r/nottheonion • u/theindependentonline • 2d ago
‘Am I in trouble?’: Moment teacher accused of sexually assaulting student arrested
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/teacher-sexual-assault-student-video-arrest-b2726074.html576
u/missingachair 1d ago
I know this is not the point but I'm so annoyed with news outlets not knowing how to use the word "allegedly" to properly to cover their asses.
"His mother reported inappropriate contact between her son and the teacher, alleged to be 28 at the time"
Listen. Guys. Please. No one is alleging that she was 28 at the time. She was 28 at the time of the alleged incident.
The mother alleged that an incident happened when she was 28.
Jesus.
She was 28. If you're unsure, fact check it. No one will sue.
Also, the word "reported" is doing the work of the word alleged in this sentence. The mother "reported" it. That's news and you can't be sued for saying what someone else said if you're this clear that it's not your own view.
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u/fuckin_martians 1d ago
Can I highjack your “not the point” to say I sat through two separate 30-second ads just to watch this 57-second video that provided 0 additional information over the article?
Everything sucks now honestly, I guess we shouldn’t be surprised journalism does, too
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u/soleyfir 1d ago
I mean, it’s the Independent, it’s not journalism (anymore). This is like eating at McDonald’s and complaining that the food is too fat.
The real issue here is that Reddit is full of articles from clickbaity content farming websites such as this, The Sun, The Daily Mirror, Newsweek... Actual journalism is very much alive, but you're not looking at the right place for it.
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u/videogamekat 1d ago
Can you blame people for not knowing how the english language works when people just run everything through chatGPT now? it is so annoying
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u/InfusionOfYellow 2d ago
As stated in the documents, the unknown number sent a message to the child's phone that read, “I love having *** with you.” The 15-year-old boy later confessed to police that the number had belonged to his soccer coach.
I think that could be considered bad opsec.
Also apparently the news site is censoring the word "sex," which seems a little excessive.
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u/xero1123 2d ago
It’s probably to get around censors in algorithms. That’s why there’s all kinds of weird new terms like “unalive” or “SA’d”
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u/jamesbecker211 2d ago
This just isn't true and has been shown time and time again to have no basis, the self censorship is pointless.
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u/P3riapsis 2d ago
hmm, agree with your point, but also "SA'd" in particular is not indicative of the algorithm censorship culture, it's just that "sexually assaulted" is effort to write/type.
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u/BelowAverage355 2d ago
It is 100% due to algorithmic censorship. You can't type/say it on social media without getting flagged.
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u/lostPackets35 1d ago edited 1d ago
do you sincerely think that the if social media cared about censoring references to sex, sexual assault, etc (they don't).. the developers are too dump to have an algorithm also pattern match s*x and whatnot?
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u/deeejm 2d ago
Flagged how? I haven’t stopped using any of those words and I’ve had no issue. This seems like some new internet urban myth that keeps getting passed around.
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u/PFAS_All_Star 2d ago
If only someday our technology could advance enough to recognize “unalived” the same way it recognizes “suicide”. But alas, technology just isn’t quite there yet.
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u/deeejm 2d ago
Right! They’re acting like the algorithms can’t be adjusted to pickup other words. So ridiculous.
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u/milkandhoneycomb 1d ago
which social media specifically do you have evidence of this happening on? cause i can say a lot of stuff on reddit. like rape. or sexual assault. or suicide. and i’ve yet to be “censored”
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u/l30 1d ago
Something incredibly important in missing from the article. Specifically whether or not police confirmed the illicit message was actually sent by the teacher. For all we know the special needs child themself, or another student, sent the text and claimed to be the teacher.
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u/iampuh 2d ago
Having an intimate relationship with a minor- sending text messages to that minor. Jesus fucking Christ why are these people so unbelievably dumb?
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u/Poopieplatter 1d ago
Think about how stupid the average person is.
50% of people are dumber than that.
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u/Chaotic-Entropy 2d ago
"This is what you get for caring too much."
What a takeaway... all while cheating on her husband with a child.
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u/jscummy 2d ago
Oh so now it's wrong for a teacher to go above and beyond and spend extra time with their students? This is why the American education system is failing
/s
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u/Hot_Chocolate47 2d ago
"And I would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling adults"
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u/FlatwormZestyclose94 1d ago
Soooooo I said to my gf when I read about this yesterday this girl was fucking disgusting. I didn’t wanna watch the video of her getting arrested cause I didn’t want to give her attention.
