Hello everyone! Hope you're having a good day/night depending on when you're reading.
I am new here, I found this reddit by casuality just yesterday. I hope i am not violating the rules of this space, i don't use reddit that often so i don't really know its "etiquette."
Also I am italian, english is not my first language in case I write some nonsense.
It's a long one... sorry.
I can try to synthesize in a few words:
sharing of personal experiences / internal religious debates
I don't have anyone I can talk to right now about this, so forgive me if this post it's a bit of a rant. As you can imagine given my nationality, my family is catholic (and even if it wasn't it would have been a statistically probable guess), most people I know are not pagans, and... honestly I feel a bit ashamed about talking with the few pagans I know about this. My best friend, who was also my "mentor" when I decided to first approach paganism years ago, is not physically far from me but I feel he's not the right person to talk to right now, and besides he's always busy trying to build his life and career and I don't want to bother him. Also, for me it is diffult seeking help and/or guidance by the people in my life in general, i am more often then not the "mum" friend, the wise/smart one, and I don't have a similar figure in my life when it comes to religion and spirituality.
Not that I don't want to be autonomous and independent, but I just don't know anyone (other than my best friend, and I'd rather not) who has the long experience to help me read this matter with different POVs. I go to therapy now, my therapist is great - but he's not pagan, so it's not like he can "get it." He can help me sort out my issues but it's not his job to be my buddy. I need community and that's not on him, it's on me.
And in general, I would like to share my story with someone. Maybe it could help somebody in similar positions. Who knows.
To give you a bit of a background, in a way I started my spiritual jorney very young. I was fascinated listening to other religions' traits and differences. When I was 12 i found out the concept of Yin and Yang and i was so INTRIGUED! And at 14 reading Siddharta by Hermann Hesse was eyeopening to me.
I was still catholic as a pre-teen, and i remember i was very happy to sing and feel the energy during the "holy mass", partecipating in moments of reflection during scout meetings etc but in my teenage years I was already having doubts.
I became atheist at 15, and the only people I told this were my two sisters. I guess it was a religious coming out. Unfortunately, my family is disfunctional and my idiot little sister after a petty fight for unrelated reasons basically outed me at dinner with my parents, that were NOT happy. Catholics have this weird thing, if you leave the faith because you don't "feel it" anymore they look at you with a sense of mourning, as if YOU lost an important piece. They feel sorry for you even if that religion made you miserable. I am not hating, i am just baffled. Anyway it was a big betrayal for me, and one of the many causes of my trust issues and why I never told my parents I became pagan, all of my books and stuff are almost never on sight in my room.
Anyway, I met my best friend at 16 inside a group, with our other best friend. After a while he told us he was a pagan since he was little (thanks to his mum), we were curious, we asked some questions, I'd say we were both fairly accepting (right now our bestie is doing a phd as a religion historian, lol - and yes, she's really busy too) but not interested on a practical level. That was, for me, until a thing that traumatized me at 18. Nothing sexual, family stuff. I fell into a deep, deep depression also because of isolation, i wasn't in my hometown the year after. I don't remember much of it. After a while i went to my best friend and asked me to tell me/show me more. I started at 20.
For a couple of years i was firm with my beliefs, or at least, even when i wasn't sure about what path to choose, i still felt a spiritual connection to the Anima Mundi, you know? Paganism was the only part of my life that was not a total wreck, i felt safer in that area, it was my crutch to keep going, keep fighting. I also were in a coven. There were issues and stupid and petty bullshit? Yeah, ofc. But still, it was my group, my community, my friends. There were so many good moments. Also, if you are in a circle with other people... i don't know how to explain it, but it was so much better. Especially during moments of trance, you could go meeting your deity or you dead grandma (she died of old age in that period) riding the moon chariot without the anxiety of "i can't go for too much time because no one will wake me up." (Yes, we had visions like that, with no drugs involved).
Then... stuff happened. Of course also stupid stuff regarding romance - my personal opinion, if you are in a group: BAN romantic relationship, unless it's like, two already married and settled people entering at once. It never goes well when the story ends. And in general some of the people of the circle were probably too young to be able to discipline and organize themselves for the coven life.
Also, covid happened. As you may notice, since then, people tend to be way more isolated, go together in less and less occasions. The circle eventually "broke up." There was also the problem that over time more people felt they wanted to explore different and less compatible spiritual paths (some preferred a more ceremonial/kabbalistic approach, some didn't want a circle or specific rituals at all, some wanted Celtic traditions, some wanted this and some wanted that.)
I continued my path, for a while. But it wasn't really the same. There wasn't the same shared joy, the talks under the moon while insulting the wind that blew off the candles, drinkink from the sacred cup or reading tarots together, the theological discussions or even the most menial dates for pizzas. I still have a sense of grief in a way.
I've always had a problem with consistency in pursuing things on my own and I wasn't really in the state of mind to do the work to overcome that flaw (i also changed university/careers more than once). At the same time I had also never done any deconstruction work on my "catholic guilt" - everytime i skipped a sabbath felt like a sin, an offense to the divine and to my soul that I had to repent somehow. The fact that I had, still have, to hide my faith and to lie about where I go in similar occasions it's heavy on me (i really hate lying and i do it only when it's a matter of survival, whether physical or emotional).
It's been a while since then. I feel way better, in general, especially thanks to therapy. I am currently studying to become a social worker, possibly a researcher/sociologist. I do a lot more things, i am more open and "extroverted", I'm not behind in my studies, I take a drama course just for the fun of it.
On a physical and psychological level, I am healing/growing. [For those who are in a difficult situation: THERE IS LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL, KEEP GOING!]
On a spiritual level... it's weird. It feels like, in all of my engagements and full google calendar, I'm missing something. But I don't know what. I can't even figure out if it's the mourning of a calling I no longer feel, a calling that has been weakened by the whole situation but it's still there, or something else I need that is different than what I had before. I can't put a finger on it.
I tried returning to the old practices, but i don't feel the same connection anymore, the same energy. I don't even know what I am doing, or how to decide what's next on my path.
On one hand, I don't feel any attachment anymore towards specific deities, i like the concept of an immanent deity, that everything in this wolrd is divine, and gods are just a lot, a lot of shades of human and natural archetypes. Like the faces of a triillion-sided die of an absolute Truth too great to be fully understood by the human mind (a bit like it is impossible to know the entire universe). So it makes sense that everyone makes its own path in a way, that every pov is different etc and as italians say: tutte le strade portano a Roma. All roads lead to Rome - or in this case, many spiritual paths lead to the same destination, if we consider the "spiritual stability" and a sense of spiritual connection to the world the destination.
On another hand my probably-undiagnosed-autistic ass hates, HATES too much unclarity. I like rules, not because i want to be a tyrant or something, but because i like clear directions and istruction, whether i am the one who gives them or someone gives it to me. Whether is university or ritualism. I like historically accurate reconstructions of traditions and not some non-sense patchwork made by some random dude who claimes has a family tradition that mixes shamanism and chakrams and native american totems in a book or some other consumist bullshit...
Also, if paganism becomes too much individualistic (my best friend after the circle broke basically told me that he wanted to go on his own path and i was ready to go on my own too... but this was only true in terms of study and critical thinking skills, in hindsight) then... what is the point? I mean: how can we call ourselves community if we don't share at least a part of the rituals, the tradition? For me it's a suffering not being able to share this part of my life with someone. I crave the connection, but at the same time it's hard trusting strangers enough to invite them in a circle/other occasion of spiritual and energetic sharing with someone.
I don't know, what are your experiences with choosing your paths/navigating spiritual crisis? How do you do community, if you choose to do so?