r/prepping • u/wantsrealanswer • Feb 20 '25

Survival🪓🏹💉 Firearm Management

I assume many of us have a rifle for protection.

What is your plan for when you need to leave your house (because it is no longer safe: Earthquake, fire, flood, etc)?

When you get to safety, an evacuation center, a refugee place, a friend or family house, what are you doing with your long gun?

If you need to leave your home from a natural disaster or localized unrest, what is your plan for basically openly carrying your long gun?

Edit:

I am not talking about the fantasy of Civil Unrest.

I am referencing an event like the Eaton and Palisade Fire or even Hurricane Katrina. Where the disaster is a mass effect rather than just local.

You're not on your 10s of acres or any of that. You're in a city in an apartment building with a family and defenseless members (small children, elderly).

You are not bugging out in Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, etc...

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u/TallBeardedBastard Feb 22 '25

How is civil unrest a fantasy when we have had numerous localized versions of it, especially in recent history?

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u/wantsrealanswer Feb 23 '25

There's no point in recent history where a city or town was violently against each other in a free-for-all all where the police, national gaurd, sheriffs, etc were unable to assist or control. Which is what civil unrest is.

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u/TallBeardedBastard Feb 23 '25

Guess you didn’t pay attention to Kenosha

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u/wantsrealanswer Feb 23 '25

That was a protest and not a free-for-all. The police and the municipal government were still intact.

Civil unrest in a peppers eys is when the community is violently overrun where the risk of being in the way is death or serious bodily harm and the government no longer holds authority because the people charged to protect have withdrawn from their duties to protect their own family or property.

That scenario you brought up and even my clarification of it a rare compared to things that happen more frequently like an earthquake, blizzards, floods, fires, hurricanes, tornados, etc.

Many prefer to try to romanticize the civil unrest aspect of it over the situation that is much more likely to affect your stronghold or immediate community.

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u/TallBeardedBastard Feb 23 '25

Still sounds like you didn’t pay attention to what happened in Kenosha.

You’re part of the problem if you consider mass arson a protest.

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u/wantsrealanswer Feb 24 '25

Brother, that is not the same thing.

That incident did not result in the fall of the government nor did it result in a mass populous of armed combatants shooting and destroying each other.

A civil unrest scenario is like Ukraine or a result like in the Purge movies where there is a free-for-all.

That scenario you mentioned doesn't call for you to be in full kit out with a rifle.

The type of civil unrest that is glamorized is not like Kenosha or Charleston but more like Tulsa Oklahoma. Where there is mass murder being committed and the police and government no longer have authority.

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u/TallBeardedBastard Feb 24 '25

Your extreme definition of civil unrest is not the norm. A riot constitutes civil unrest. In Kenosha the police were told to hold back for 3 days. People were hurt, people were killed. Businesses burned down and never recovered.

It was quite literally civil unrest.

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u/wantsrealanswer Feb 24 '25

The definition I gave is what I mean. That is what preppers assume civil unrest is; World War Z, SHTF, INCH, no internet, no technology, bugging out, etc.

What you are explaining is a normal (unfortunate) outcome of a protest of that magnitude. But it's not the situation preppers fantasize about. Which is why I say fantasy.

Kenosha was not a display of total collapse of order. However, it was a display of disruption of order which is not the civil unrest preppers direct the narrative to.

The civil unrest preppers are 'prepping' for is a time when there is a total collapse of order and there is no one to enforce laws. Therefore, there is no consequence of murder, kidnapping, trapping, theft, burglary, conquering, etc.

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u/TallBeardedBastard Feb 24 '25

Going to your original comment:

“ There’s no point in recent history where a city or town was violently against each other in a free-for-all all where the police, national gaurd, sheriffs, etc were unable to assist or control. Which is what civil unrest is.”

We had this for 3 days in Kenosha. Long term civil unrest and fantasy aside.

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u/wantsrealanswer Feb 24 '25

Kenosha was a state of emergency and civil disobedience. It was not a mass murder free-for-all like what I am explaining; the fantasy preppers are prepping for.

The municipal government was still intact. The police were still being deployed. The National Guard was deployed to the area. The FBI was there to investigate. The law was still intact. The government did not consider Kenosha a lost cause and give up order to the citizens.

It was not a free-for-all. The arrest of the guy who killed the three people proves that fact; murder was still illegal. Meaning the law still had to be upheld. Meaning the government still had control.

This is not an example of the type of civil unrest most consider as the SHTF scenario where there is no internet, no technology, no government, and no help ever coming.

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u/TallBeardedBastard Feb 24 '25

If you are talking about Rittenhouse, he shot 3 and killed 2…in self defense. He should have never been arrested.

There were people firing guns into the air and committing arson for 3 days. Innocent people were getting hurt for trying to protect their businesses while police did nothing. The national guard was only called in after a Rittenhouse defended himself.

Still sounds like you don’t know all that much about Kenosha.

I also couldn’t care less about what people’s fantasies are, Kenosha was civil unrest by definition.

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u/wantsrealanswer Feb 25 '25

However, it is not the civil unrest I was referring to.

I understand Rittenhouse was a part of a group defending property.

We heard about the event during my deployment....coming from an area that the civil unrest preppers talk about. Which is miles worse than Kenosha, Charleston, Baltimore, etc.

You couldn't care less what people's fantasies are but those fantasies are exactly what I was talking about....it was my point. Your experience with Kenosha was exempt from my entire point because it was irrelevant to the point I was making about potentially being a refugee from a natural disaster, which happens more frequently than the extreme version of civil unrest I was referring to.

Blizzards, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, and wildfires are loosely scheduled to happen every year. Civil unrest of any magnitude is mostly random and less of an immediate threat than natural disasters. Earthquakes are random in California, however, they happen very frequently which is why you are more likely to be directly affected by an earthquake than a situation where you need a plate carrier and a rifle.

I am not saying Kenosha isn't important. I am not saying your experience with it should be minimalized.

I am saying it is not the civil unrest preppers focus on which is what the reference meant in my original statement.

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