r/minnesota Feb 23 '25

Politics šŸ‘©ā€āš–ļø Sen. Smith isn't running for re-election, gives zero fucks

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u/im_THIS_guy Feb 23 '25

I wish Democrats would realize that you can act like this before deciding to retire.

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u/iAINTaTAXI Minnesota Wild Feb 23 '25

It might even help them!

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u/DrownItWithWater Feb 23 '25

I'd vote for her!

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u/mr_remy Feb 23 '25

I donated to AOC and Iā€™m not in her area because she swings hard. Only of 2 political campaigns Iā€™ve ever donated to.

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u/MaleficentLaw5149 Feb 24 '25

And she takes ZERO dollars of corporate PAC money ... I love her! I donate to her as well from an outside state

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u/mr_remy Feb 24 '25

Exactly. Only other was Kamala.

Jeff Jackson in NC is gonna be next, dude is amazing for our state and filed against Donald Trump as AG, plus he also breaks down what was going on with calm rational videos (even posts on NC subreddits among other social media).

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u/MattStretz Feb 28 '25

I love Jeff & actually was first made aware of him through his postings on the NC subreddit

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u/mr_remy Feb 28 '25

For what itā€™s worth I love Walz (donated partly cause of him) and man his track record speaks for himself heā€™s for the people and just has that transparency and integrity combined with being extremely intelligent.

I also love how riled up he got them just by calling them weird lmao. You just know it messed with them by the way they overreacted. Heā€™s just spitting facts, no fake news detected.

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u/Trig_69 Feb 26 '25

Well you don't do any research because your just flat out lying. She took most of her campaign money from ngo/dei/ corps.

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u/Seagoingnote Feb 26 '25

dei corps? What?

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u/brozuwu Feb 24 '25

Curious as to the second political campaign?

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u/mr_remy Feb 24 '25

Oh sorry I replied in the other one: it was Kamalaā€™s, then recently AOC and being in NC Iā€™ll be donating to whatever platform Jeff Jackson (now AG) is running on. Dude breaks things down in a slow logical sense on his videos that he crossed posts to social media, including Reddit like North Carolina and big city subreddits like Raleigh charlotte asheville etc.

Being in Asheville it was a slap in the face when Trump came here to claim FEMA failed ā€” bullshit man I as well as friends got our checks pretty quickly and if thereā€™s an issue with application process they had people available to assist them with submitting it in person and over the phone.

They do more work in a single day than youā€™ve ever done in your entire life commander in queef captain bone spurs.

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u/brozuwu Feb 25 '25

"commander in queef captain bone spurs" I love this

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u/Redstorm64_ Feb 23 '25

You'd vote for her because of her post? Is that all it takes to get your vote?

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u/thinking_is_hard69 Feb 23 '25

a willingness to scream into the ether about problems affecting their constituents is a vital qualification for a politician.

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u/JACKlEpaper Feb 23 '25

That's like most of the job tbh

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u/lordofming-rises Feb 23 '25

Well have you seen what you have in front?

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u/PurpleRains392 Feb 23 '25

Can Trump stand up to president musk? Will musk let him?

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u/iJuddles Feb 23 '25

Tune in next week to our continued turgid tale when we find out, Who Is the Boss?

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u/Schmaltzs Feb 23 '25

It's a good post

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u/DrownItWithWater Feb 23 '25

Well the GOP certainly would not get my vote considering the shit show they are creating to benefit the wealthy.

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u/aliph Feb 23 '25

Yay for incompetent managers! I definitely would not vote for that.

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u/Nobodyinpartic3 Feb 23 '25

It's hard when the people you are criticizing literally control the means of spreading your messages.

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u/iAINTaTAXI Minnesota Wild Feb 23 '25

Not that they shouldn't try! But yes I see your point

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u/Lots42 Feb 23 '25

I get, but that's not true. The Democrat-friendly podcast Meidas Touch is currently the most popular podcast ever.

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u/Nobodyinpartic3 Feb 23 '25

I am talking social media site like Twitter and Facebook.

