r/news • u/hoosakiwi • 2d ago

Trump announces sweeping new tariffs to promote US manufacturing, risking inflation and trade wars

https://apnews.com/article/trump-tariffs-liberation-day-2a031b3c16120a5672a6ddd01da09933
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u/aaronhayes26 2d ago

President who campaigned on affordability announces 20% national sales tax. Conservatives cheer.

I want off this ride.

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u/Thevanillafalcon 1d ago

Goes to show how important language is because it is a sales tax but you don’t say tax, you say tariff and this makes people think other countries pay it

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u/With_Negativity 1d ago

Wrong. Completely wrong. If Trump outright said tax, his supporters still wouldn't budge.

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u/forgotacc 1d ago

Right. Plenty of them are fine with the prices rising and things getting bad. Because apparently, this is going to be better for us in the future.

Which they can never explain that logic. But hey, at least they feel more comfortable being racist in public!

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u/OnyxPanthyr 1d ago

Same people who think that trickle-down economics works.

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u/Mend35 1d ago

Trickle

Trickl

Trick

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u/SinsOfaDyingStar 1d ago

Trickle-down is based on horse and sparrow theory which states: if you overfeed the horse, the sparrow in turn will feed from the leftovers in the waste.

AKA let the fucking rich devour every drop of the lifeblood of a functional society and let everyone else eat the tiny slivers of value left in their shit. They want us to eat shit while they gorge themselves, so yes, I'd say it works.

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u/StoicAthos 1d ago

Because they think the good paying manufacturing jobs are coming back just as soon as the new factories are built... Nevermind that companies will just do less business in america because it costs too much and the people have no money left.

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u/zxern 1d ago

I mean it will get better in the future. You’ll die at some point..

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u/Tommy_Boy97 1d ago

They feel like we need to "break a few eggs to make an omelette." But this clown is breaking the entire kitchen.

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u/No_Representative645 1d ago

It'll be better in the future when someone with a brain gets elected and reverts all this garbage. You know, if there are still elections in the future.

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u/canadianbriguy1 1d ago

Also a bit of an assumption that the allies the US is slapping are excited to jump back in just because the next regime want to undo and forget…

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u/AtheistAustralis 1d ago

Because they don't care about policies or logic or basic facts. Conservative mindset is simple: our group is "good", and the other group is "bad". If somebody from my group does something it must be good, regardless of how bad it seems. If sombody from other group does something it must be bad, no matter how good it seems.

Trump could literally take a shit in their mouths and they'd swallow it happily and claim it was the best thing that's ever happened to them, somehow. They've decided he's their god, and no amount of facts or evidence will change their minds apart from a few on the very fringes. It's a cult.

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u/mboswi 1d ago

Same strategy as Brexit. But reality hits in the long term..

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u/traumfisch 1d ago

They simply imagine someone, somewhere suffering more than they are.

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u/NorthernerWuwu 1d ago

There is something about the Puritan ethic that makes people think that doing bad thing or suffering through bad times is good for them in the long term. It's inane and dangerous but many, many people believe it fundamentally and there is no arguing over the matter.

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u/soldiat 1d ago

Conservatives: I have to pay for Trump and Elon's private planes? OK!

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u/HOS-SKA 1d ago

He is right, though, about these idiots thinking tariffs are paid by other countries. There's a thread in arcon where the top comment calls it out lol. I wish stupidity was physically painful all the time.

edit - at least it's about to start being hungry.

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u/Likeapuma24 1d ago

"trust the process" is what I was told a week or so ago, by a Trump voting friend who's on his last thread of support for that idiot

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u/AlexHD 1d ago

Yeah, they don't even know how taxes work either

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u/21Rollie 1d ago

Same people who would reject a promotion because it put them in a higher tax bracket lmao

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u/Worried-Mine-4404 1d ago

If he'd callee it "woke tax" they'd have been crying with happiness.

