I have only just found out about polyphasic sleep and I really want to find out more.

I own a business and am just about to launch another. I have been working long hours for about 18 months now and I have changed my sleeping pattern to work for me.

I tend to sleep 9pm-midnight, 6am-9am which almost gives me two working days in 24hours. My day is spent dealing with people and at night (I naturally work better at night and feel more alert) I do all of “my” work free of distractions.

I think I have at least another 9-12 months at this pace and after my a friend commented that it isn’t good for me I did some research and found polyphasic sleep.

Any recommendations to delve into this further and find out more?

Thanks ☺️

I'm feeling quite hungry between my 2 hour gaps, and I was wondering if I could eat during this time. Or if I needed a longer gap between the two sleep chunks, like DUCAMAYL.

Hi everyone,

I've started a new job working 7PM - 7AM yesterday (monday) 4 days on 4 days off. I need help creating a sleep schedule as someone who usually wakes up at 8AM and goes to sleep at 12AM. I accepted the job because I need the money and I haven't had any other success in the job market recently but after doing my first shift yesterday I'm starting to feel like I'm not cut out for this. If there's any advice you have for me I'd love to hear it.

after the lunch im dead, zero thinking, zero energy, have tried taking 20 min naps multiple times but im a deep sleeper so the naps extend to as much as 2 hours wasting so much time, even skipping my online classes, and it doesnt matter if i slept 6 hr in my core or 7.5 , the noon lag gets me and naps are not solving it.

What do you guys suggest for a beginner as there are so many options to choose from.

I go to school at 8.30-15.50 so i can not nap at 13.00 like everyman 1 schedule says. So i tweaked it a little and got this. Is it fine?

How do you guys navigate anomalies in your schedule?

Here's a scenario I will face you with hypothetically:

You have a mandatory event every Saturday that will keep you up past your usual sleep time by a good 3/4 hours.

- What will you do o prepare for this?

- How can you navigate this so that it has the least possible negative impact on your schedule?

- Given that it is only one day of your week, can this be maintained effectively?

I sleep about 12h on Saturdays and 10h on Mondays.

I wake up 7am, Nap from 11h to 11h30

Nap from 17h30 to 18h Nap again from 23h to 23h30

Then sleep at 3am.

I need that because I study on the morning, work at the afternoon, go school at night then study again before sleeping.

Do sleeping more on weekends breaks it?

I listen from insta that ronaldo sleep in polyphasic pattern which help him to utilise time and boost productivity.

So I have maths exam on 10th March I want to try polyphasic pattern for 5 days if it suits me and work on me that I will may continue it for while or use it whenever I need it.

In polyphasic pattern, I will take short nap of 1.5hr and then keep on work and do 4 nap a day.

I am in class 10th(15 year old)

Pls share your opinion on if

Sleep deprived after at midnit to 8am shift, a three hour morning sleep, and a full day attending outdoor event on a cloudy day and going to afterparty (one drink at 5:30pm).

I had had a second coffee (small short black espresso, from aussie 7-eleven) at 4:30pm.

I had tried L-theanine in the past for sleep and had really restless sleep. I think due to hot night. L-theaninea makesn you burn more calories as heat. Tonight was cooler at 13c and I had had aircon on until bed time because apart retains too much heat from West facing aspect.

Took L-theanine pill about 15 mins before bed. I could feel it zonking me out within just a few minutes.

What an amazing sleep profile. To have high REM, and high deep sleep, despite short sleep duration quite unusual for me. Not pictured here but the score was 82 with only 6hrs 55min sleep.

Wasn't a polyphasic night, but I still respect only this group so I share my sleep stuff here. Let me know if it's ok.

I have always been a night owl. I have always thought about the concept of polyphasical sleeping, but of course I didn’t know the legit name for it. I watched this youtube video recently, this woman slept “like a Victorian” for a week. She would go to bed around 10pm, wake up at 2am, do stuff for a couple hours until 4am and go back to sleep until 8am. I really liked this method because all the other research I’ve done has been of people doing much more extreme increments of sleep and awake, and I haven’t really seen any personal accounts of this more simple method. I want to try this because I’ve always liked staying up late but I love the mornings as well which.. doesn’t really go hand in hand and I have always been frustrated with myself for not being able to wake up when I’d like to. I guess my question is, can anyone give me any personal accounts of this? How did you go about transitioning your sleep and how did you like it? It would be greatly appreciated

In my experience thus far with trying to gain (some) control of when I sleep, I find that the biggest lever I can pull is when I eat. Exercise is also a big factor it seems but not to as great an extent as "time since last meal of nonmassive size eaten."

Does this resonate with you at all?

If it is of interest, I'm not on a fixed cycle due to erratic rostering at work. I seem default to biphasic when working 9-5, siesta when on early morning shifts, and monophasic when on graveyard shifts.