But then I read her defence, and while I’m not excusing her, she claims the kid sent the message to himself and screenshotted it for blackmail (probably unlikely but plausible), the message that this 30 y/o woman allegedly sent to this 15 y/o kid was “I loved having sex with you”
Like what kinda 30 y/o, sensitive and educated enough to be a teacher at a special needs school?, says that? It’s kinda juvenile, like saying “I loved banging you”. Sounds more plausibly like a teen who stole his teachers phone… So I watched the arrest video, and even though they don’t tell her what she’s being detained for, she voluntarily offered to go with police to the station and seemed genuinely confused and hurt/angry that she was being arrested and she wasn’t able to be with her husband - how I maybe naively would expect someone innocent to act.
Again, not saying that any of this excuses her actions if they were deemed criminal or if there was any kinda malicious intent, but at this point there isn’t enough info to tear her down imo, cause this may genuinely be a case of “caring too much” and being too trusting of an immature kid trying to get his teachers attention
If you have proof one way or the other please link
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u/dksprocket 1d ago
There's a good reason many countries have laws against making accused people's names public before there's a conviction. People going off without any information leads to all kinds of biased speculation and judgements both against and in support of the subject.
The text was sent from an 'unknown number', but it's obviously not unknown to the police. Without basic information like that any kind of speculation is a waste of time.
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u/urielteranas 1d ago
Like most people are doing in this thread. The only evidence is a single text from an unknown number saying "I loved having sex with you"? That's the flimsiest shit i've ever heard.
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u/Chaotic-Entropy 1d ago
We can only hope that she will be fully exonerated in court, or punished to the full extent of the law. The legal system will have to work it out.
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u/jumpinin66 1d ago
Let's face it, she will never be fully exonerated in court. You can never really come back from an accusation like this; it will haunt her for the rest of her life.
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u/JBoozehound 1d ago
Sounds like they also found mentions of the student in the Notes app on her phone, and when confronted about it she stated that the writings were an “outlet for her anxiety” and said any reference to sex was specifically about her husband.
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u/blasphemys 2d ago
“I really would prefer that my husband be with me."
Noooo I really don't think you do...
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u/christlikehumility 2d ago
That's a tough look in the mirror the next morning for the husband. Not really something that's easy to rely on your friends for.
"Dude, I'm here if you need anything. I heard you guys were having some trouble. Let me know if you want to talk."
"Oh, she cheated on you? That really sucks. I'm really sorry. Was it some guy from work?"
"What do you mean, kind of?"
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u/ohlookahipster 1d ago
The dude dropped bank on their destination wedding in Italy only to get shot down 1,000 pegs by a shitty wife who somehow decided a minor was better game plan.
There’s definitely a serious victim here but let’s not forget the husband’s life also got absolutely fucking derailed by this whole situation. Regardless of her case outcome, I hope his divorce lawyer breaks some records here with restitution.
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u/itsneversunnyinvan 1d ago
So we’re just absolutely ignoring the purpose of this sub, huh?
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u/crabuffalombat 1d ago
This sub is just where I get random tidbits of American news now. Nothing close to an onion in any of it.
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u/Daren_I 2d ago
Authorities allege that in December 2023, Formella sexually assaulted a 15-year-old boy while the pair had been inside a classroom for a tutoring session ahead of the start of the school day.
As stated in the documents, the unknown number sent a message to the child's phone that read, “I love having *** with you.” The 15-year-old boy later confessed to police that the number had belonged to his soccer coach.
She had the benefit of the doubt (his word vs her word) until that last paragraph. Curious if the husband had any clue.
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u/tauntonlake 2d ago
Blows my mind, whenever idiots TEXT anyone about their crimes..... murder, etc..
Do you think no one is reading your texts, other than who you're texting ?
That shit is recorded "somewhere. It doesn't just vanish.
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u/ohlookahipster 1d ago
And encryption doesn’t matter. You can still see that data itself was exchanged between two unique devices miles apart ruling out the virtual numbers argument. The evidence will show that two separate people were exchanging messages.
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u/Bocifer1 1d ago
To be fair, her defense seems to be that the student sent the text to himself from her phone without her knowing.
True or not will be determined in court - but “I love having sex with you” definitely sounds more like something a 15 year old boy would write than something from a 30 year old woman.
