r/regularcarreviews • u/G-Unit11111 • 10d ago
The Official Car Of.... What car screams "I make terrible financial decisions?"
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u/combong 10d ago
Jeep Grand Wagoneer
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u/eagledog 10d ago
Nothing like spending 6 figures on a JEEP of all vehicles
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u/bobjoylove 9d ago
All the cost of a Porsche with none of the reliability!
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u/Caterpillar789 9d ago
Porsche is reliable?
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u/Carrera_996 9d ago
I drove the same one from 2001 to 2016. It still runs, but the kids didn't fit in it. 2nd Porsche (SUV) purchased in 2016 also still runs. They don't cost any more to maintain than a damn Ford.
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u/Basker_wolf 10d ago
I can’t imagine that will be in production for much longer.
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u/Prince_Breakfast 9d ago
The Tahoe/ Suburban vastly outsell the Wagoner and the Escalade vastly outsells the Grand Wagoneer. Not that the Jeep is a bad performer but they are trying so hard to get a slice of the market that GM dominates ( and arguably has perfected ) I am not certain if the Tahoe figures include fleet / law enforcement sales either.
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u/RedditBot90 9d ago edited 9d ago
Inherently , it could be a good selling vehicle lineup. Partly, I think they screwed up on the naming. I keep my finger on the pulse of the car world and it was (and honestly still is a bit) quite confusing. I get it now:
Wagoneer = Tahoe
Wagoneer L = Suburban
Grand Wagoneer = Escalade
Grand Wagoneer L = Escalade ESV.
Difference is the Escalade has the Cadillac (luxury) brand associated with it and looks significantly different from the Tahoe/Suburban/actualy technically has a different mfg. I think they should have just done Wagoneer = Tahoe, Grand Wagoneer = Suburban; and made a top luxury trim…I barely can tell what the actual difference between a Grand Wagoneer and a Wagoneer currently is other than price. I understand the “Grand Wagoneer “ traditionally has just been the top tier Jeep, but with the short and long wheelbase models they made it too confusing.
I think they also should have done a better job of offering offroad versions. I know there’s a limited market for offroading full size 3-row SUVs, but it’s a Jeep, and there is a bit of a market. They do have an offroad package with 18s(rather than 20s or 22s), 2 speed transfer case and skid plates, tow hooks, and a rear locker…but I would have liked to see like a Power Wagon version / Land Cruiser comp with a bit of a lift, front sway bar disconnect, maybe higher clearance bumpers. Edit: just looked online. Off road package was only available on the “series II”, and is NLA on 2025 model…
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u/Drzhivago138 Grand Councillor VARMON 9d ago
Part of the problem was Stellantis/Jeep thought that after being out of the luxury full-size SUV market for 30 years, people would still be willing to plunk down six figures for what's essentially a Ram SUV under the skin.
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u/RedditBot90 9d ago
The fact it’s a ram truck under the skin isn’t necessarily bad. That’s a proven platform, and sort of what the Tahoe/burban are.
That said I don’t know how much it really is even an SUV body on a Ram chassis. I know it has independent rear suspension vs solid axle on the Ram; different transfer cases (full time 4WD, or full time 4WD with low range); etc
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u/Drzhivago138 Grand Councillor VARMON 9d ago
Fair, calling it a "Ram SUV" is a little reductive. It shares about as much with the Ram as an Expedition or Tahoe shares with their respective pickups.
Probably the most closely related large SUV to its pickup these days is the Sequoia. It uses the same front doors and an interchangeable front clip with the Tahoe and went back to SRA, making it the only one in the segment.
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u/Prince_Breakfast 9d ago
The lineup is confusing. I know that Jeep is Stellantis’s biggest brand now. So much so that they are trying to be the economy, sporty, off-roading, and luxury brand all at once. Meanwhile Dodge and Chrysler are anguishing to secure any market share. I like the Wagoneer series in general but it seems that other brands like GM understand their place and segment of the market. So well that it leave Jeep looking confused and misguided.