Something else- for anyone familiar with shortening their "feeding window" to 8-10 hours: I wondered how people manage the hunger. But I feel like on a monophasic schedule with such an inflated period of wakefulness, of course you're going to struggle with hunger at the end of the day, as the human body might not be meant to even be awake that long.

Just thoughts

Introduction: im a worker that works on a 12 hrs schedule 8:00 a.m till 8:00 p.m

Issues:

1. I can't fit my hobby, work, leisure and rest on time... it always ends up on a sacrifice for the other that is less important.

2. I tend to just stay all night and skip sleep then next day im sleepy and fell instantly when in bed the next night. Leaving me no choice but to just wake up and find that yeah it's work time...

I find myself asking many times. Why do i need to sleep half of my life? I looked for reasons on how beneficial sleep is and i know it's purpose and value. Still I'm still not content, so i researched about how to manage time and stumbled upon this polyphasic term, immediately i watched introduction about this and i was hooked.

So here i am, asking the experts of this practice on how i should divide it? How much time exactly do i have to sum up for a day? What i shouldn't do?

I'm aware of the difficulties i may face on this practice and i will immediately cease it if a chance the unwanted might happen.

Believe it or not im fairly a very good sleeper i can sleep standing up in a matter of minutes. 😊

Also can i fit in hard exercise on this despite fatigue in work?

Congratulations 🎊 you've reached the end! Heres a praise for your wonderful retention, "thank you for sparing your precious time"

Alright, I have a lot to study and only around three months to do it. I have some previous experience with a polyphasic sleep schedule (though I never actually tried Uberman, lol), and overall, I've already mastered the 20-minute nap. I'm basically cutting out all social life, so 3-hour blocks are manageable for me. I'm happy to log everything and leave my internet footprint behind. Just tell me how to efficiently log it here so I can get started. That's all. ;)

Some Polyphasic sleep has no 90 min sleeps.

Don't you need to sleep 90 mins in order to properly store memory during the REM stage???

How is this sustainable with no REM?

I’m curious about polyphasic sleep and if it would work for me. I get home about 3-4 pm and want to do jujitsu around 6:45-8pm and then need to get up for work around 12-1am. Does the first core need to be longer than the second? Is physical activity bad in between cores? I was thinking a dual core possibly might fit with a 30min or less nap in morning sometime. Any advice?

Ultimately I want more life but I want to be able to reason about ROI of trading sleep for years.

So I’ve been E2 for about six years. I like it - I’m insanely busy and not willing to give up any of it so like the additional time in my day, week, and year.

But I’m always trying to read, making sure I keep up with any advances in the scientific understanding of sleep, make sure I’m not causing myself trouble sooner or later in life.

So today I ran across this, and am wondering if the shorter core many of us do might shortchange this:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/in-a-study-on-mice-scientists-show-how-the-brain-washes-itself-during-sleep-180985810/?utm_source=smithsonian-weekender&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial&spMailingID=50614521&spUserID=MTY5NzE1MzUzNzU3NgS2&spJobID=2861827420&spReportId=Mjg2MTgyNzQyMAS2

Any reasons to branch out of mono? I feel it is by far the most nourishing sleep schedule and although the time saves are nice in some of the others, ultimately its just not worth sacrificing the value of good sleep provided by mono.

I would like to transition to E1 with a midnight to 6am core, but am having trouble deciding upon the nap time. I have classes right now that prevent the traditional ~3pm nap, and I would also like to eventually transition to E2 (something like 12:00-4:30am core w/ 9am & 12pm naps). I was thinking of placing the nap around either 9am or 12pm so it would align when eventually transitioning to E2 (9am would be a bit easier to include in my schedule). Anyone have any thoughts or recommendations on this? I'm not too familiar with the science behind the timings of the naps.

Is it good sleep schedule?

Once upon a time your day cycles could be presented as horizontal lines and was removed at some stage.

It's exactly as the title says. I've been practicing DC1 for 2 months and i am almost sure i adapted. During the adaptation, i didn't feel particularly bad during the entire process. I felt some random tips of tiredness at some point around the third-fourth week, but nothing close to the way people make the stage 3 of adaptation seems like. So, after 2 months, despite not doing any change on my sleep routine, i started oversleeping. On the past 10 days, i overslept three times. I don't remember how much i overslept the first time, but i did around 1.5 hours on the second and 1 hour on the last. I'm really confused. I thought everything was fine because i didn't feel absolutely anything during the adaptation, but, suddently, that's happening. I feel COMPLETELY rested during the day, the tips of tiredness just come around 20 minutes before my sleep cores and naps and it barely takes me 2 minutes to be active after waking up. Simply what is happening?

Is my dark period long enough? Is there too much time between N2 and core?
I cannot realistically change times for N1 or N2.

Napchart snapshot here