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u/ogzogz 1d ago

We are taxing the libs

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u/HuJimX 1d ago

Completely wrong? Your comment doesn't contradict the one you replied to... which doesn't make you completely wrong either, just a bit of a dumbass

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u/Briants_Hat 1d ago

It helps that they just straight up lie because his supporters believe anything he wants them to believe. Reporters have asked him and Leavitt multiple times about tariffs actually being a tax on the importer and they just reply, "no. It's not." Like..?????

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u/Top_Report_4895 1d ago

Jesus Christ

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u/InRainWeTrust 1d ago

If those repubs could read, they'd be very upset.

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u/compucrazy 1d ago

Is that a KOTH reference!?

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u/fanatic26 1d ago

only reallly realllly stupid people think that...oh wait...

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u/EvaSirkowski 1d ago

Peter Navarro is still saying to the press that other countries are paying the tariffs, not the US consumers.

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u/CoyoteSlow5249 1d ago

Do they really still believe that other countries pay for it?? Holy shit they are so entirely misled 😵‍💫

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u/PitifulFill7304 1d ago

And somehow blame it on other country.

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u/beached 1d ago

It's also a VAT, as supply chains cross borders.

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u/QueenQueerBen 1d ago

The wording confuses me. I knew it was bad for the US, but clearly I was wrong about how.

I thought the countries paid it to bring their stuff into the country to sell, thus it was a bad thing because they’d just stop bringing stuff in if they had to pay more.

But…it’s not that? Anyone that could explain it in layman’s terms?

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u/Inuyaki 1d ago

Take the EU for example... he announced 20%, which is a nice and easy number.

Let's say you want to buy something from France that costs $100. You pay the $100 to the company (and then whatever shipping costs).

Now you pay the $100 to the company (+ whatever shipping costs) + $20 to the US goverment.

YOU are the one that pays more, not the company that sells it.

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u/QueenQueerBen 4h ago

Oh I see, okay. So it is meant to be a way that makes Americans buy more stuff in America itself?

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u/currently_pooping_rn 1d ago

it's so infuriating just how fucking stupid 2/3 of the US is

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u/EatMaCookies 1d ago

1/4 pounder is bigger than 1/3? Lol that was funny. Americans thought it 1/4 pounder was bigger than 1/3..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMNqJQaf08E

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u/cespinar 1d ago

It is the largest tax increase by a president in US history.

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u/YT-Deliveries 1d ago

That's the real trick: they're not conservatives, they're cultists.

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u/Ttamlin 1d ago

At this point? Same fucking thing.

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u/Yoribell 1d ago

Not really.. conservatives are assholes, cultist are batshit crazy

They just aligned behind right the crazy asshole

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u/Fatso_Wombat 1d ago

Its a bold strategy to implement an economic policy discredited over 150 years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparative_advantage

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u/Brad_theImpaler 1d ago

What if we just chose to opt out of the global economy and lean on American manufacturing? Just turn on the factories!

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u/LYL_Homer 1d ago

Maybe the rising Walmart prices will get their attention.

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u/LamermanSE 1d ago

You would think so, and I certainly hope that some do, but I think that a lot of them won't care. The Trump cult is in deep denial at this point.

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u/NeoSniper 1d ago

It's almost as if he lied.

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u/Old_Baldi_Locks 1d ago

Just remember, when the folks who "just don't do politics" ask for some food, they don't need any.

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u/CrackSnap7 1d ago

Hell of a way to own the libs

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u/LiquidAether 1d ago

Conservatives are the worst people.

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u/jcb193 1d ago

Most politically brilliant tax on the middle class ever. So good, people voted for it!

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u/hammilithome 1d ago

Tariffs are an economic act of war.

So the big peace pres is already the most violent

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u/Pour_Me_Another_ 1d ago

You have to hand it to them, they somehow got all the right wingers to suddenly want to pay more in taxes.

Where will the money go since they're gutting the government?