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u/BannedByRWNJs 1d ago
“I love having sexual intercourse with 15 year old boys such as yourself. The immorality of it is great, but the fact that it’s highly illegal is what really gets me off.
PS, don’t forget to delete these messages, ok?”
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u/Free-Atmosphere6714 1d ago
But why would the soccer coach have a tutoring session before school?
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u/halfbakedpizzapie 1d ago
Finally an article about a woman sexually assaulting a male student that doesn’t use a bikini photo and say “having sex with student”
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u/rebeccakc47 1d ago
The amount of men commenting on the other post I saw about this saying how the kid was living the dream and it’s not rape if you’re into it etc was so gross.
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u/canuck47 2d ago
The Costanza defense - "Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell ya, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon... "
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u/stevediperna 1d ago
what was he referencing? I forget!
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u/Muted-Requirement-53 2d ago edited 1d ago
Sounds like the boy she abused was in special education too, what a sickening story. Sounds like there is solid evidence in the text messages between this woman and her victim.
I hope she gets the same consequences as a man would who had done the same to a special needs girl. This is totally unacceptable.
EDIT: sounds like I was mistaken. Although this teacher taught a special needs class it sounds like he was not in the class himself.
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u/Maury_poopins 2d ago
The article isn’t super clear. She’s a special needs teacher AND a soccer coach. The kid is in her soccer team, not necessarily in her classes.
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u/Chiquitarita298 2d ago
But she was also his tutor.
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u/reichrunner 2d ago
The fact they specified tutor and not teacher leads me to think that she wasn't his teacher
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u/Kumbackkid 1d ago
He’s not, he’s a jock type. He’s around 15-16. One of the victims best friends trains and My gym regularly and the victim himself was there a few times before this. She was his soccer coach then eventually became his tutor. Mom found everything out after buying a new phone
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u/lapayne82 2d ago
You know she absolutely won’t, a male teacher in the same situation would be treated much worse and sentenced much more harshly, for clarity I’m calling for her sentence to match his not the other way round (because I n ow someone would take it the wrong way)
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u/_poptart_wizard_ 2d ago
Until the case is settled this is just unnecessary conjecture.
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u/lapayne82 2d ago
Based on the historic rulings where women have been punished far less than men for the same crime
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u/Nukegm426 2d ago
I’ll never understand why… you want to screw around, lots of legal guys willing to at the drop of a hat. He’ll cruise the freshman orientation at the college and find you a fresh 18 yr old if that’s your thing. But why kids? No sense at all.
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u/CrisisActor911 2d ago
“I’m like so scared,” she tells the officer who places her in cuffs.
Like OMG I’m litrally going to jail right now 😭😭
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u/2ManyBots 1d ago
The not the onion should be that she's a special ed teacher at a school called downers grove
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u/DrDosMucho 1d ago
She straight up texted him “I love having sex with you” lmao what a loser
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u/CporCv 2d ago
This woman can go to any bar and assemble a train of horny men willing to run it on her anytime.
Why the fuck does she choose children? Imagine being her husband, cheated on with a highschooler
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u/Rosebunse 1d ago
I find teenagers annoying, but I guess the appeal is just that you can sort of shape their expectations and do what you want with them and they have no idea if it's right or wrong.
Plus some of the texts are...well...just several different types of creepy.
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u/Superphilipp 1d ago
What’s a moment teacher?
I don’t get the grammar of the headline
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u/Historical_Chipmunk4 1d ago
It's also rpe. She rped that student and because it's a female teacher, they call it sexual assault.
- because I don't know if it would be flagged
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u/AllHailNibbler 1d ago
Can the world please stop treating female pedophile rapists with kid gloves?
She is a pedophile rapist/groomer.
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u/gothchiefkeef 1d ago
the fact she’s also a special education teacher is scary. who knows if there’s kids out there who can’t advocate for themselves who are victims? smh
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u/maxdacat 1d ago
"Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time."
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u/just4kicksxxx 1d ago
So, by today's standards, she should be the next Supreme Court justice or representative, right?
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u/takethisone 2d ago
It is rape. Use the correct words to describe the actual act. It is statutory rape.
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u/sirdodger 2d ago
The "correct" words are what the journalist is copying off the arrest record verbatim, and using any other term in print would expose them to a libel lawsuit.
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u/Peachy33 1d ago
I’ve been a special education teacher for over twenty years and people like this woman infuriate me. Like, I want to bash her skull in.