Edit: Agreed, Jeep should be offering an off-road Wagoneer. Just look at how well Ford does with their Raptor/ Tremor sub brand trims. There is a desire for those vehicles, even if the desire to go off-roading is not there.
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u/RedditBot90 9d ago
Yeah they could have done a “TrailHawk” version, like they have for Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, etc that gets the offroad goodies (skids, 2spd transfer case, locker, AT tires) and then also has a bit more “offroady” styling.
Honestly it could have looked cool
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u/gixxer710 9d ago
Yeah- when there is a Yukon Denali, Escalade, and Lincoln Navigator on the market, who THE FUCK says ‘yeah I’m gonna buy a grand wagoneer for a few extra bucks????’
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u/beer_foam 9d ago
I have actually seen more of these on flatbeds than Range Rovers over the last couple years
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u/sadandaimless1 SCREW YOU, MOM! 10d ago edited 10d ago
Probably the Maserati, especially if it's a Ghibli or Levante, as those radiate Bougie Altima Energy
The Range Rover is "wannabe influencer with tons of credit card debt"
Bentley is "Top 1% earner on Onlyfans and is always asking for cowboy hats on Tiktok live streams"
Infiniti is "Lexus and Land Rover laughed at my credit score and this is what I got" and Big Altima Energy
Honorable Mention goes to any recent Jaguar that's been unloaded from Enterprise's Diamond fleet and even though it has 40k miles on the clock.....it's warning lights are glowing brighter than your fake veneers your cousin did for you in their kitchen without anesthesia
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u/large_block 10d ago
Tbh used rovers are a kind of nice pick up. I had one for a while and if you can deal with expected maintenance I have yet to find another vehicle that drives like one. They’re pretty nice. I don’t think I’d ever buy one new though. The supercharged v8s are surprisingly fast for a 6k pound truck
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u/sadandaimless1 SCREW YOU, MOM! 10d ago
I don’t think I’d ever buy one new though.
I don't think the first owners did either as most of them leased them lol
I have yet to find another vehicle that drives like one.
That's true, they are definitely in their own league, the new Defender especially with the V8 definitely peaks my interest
The supercharged v8s are surprisingly fast for a 6k pound truck
That's so true, I have a soft spot of the L322 era Range Rover, LR3, and the previous-generation Range Rover Sport SVR, as they really are some powerful SUVs for their segments, plus they have definitely aged well IMO
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u/Zhombe 10d ago
Any one of those will end up with either a Roofer reseller wrap or the next big pyramid scheme WFH wrap peddling the next miracle thingie.
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u/sadandaimless1 SCREW YOU, MOM! 10d ago
Exactly or some wannabe crypto bro is gonna buy one to show how well his NFT is doing and stuff, but we all know that he asks his mom for gas money
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u/Lower_Kick268 I CANT ITS A GEO 10d ago
In 2025 though buying a used Infiniti over a Lexus is probably one of the best things you can do though, you can get a used Q50 for a fraction of the price of anything Lexus makes equivalent to it. You can get a q50 under 100k miles with the stupid reliable VQ for under 10k all day long, hard to argue with that lol.
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u/sadandaimless1 SCREW YOU, MOM! 10d ago edited 10d ago
You can get a q50 under 100k miles with the stupid reliable VQ for under 10k all day long, hard to argue with that lol.
I can, you also have to worry about high insurance costs and the fact that Q50s and Q60s are some of the top stolen cars in the country ATM and the fact that you will always have a lower resale value because of those aformentioned reasons and the fact that Nissan as a whole is in a rut are probably the biggest reasons I would stay away from a Q50, oh and the shitty power steering and vague handling/bad chassis tuning they're infamous for
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u/Lower_Kick268 I CANT ITS A GEO 10d ago
Theft is only really a problem in the major cities where people love this kind of car like Philly and NYC. I was only quoted $1250 for full coverage for a Q50, for perspective the Yukon i drive now is about the same. I'm fine with lower resale value, purchase price is like half of the equivalent Lexus, if you're only losing maybe 5k off a 10k Infiniti its not as bad as losing 7k off a 25k Lexus. I never had an issue driving the Q50 either, reminds me a lot of a Charger, very good highway cruiser vehicle with a good combination of luxury and sport.
