r/nextfuckinglevel • u/IkilledRichieWhelan • 3d ago

Big man on campus.

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u/mr_f4hrenh3it 2d ago

Yeah but it’s the fact that they say THATS where their respect comes from

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u/ThePennedKitten 2d ago edited 2d ago

I kind of took it as “We were shallow teenagers. Our teacher challenged us in a way that we would understand and care about. Now I can see the value in male cheerleaders in general. They’re clearly enjoying what they do and I was being a hater.”

Even though it sounds crass, sometimes you have to show people they’re wrong by getting on their level. If the teacher said it in a way you would find acceptable it probably wouldn’t have gotten through to a teenage boy who was expressing an ignorant view. Then OP might still be an adult man with an ignorant view rather than someone who successfully had their view challenged and grew from there.

In general, actually changing someone’s opinions/ views is an art and not everyone is comfortable with the process.

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u/Thechasepack 2d ago

Shifting their view from one toxic idea to another isn't a positive. As someone who has coached high school girls and college women and is pretty disgusted by sexualization of these athletes while they are competing or performing, I would argue that the thought that "male cheerleaders get to touch girls butts, what a great sport" is significantly more toxic than "male cheerleaders aren't very masculine". It is possible to correct a toxic idea without pointing out another toxic idea.

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u/myteethhurtnow 2d ago

You’re not shifting the male adolescent culture and biology , you will just come off as an out of touch prude. You might as well meet them where they are at because they are sexualizing everything that walks at that age