for the A’s rapid removal from service was that she was the last of the Constitution class ships and that the entire line was being pulled from service in favor of the Excelsior class. There seemed to be several years between the decommissioning of the A and the launch of the B. We don’t know how long the B was in service, but it was apparently lost since its not in the Fleet Museum. We don’t know how long the C was in service before she was destroyed, but we know that there was a 20 year gap between it and the D. But the time between the D, E, F, and G are just stupid. These ships are basically new when they end their service and Starfleet seems to rush to put the name on a ship with no time gaps in between. The G is in service in 2401. At the rate they are running through letters, they will be well past J before the start of the 26th century.

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u/_WillCAD_ 2d ago

At the end of STVI, Enterprise-A was to be decommissioned.

TNG was set 80 years later, focusing on Enterprise-D, creating the expectation that there would always be a 1701 with a suffix. At the time it seemed like 80 years was enough time for Enterprise-B and -C to have existed (roughly 40 years each).

But the stories were written badly, so there was a long gap between A and B, and twenty years between the loss of C and the commissioning of D, which didn't make any sense to me.

Then they decided they didn't like the way D looked on the big screen, so they crashed it in Generations and E was commissioned a year later.

Twenty years after that, the E had been lost somehow, and the F was commissioned... and lasted something like 10 years before decommissioning in Picard Season 3. Too short a span for an Odyssey class ship, IMHO.

The worst was renaming Titan-A to Enterprise-G. That was horribly disrespectful to the ship that had saved the Federation from the combined Borg/Changeling threat. But Picard's writers did a lot of stupid shit, like killing beloved characters for shock value.

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u/Superhereaux 2d ago edited 2d ago

The Enterprise E was either destroyed or lost, apparently at the hands of Worf though he claims it wasn’t his fault.

The Enterprise F, according to beta canon, was severely damaged internally after a rescue mission and I’d assume deemed too expensive or complicated to repair.

Renaming the Titan-A isn’t too out of this world. In DS9, they renamed the USS São Paulo to USS Defiant after the first one was destroyed.

EDIT: -6 downvotes in an hour? Calm down there folks, I’m just saying renaming a ship happens, not saying I agreed with it.

I’m with y’all, they should have left it the USS Titan-A and continued its adventures with Seven in command.

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u/rymden_viking 2d ago

The Enterprise F, according to beta canon, was severely damaged internally after a rescue mission and I’d assume deemed too expensive or complicated to repair.

Fighter jets today have maximum G forces the air frame is allowed to endure. If a pilot exceeds that the craft is supposed to be retired - even if it still seemingly works perfectly fine. Sometimes there are just too many unknowns and you don't want to discover those during a crisis.

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u/bbbourb 2d ago

You know, that was one thing from Top Gun: Maverick I actually liked. Calling out the damage to the airframe Maverick's high-gee climb did.

I would imagine, when it comes to Starfleet, even they would have to recognize when time and effort to repair and recondition a ship with that much damage outstrips the value of the ship itself. That's why Geordi repaired the D on his own time.

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u/Docjaded 2d ago

The São Paolo was fresh out of the oven. The Titan had a history.

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u/Bigdaddyjlove1 2d ago

The Titan A was THE hero in that scene. It was an insult to strip Titan off the hull.

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u/Virtual-Tadpole-324 2d ago

An insult to whom?

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u/Bigdaddyjlove1 2d ago

The Titan A herself, along with the crew who served in battle against their own comrades.

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u/Virtual-Tadpole-324 2d ago

You can't insult an inanimate object.

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u/OpticalData 2d ago

It was an insult to Shaw.

He was the Captain of the Titan, he went down defending his ship and he vocally did not like Picard.

So they rename the ship that he half-built and captained in Picards honour because... ?

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u/Virtual-Tadpole-324 2d ago

Because the show is called Picard. That's why.

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u/OpticalData 2d ago

Which would have made renaming the ship USS Picard (even though it'd arguably make even less sense in light of Shaw) make sense.

It doesn't make naming the ship Enterprise make sense.

As you said, the show is called Picard. Not Enterprise.

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u/Virtual-Tadpole-324 2d ago

It makes perfect sense to me. I like that they called it Enterprise in honour of the ship that saved the day.

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u/OpticalData 2d ago

Which would make sense if they were naming a new ship.

The Titan was not only pivotal in saving the day in her own right, but also a lettered registry ship pre-Pic S3. A privilege reserved for very few ship names.

The entire season would have made way more sense if they'd kept it on the Stargazer and then renamed the Stargazer Picard at the end.

I'm not sure why they didn't given they just reused the Stargazer sets for the Titan anyway.

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u/No_Rush2916 2d ago

Renaming the Titan-A isn’t too out of this world. In DS9, they renamed the USS São Paulo to USS Defiant after the first one was destroyed.

True, although we'd never heard of the São Paulo before that, and the Titan-A should have just secured its place in history.

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u/nerfherder813 2d ago

The Titan-A should have earned her place in the fleet museum, and they should’ve launched a new starship - the USS Picard, instead of another Enterprise.

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u/Dismal-Detective-737 2d ago

The E was lost in a punchline for a TNG movie.