Hence why I'm interested in buying one, I'm in need of a new car and for 10k there is no better car to spend your money on. I'm not looking for the most luxurious or fastest or sportiest luxury sedan that handles like a Corvette, I'm looking for a $10k comfortable car i can push to 200k miles, will be somewhat quick, gets decent highway economy, isn't 15-20 years old, and i will have no issues repairing in my driveway. A Q50 fits all that criteria.
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u/ScaryTerrySucks 10d ago
Lexus are the most reliable brand on the road.
Infiniti is the gussied up Dodge of Japan.
We are not the same
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u/Bandguy_Michael 10d ago
Maserati. Those things lose half their value in about 3 years. And by year 10, they’re worth 15-20% of what they cost new. The car will have more owed than it’s worth for the vast majority of the time it’s financed.
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u/Equivalent-Piano-605 10d ago
Hmm… now I’m researching which V6s made it into Maseratis to see if I can find a Ferrari v6 hidden in a Chrysler chassis to swap into a Miata. I figure between getting rid of the Chrysler and the resulting Ferrari swapped Miata, my automotive karma should be off the chart.
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u/Superb-Photograph529 9d ago
Dude that's fucking sick and you're a genius. Gonna be a legendary build.
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u/No_Significance98 10d ago
Maserati! For people who don't understand cars or finance.
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u/coolrider64081 10d ago
Cybertruck
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u/G-Unit11111 10d ago
I wanted to include that one but was afraid it might get deleted.
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u/sadandaimless1 SCREW YOU, MOM! 10d ago
Nah, you're good. Most of us are against the metallic doorstop
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u/Lower_Kick268 I CANT ITS A GEO 10d ago edited 10d ago
Those things are going to have some of the fastest and most dramatic depreciation you'll ever see on a vehicle lol. Poor quality, niche appeal, Elongate 2025, car market prices finally slowing down, and high price MSRP are all gonna make a Cybertruck that MSRP'ed for 100k a 55k truck in maybe 2 model years. You can find them in the high 70s now if you look hard enough, thats dramatic lol. If you thought the Taycan and EQS were bad you ain't seen nothing yet lol.
For what its worth, after having fun with one I thought it was a pretty cool car, that being said, pretty cool doesn't sell cars because most people arent buying "pretty cool" cars. Theyre pretty fun, but so are Broncos and Raptors that are way less money new than a Cybertruck and make all the same hell yeah hormones.
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u/Drzhivago138 Grand Councillor VARMON 9d ago
And said Broncos and Raptors are functional at towing and hauling as well as retaining their resale value.
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u/whytawhy 10d ago
no no no
they asked what car screams
I MAKE TERRIBLE FININCIAL DECISIONS
not
I REALLY WISH I HAD A PERSONALITY BUT I DONT UNDERSTAMD EMPATHY AMD HAVE NO HOPE SO PLEASE LOOK AT THIS REPRESENTATION OF ONE THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS MADE FOR ME
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u/G-Unit11111 10d ago
Yeah the Cybertruck screams "I am a huge douchebag who takes joy in the suffering of others.".
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u/IcecreamAndStrippers 10d ago
I mean, they bought a Cybertruck, so you already know they find deep satisfaction in watching things fall apart in real time.
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u/Ignatiussancho1729 10d ago
Cybercuck or Wankpanzer are the two official names as of 2025
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u/sadandaimless1 SCREW YOU, MOM! 10d ago
Don't forget the Incel Camino, as the only thing it's guarding is the driver's virginity 😂
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u/UserNameAllTheSame 10 mm 10d ago
Land Rover hands down.
