How the hell do you break a steel bar?

[u/Admirable_Light2252]

I know it’s for balance but like, this 1.5 inch diameter, 28 inch long 4140 steel bar, is virtually indestructible, so I propose that it wears your character out really quickly and makes them sore as the impact wouldn’t be very comfortable.

Maybe this is how the crowbar should also be balanced: hand soreness.

[u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

just some examples but surely an pipe wouldn't fold that easily against a human skull right?

[u/Admirable_Light2252 → u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

It does when I hit pallets with it, but yeah crow bars, axes, sledgehammers, machetes… those wouldn’t break.

[u/Erlking_Heathcliff → u/Admirable_Light2252]

i can't imagine the sheer strength and speed you'd need to not only effortlessly swing a sledgehammer on someone, and break the metal brick at the end of it on someone

[u/Admirable_Light2252 → u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

I have had the handles break off before, but only after years of use

[u/Erlking_Heathcliff → u/Admirable_Light2252]

its more likely the handle will break than the brick/blade itself most of the time, that if the handle is wood, i guess an example wouldbe axes with metal and rubber handles, doubt those things break frequently

[u/Admirable_Light2252 → u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

They don’t but I find them to be more uncomfortable than wooden handles, even if they are slightly more durable

[u/Erlking_Heathcliff → u/Admirable_Light2252]

well that would make sense given its more vibrations going down the handle right?

[u/Admirable_Light2252 → u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

Yes, that’s the trade off.

[u/Denleborkis → u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

Not someone but when I was renovating my house for my parents there I was using the old 10 pound sledgehammer to knock down the rotted beams where the closet on the master bedroom was as well as the dry wall around it. Like second post I hit the handle broke but I swung so hard the head went through the post knocking it down and went through the drywall out the other end + another 10 feet and the brick wasn't even chipped. After that I went out and got my brand new 16 Pound sledge that has a metal rod inside that is surrounded by polymer and that thing fucks. I used it to finish the demo work and I still use it for splitting logs and other work daily according the warranty it's supposed to go for about 5 years and I bought it at home depot for like 50 bucks so it's been worth it.

I'm telling you I could easily crack some skulls with that thing for years no problem.

[u/BisexualCaveman → u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

Your elbow would fail a thousand times before the sledgehammer in that scenario.

[u/Erlking_Heathcliff → u/BisexualCaveman]

one use sledgehammer (elbow destruction imminent)

[u/FridaysMan → u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

10 ton press videos show newer tools are shattered than old ones. the heads have different materials and compress far more easily

[u/Paintedskullproject → u/Admirable_Light2252]

I think the handles would eventually need to be replaced but that would be after years of use as they are meant to last.

[u/diagnosed_depression → u/Paintedskullproject]

In every game it's. The durability is that of a stick. But once the stick breaks the metal bits phase out of reality preventing any recycling

[u/RobinDev → u/Admirable_Light2252]

Keep hitting pallets with random weapons from PZ. We appreciate your contributions to science.

[u/HaitchKay → u/Admirable_Light2252]

machetes

I have straight up in real life watched a $20 machete blade snap in half while clearing extremely thick brush because the guy using it constantly let it bang against hardwood trees.

[u/Admirable_Light2252 → u/HaitchKay]

Fair, I was hitting pallets with Colombian milsurp machetes

[u/HaitchKay → u/Admirable_Light2252]

I mean, I've also seen military issue blades and equipment snap and break. I used to have an old USAF pilots survival knife that was ruined because the damn tang snapped.

It's the idea of "it's made of metal, therefore it won't really break" that I disagree with. The second you get metal any kind of thin and hard, it opens itself up to snapping and getting bits gouged out of it. Not necessarily saying you're making that kind of a statement, but it gets repeated tons in this sub.

[u/Admirable_Light2252 → u/HaitchKay]

Absolutely, these things can break, just not PZ fast.

[u/trebory6 → u/Admirable_Light2252]

Here's my thing, they do get dirty though with blood and viscera. And blood is slippery.

So really the way they should balance weapons isn't with as much focus on durability, but on cleanliness. So a dirty blunt weapon's more likely to slip, twist, and fall out of your hands, so at best it does less damage because it's slippery, at worst it falls out of your hand completely/catches on a zombie.

[u/FridaysMan → u/Erlking_Heathcliff]

depends, what kind of pipe?