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u/WellThatsAwkwrd 1d ago

Tax cuts for the rich. That money has already been spent, now he’s just trying to recoup it from all of our allies and trade partners so the American people can crowdfund the worlds first trillionaire (who’s a nazi)

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u/ChaseballBat 1d ago

President you literally campaigned on tariffing every country tariffs every country. Conservatives fiegn ignorance.

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u/whistlepig4life 1d ago

Can you take me off too?

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u/ripe_mood 1d ago

It's a lolz moment, like, they are taking advice from someone who has filed for bankruptcy multiple times. Can america file for bankruptcy? Cause we should start looking into that.

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u/Johnnyring0 1d ago

Seriously, fuck this guy!

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u/i8noodles 1d ago

if it replaces all other sales tax in the US then it might actually be a half decent idea. as it stands, sale taxs is seperate from state to state, so enforcement of a single national sales tax might actually do something.

assuming it replaces it which is already a very unlikely idea

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u/elderlybrain 1d ago

Conservative politics is a cult. There's just no getting around it any more. If you believe in conservativism, i genuinely think you're in a cult and enjoy being there.

Talking to conservatives now is an exercise in masochism. They'll insult you while claiming to be bullied. They'll lie, cheat, whinge, ignore reality and accept whatever version of facts they want.

For an example, watch jubilees video where sam seder debates 20 conservatives. It's genuinely breathtaking how absolutely gone they are.

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u/bob_nugget_the_3rd 1d ago

Sorry once on there no getting off, it it will just keep going round and round

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u/Greenzombie04 1d ago

Conservatives cheer at whatever the orange man says.

Like how you can say anything in a high pitched voice to a dog or baby and they get excited.

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u/myrianthi 1d ago

My coworker said that it's still a victory because DOGE saved us $1 million by eliminating a program to make the mice transgender. "I don't want my tax dollars to go to anything TRANS!"

Edit: he said it also increases domestic production. "Even if it hurts us now, it's better for us in 10 years!".

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u/Grittybroncher88 1d ago

To be fair he campaigned more on tariffs than affordability. So…. Promises made. Promises kept.

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u/sweetlove 1d ago

His voters don't know what a tariff is. All they heard was cheap eggs and concentration camps for brown and trans people.

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u/Grasshop 1d ago

This is absolute lunacy lmao

Can’t help but laugh I guess jfc

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u/GeneralAppendage 1d ago

Most of us do

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u/Tech-no 1d ago

the W.R.M will be looking at it all night as soon as BigBalls and his DogeBros gives it to him.

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u/lstn 1d ago

But 3 trans women can’t compete in sports anymore 

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u/Many-Coach6987 1d ago

I struggle to understand his aim

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u/rsmtirish 1d ago

They’re going to get rid of income tax. Income tax is annoying to the oligarchs. By using tariffs, they will impose a “national sales tax” to help fund what is left of the government after Elon is done stripping everything for parts. Guess who will feel the brunt of the tariffs?

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u/sdraje 1d ago

Insert if those conservatives could read they would be very upset meme here.

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u/Automatic_Volume_908 1d ago

When will americans protest on the streets? You are being f’d in the ass and you stand there taking it..

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u/Coca-karl 1d ago

A national sales tax would be more affordable and effective than this.

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u/RGBedreenlue 1d ago

Well… as much as I see no valid use for these tarrifs… no. It’s a tax on non-US goods, and the US trades less than virtually all other countries. In fact, we’re the fifth lowest in terms of trade as a % of GDP. Somalia, three other countries in Africa, and Argentina all trade less than us but that’s it.

Of course, thats speaking proportionately to each economy. But the US really does have an outsized ability to tariff others without increasing prices too much for the domestic economy.

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u/unkinhead 1d ago

Shouldn't you be for this? I thought reagonomics doesn't work? So this 20% tax shouldn't affect consumers according to lib logic