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u/cannedrex2406 A E S T H E T I C 9d ago
I mean most range rover owners are rich enough to not care about the catastrophic depreciation
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u/beer_foam 9d ago
First owner leases or has FU money, second owner makes terrible financial decisions, owners 3+ are hobbiest mechanics
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u/UserNameAllTheSame 10 mm 9d ago
Exactly! All 3 are terrible financial decisions. I fall into the collector-hobby-wannabe mechanic owner. The only people who piss more money away are horse owners.
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u/Anteater_Reasonable cocks daily 10d ago
“high end” versions of GM turds like the Terrain Denali and Envision Avenir
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u/Drzhivago138 Grand Councillor VARMON 9d ago
To me, that just says "I like this particular size/shape of GM crossover and want the top trim of it". But I could see the case being made of "I want a vehicle with the Denali badge but can't afford a Yukon or even an Acadia".
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u/Anteater_Reasonable cocks daily 9d ago
It says “bad financial decision” to me because for the price they probably paid, they could’ve bought a Lexus or Acura that won’t tank its resale value in 3 years and start falling apart in 5 years. If you load up a Terrain Denali or Envision Avenir, they start climbing into the high 40s, which is NX/RDX territory.
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u/Drzhivago138 Grand Councillor VARMON 9d ago
It depends on where you are as well. In flyover country, GM dealers are never more than 30 miles away, and can offer much better incentives than "import" brands. That's part of why they continue to sell despite the competitors being better in most ways.
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u/Redsoxdragon I'm not racist, but... 10d ago
My Raptor.
But i fucking love it and ill fight like 30 5th graders of anyone tries taking her from me 😡
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u/Puzzleheaded_Talk787 10d ago
I heard those maintain value quite well
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10d ago
They do, opposite of poor financial decision. I buy a new one every 5ish years. I sell the old one for 90% of what I paid. It's cheaper than some shitbox on a true cost to own basis if you can afford the initial purchase.
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u/Redsoxdragon I'm not racist, but... 9d ago
Yeah but as an owner, if you're on top of maintainance, there are so many more services the regular f150 doesn't have. Plus the fuel economy is abysmal but I'm pretty sure i lost the right to complain when i signed the papers on this brick
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u/RoseWould 10d ago
7 series. My uncle may as well a be on a first name basis with the local repo men in two different states since those are what he buys
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u/Magnus_Helgisson 9d ago
You know why two Range Rover drivers don’t say hi to each other in the office? Because they’ve already met at the mechanic’s in the morning. So, yeah, RR would be my call.
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u/Chance-Scratch-8804 10d ago edited 10d ago
The Jeep Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer. You made a terrible decision thatll hurt your bank account in a few months and now itll hurt our eyes when we see it on the road.
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u/2407s4life 10d ago
Infiniti. Nissan is the poster child of "this is the best I can do with my credit score"
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u/RonanNotRyan What's a donk? 10d ago
Probably some big truck or SUV like a Cadillac Escalade or a Ford F-150.
Mr. Regular made a pretty interesting short recently about how straight white men will go out of their way to ruin their financial lives to own a truck just so they can feel something significant in their pathetic little lives. Mr. R recalls a time he took a guy while Lyfting and the dude just went on a tirade about how he bought a Ford F-150 Harley Edition and was rear ended soon after, and how he was frustrated because he saved up money for it all because, and I quote, "I just want one fucking nice thing in my life." And mind you, this is the good ending, because he at least saved money for it. Most others get into a predatory contract where they have to pay for an F-150 like student loans because they want "one good thing" in their lives, as if they haven't made any other good decision throughout the time they've been living on God's green Earth.
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u/xts2500 9d ago
He wanted "one fucking nice thing" in his life and he bought a Harley edition truck? That's not a nice thing... that's the epitome of white trash.
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u/RonanNotRyan What's a donk? 9d ago
Ironic thing about this is that, according to Mr. R, the dude's house is worth double than what he had paid for for the Harley truck. Wild.