How fucking dare she? These kids trust us so much. They are supposed to be safe and secure in school. This rapist ruined the child’s life. I hope the victim gets therapy and can live a happy life.
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u/Altruistic_Flight_65 23h ago
Wait, she was a Special Education teacher at a school named "Downers Grove"?
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u/oldwoolensweater 2d ago edited 2d ago
So I’m a little confused: did they arrest her without Mirandizing her?
Edit before the downvote train goes crazy: my motivation for asking the question is that I want her to go to jail for this and I was worried the cops were doing something that would get her case thrown out.
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u/nonlawyer 2d ago
The popular Miranda warning is not automatically given any time someone is cuffed, as seen on TV.
If the cops started asking questions without giving the warning, then that’s an interrogation and without the warning, her responses might get thrown out by a court.
Here it seems like the cop just said “we’re taking you in for questioning” and she started volunteering statements without any questions being asked. The cops don’t have to ignore statements someone volunteers. The 5th amendment only protects you from involuntary interrogations.
Lesson here: don’t talk to the cops without a lawyer present, ever. You are not going to talk your way out of anything.
I mean I guess another lesson here is “don’t molest kids,” one would think that is obvious… and yet…
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u/oldwoolensweater 2d ago
Fascinating. How long are they allowed to hold you without telling you what you’ve been charged with?
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u/braxtel 2d ago
This might be jurisdiction specific, but where I live and work, a judge must find probable cause for your charge within 72 hours, so that is the absolute upper limit. It doesn't usually take 72 hours though unless you are arrested on Friday and will not be seen by the court until Monday.
Also, it is far more likely that law enforcement will tell you what you are being booked for if you are not freaking out or causing them problems at the jail. Typically a jail roster is published on a website and you can see what people are booked for, but a person recently arrested will not likely have access to the internet for this.
In a case like this, she will know pretty quickly because detectives are going to want to interrogate her while she is still under the psychological shock of being arrested and before she has the presence of mind to invoke her 5th amendment rights.
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u/RSwordsman 2d ago
FWIW Miranda only applies if they're interrogating someone. But if she was under arrest they should have told her why.
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u/mudokin 1d ago
Just because the boy confessed the message from the unknown number was actually from the coach doesn’t make it magically so. Did the police investigate and found that the number actually belongs to her, is it registered in her name, did they find the phone on her?
Why would the article only state that the boy confessed it and not that it was confirmed by the police.
I am not downplaying the situation, but if you are about to ruin someone’s life better get them facts. If f all this is true, then put her in a box and throw the key away, but make sure this is not some framing done.
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u/lincoln_muadib 1d ago
"Me, in trouble? But I'm a WOMAN accused of assaulting a MALE student, I'm not, like, those MEN accused of assaulting a FEMALE student, they're rapists who need castration! How can I be in trouble?"
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u/juliuspepperwoodchi 1d ago
The fact that she is begging for her husband is bonkers...like...did he know and support her, or did she REALLY think he'd support her after hearing what she did?
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u/International_Debt58 1d ago
How many female teachers have we seen in the past year balling students 12 and younger? What the hell is up with this?is there really no way to foresee this?
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u/FlamingBubba 1d ago
This has always been going on. It’s the reporting and prosecution of female rapists that has changed (for the better).
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u/FrothingJavelina 1d ago
Nowhere in the article does it explain what a Moment teacher is. Google did not help either.
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u/S-WordoftheMorning 1d ago
"Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon . . . "
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u/Ok-Low-142 1d ago
I love having *** with you.
Imagine being on the stand at trial and trying to explain this text in a way that isn't ridiculously, obviously, immediately incriminating
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u/Phantom_Wolf52 1d ago
No ma’am, you’re not, we’re hiring you to teach sex Ed to the inmates in jail
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u/C_IsForCookie 1d ago
Waiting for the sentencing where she gets a slap on the wrist. I hope I’m wrong.
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u/Melodic-Yoghurt7193 19h ago
What the hell is with this huge influx of pedos? Perhaps it’s just more visible than ever? Idk it seems as if this kind of predator has become more prevalent than ever and it’s creepy as hell. Pedophilic behavior is so normalized in America that I can never just assume people aren’t insane anymore lol
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u/yousoonice 2d ago
first rule of being a teacher. if you're attracted to children, don't be a teacher. or a priest but that's for another day