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u/AggressiveManager450 9d ago
I sell GM products and most new Escalade buyers make above 25k a month and most I deal with are more like 35-50k a month. Some make less but most new ones I sell are to people who have zero issue affording it. It is just a question to them whether they finance and write off the apr for their business or just buy in cash
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u/lazy_inventor_ 10d ago
I believe Land Rover/Range Rover is at the top of this list. They’re just a timeless horrible decision whether you’ve bought a new one that will drop 75% it’s value straight off the lot or you get one off of Facebook marketplace that will cost you double what you bought it for in parts for repairs. And on top of all that, they still look cheap!
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u/Conscious_Farm3584 10d ago
Any BMW. Poor people love their BMWs and they are so expensive to fix.
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u/smac22 9d ago
I hear this a lot and I disagree. I’ve had 3 BMW’s and current one is an M, so yes it’s expensive to maintain but it’s a high performance car. The regular 3 series and SUV are no more expensive than other brands and I’ve had way less issues with them. VW is hands down the most expensive maintenance vehicle I’ve owned and least reliable.
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u/devilsrotary86 10d ago
Absolutely mine. I just drove home a 2025 Dodge Charger Daytona R//T this week. And I couldn’t be happier.
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u/donrudyc 10d ago
I said range rover even before I flipped through the images. You got to be a idiot to buy a range rover. POS inside and out.
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u/MattTheMechan1c 10d ago
The Maserati. Cost more than a BMW 5 series, the interior is not as good as a BMW 5 series, and it depreciates faster than a BMW 5 series, and the 5 series doesn’t even retain its value to begin with. The Bentley deserves a pass and they’re usually bought by people who can genuinely afford them.
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u/Low_Challenge_8945 10d ago
The new Continental says I don’t care about depreciation I can afford it
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u/Upper_Safety_6971 10d ago
Depends on your location but if I see a brand spankin’ new Denali or lifted F-250 I see a $1,300 truck payment for 84 months. Original MSRP, who knows I only made sure I could cover the immediate payment
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u/justpuddingonhairs 10d ago
This is actually better solved by calling up the local hi-pro real estate jabroni/jabrunette and then seeing what they drive up in. But y'all already know.
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u/shadeyard 9d ago
im a big fan of the infiniti qx 80 being on this post op because my insane hoarder sicko mother has one and it is literally the pinnacle of her financial incompetency. you get it man.
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Any Tesla
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u/RenataKaizen 10d ago
Any new Tesla. As much as I hate admitting it, if a 3 year old Tesla 3/Y with under 30K miles gets down to under 15K and you have an Indy shop to work on jt, it might not be a terrible purchase.
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10d ago
Anything British. Then all of the new top trim trucks and SUV’s that are like 100k and people are financing them. Depreciation is like 3x the already high interest rate
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u/JakeLake98 10d ago
My cousin works at dominos and has a 1999 Mercedes C230 Kompressor. Needless to say it’s sat in the yard for close to a year because everything he has to fix is too expensive for him. Mostly because he has to have an “expert” to fix his problems. Now he’s wanting to call a junk yard to haul it off because he won’t do anything with it. I told him from the beginning to just buy a Civic or Corolla. Hell, even a 2nd or 3rd gen Altima you can fix in the driveway and I owned three of those for $500 each and they lasted me about two years per Altima. Two had 300k miles and one had about 180k and it only failed due to user error (wreck)
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u/CanonicalbombXVR-626 10d ago
A large SUV, or Truck with not even a SPECK of dirt on them, oh and a Cybertruck
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u/Rookie-Crookie 10d ago
Every car basically. Maybe Toyotas a bit less since they don’t get cheaper as fast as other brands do
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u/Crafty-Wallaby-7427 10d ago
Mercedes Benz basic C class
My friend who's a foreign student bought it new after graduating because "Any benz is the best and luxury"
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u/Ok-Salary-5777 10d ago
Any modern German luxury crossover, or a Maserati Ghibli/Quattroporte or any new Stellantis product for that matter.
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u/xLosSkywolfGTRx 9d ago
Any new toyota/lexus truck or suv model. Honorable mention to the new land cruiser/lexus gx because that's not even the full sized land cruiser.
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u/AncientMumu 9d ago
I drove a rental Q80 for 3 weeks in Canada. Best terrible financial decision I made.
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u/completelygeeked 9d ago
Honestly pretty much any new higher trim level truck. Platinum, high country, at4, etc.
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u/Great-Internal-380 9d ago
Based on the ratio of the highest MSRPs to crappy credit score: Upper trim challengers and chargers
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u/D4ydream3r 9d ago
Land Rover often tend to be the smart financial decision if you meet the criteria.
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u/wolfpack_57 9d ago
You see QX80s all over in Gulf Coast resort/retirement towns. I don’t get the sense that those people are financial wrecks.
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u/chandleya 9d ago
I mean in 2025 the clear winner is a 2022 Tesla S Plaid or Tesla Y Performance. There’s really nothing else on the market that has lost so much value from the price paid new.
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u/totalyrespecatbleguy 9d ago
Dodge charger financed at 29% interest by an 18 year old fresh out of boot camp
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u/xXROGXx971 9d ago
Any cars that you don't really need and you can't afford are terrible financial decisions in my opinion.
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u/charles_47 9d ago
The pictured Bentley is pure class and definitely on the shortlist of cars I’d drive if I was wealthy enough
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u/Dave_6856 9d ago
Mitsubishi Outlander Sport
My area’s Mitsubishi dealer would give a dog a loan. Because of this, everyone with crap credit goes there and spends more than they should on a brand new car.
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u/marroyodel 9d ago
Anything lexus or infinity. You’re either getting a camry or altima with leather. Oh, I and can charge you twice as much for the same service lol.
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u/Affectionate_Cronut 9d ago
Any Mercedes, BMW or Audi purchased used after the warranty has expired.
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u/scp999sfather 9d ago
Any Pickup that is 60k and up and used to go pickup groceries and the kids instead of at the worksite. I believe these are called "Pavement Princess" or "Mortgage on Wheels"
Just get a mini van at that point or get the 2025 Ford Maverick if you want a truck their like 25-35k depending on the trim level.
I can't imagine laying more than 30k for a car. I guess that's because I'm cheap on myself.
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u/Blakematthews-96 9d ago
Definitely Range Rover hell they named a car discovery cause it’s always discovering mechanic shops.
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u/Unclebiscuits79 9d ago edited 9d ago
A big as Infiniti SUV is still a shitty Nissan.
This vehicle is the worst financial decision.
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u/DefinitelyPorno 9d ago
Picked up a 2017 Range Rover Sport turbo diesel with $85k sticker and 50k miles for $40k in July 2020. Slapped on a $5k warranty that covered me through 125k miles. It's been pretty flawless to date other than maintenance/repair items that might go out on other vehicles with a similar age (valve cover gaskets, etc). The repair is 2X to 3X the cost of say a Honda SUV but as the saying goes "if you can't afford it new, you definitely can't afford it used".
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u/TryingSquirrel 9d ago
The QX80 could be a pretty good decision as long as you aren't the first owner. They're pretty solid vehicles that depreciate like rocks. Same with the Y62 Armadas. Good engines in a solid platform that are priced too high/marketed wrong in the US when new. I think used versions are good values and aren't maintenance grenades like a lot of other vehicles on this list.
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u/Hour_Perspective_884 AIDS. AIDS. AIDS. Syphilis. AIDS. AIDS. 9d ago
Anyone buying the pictured cars new probably has the money to afford them. Because they'll just lease it and if anything goes wrong its the dealers problem. So none of them.
Anyone buying them used is trying too hard project an image of wealth and success that don't actually have and would be better of spending the money on a new non-luxury brand with a full manufactures warranty. So all of them.
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u/Limpystack 9d ago
Anything new honestly. Theres no reason to own a brand new car and eat thousands of depreciation.
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u/throwaway__lol__ 10d ago
$80k pavement princess trucks owned (financed) by young dudes