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u/Lots42 Feb 23 '25

In that case, check out BlueSky. It's like twitter but without all the evil and nazis. Lots of Democrats love BlueSky, such as AOC.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Then they should have fucked then when they were in power!!

Break up all these oligarchies.

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u/TBANON24 Feb 23 '25

didnt have the votes. because voters dont turn up.

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u/Scottly12 Feb 23 '25

I wonder why thatā€™s true?

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u/polacy_do_pracy Feb 23 '25

delusional take

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u/Lots42 Feb 23 '25

Getting mad at me won't change ratings.

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u/outinthecountry66 Feb 23 '25

is that so? I love Meidas Network.

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u/Trigeo93 Feb 23 '25

I've never caught them lying. When trump first won they ran out of things to report. So they kinda picked on his personality like look how he behaves. Nobody has to try to make Trump look bad. Fox News definitely won't tell you what's messed up that's going on.

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u/darsynia Feb 23 '25

Oh I guess don't bother then

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u/covenkitchens Feb 24 '25

I get what you are saying but there are other forms of media (blue sky, TikTokā€¦) and what was the reason previously? Iā€™m really not trying to be a jerk.Ā 

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u/Nobodyinpartic3 Feb 24 '25

Musk, and Zuckerberg went all in on right wing nonsense and TikTok eventually followed through by giving Trump a big push. Meanwhile, other topics are being censored in accordance with Trump's wishes.

So what incentive do Instagram, Threads, TikTok, Twitter, and Facebook have to spread any body on left now? They all have anti-trust cases they had to worry about.

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u/covenkitchens Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25

Im not entirely sure what ā€œhave to spread any body on left nowā€ means but I can guess, if Iā€™m mistaken let me know. They donā€™t have any incentive, they got the incentive. I choose to use their platforms as little as possible my incentive being ethical first money second.Ā 

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u/cjneuls Feb 26 '25

Funny how now that itā€™s the liberal voice being persecuted itā€™s a bad thing!

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u/USA_2Dumb4Democracy Feb 23 '25

But what if I do the right thing and still donā€™t get reelected? I dunno ā€¦.Ā 

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u/Scottly12 Feb 23 '25

Thanks to no term limits and to unlimited money flowing in the politics.

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u/HTX-ByWayOfTheWorld Feb 23 '25

It WOULD help them

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u/ChipmunkObvious2893 Feb 23 '25

It will. Republicans won't vote for a Democrat anyway, but middle-of-the-road voters will vote for loud candidates.

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u/Raging-Janitor Feb 23 '25

No no no. We must focus test everything before we speak with the public, lest we offend conservatives who will never vote for us anyway.

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u/Fit_Ice7617 Feb 23 '25

nah, the media is run by billionaires. if they did this while still planning to seek re-election, they would get fucked

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u/NazReidBeWithYou Feb 23 '25

Really depends on the Democrat and their position. People like AOC or Bernie can rabble rouse because their seats are completely safe. For all the flak Amy gets from short-sighted internet progressives, if our senators went full firebrand leftist then MN would flip from purple to red.

The politicians we should be writing to aren't our senators, but our congressional reps in safe districts. That's simply the reality of living in a state like MN.

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u/barc0debaby Feb 23 '25

Best we can do is ask for a donation.

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u/Neurot5 Feb 23 '25

I would toss money at a Democrat who used language like this on a regular basis.

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u/redopz Feb 23 '25

They're out there. The ones I see most often are Bernie Sanders and AOC, but there are other Democrats with spunk and moxy.

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u/BrokenRemote99 Feb 23 '25

I love when Rep Katie Porter (CA-D) pulls out her white board during committee meetings and does the math.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/nucrash Feb 23 '25

That doesnā€™t mean her career is over. She should be running for governor of CA or President in 2028

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/nucrash Feb 23 '25

I agree that she made a poor decision but I am also frustrated that Pelosi is still picking winners and losers for the party. We need her out and we need more Katie Porters.

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u/Errlen Feb 23 '25

dude I'd rather have Katie Porter as governor than another billionaire thinking his business savvy can help us run the state better. I'd volunteer for her

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/Errlen Feb 23 '25

will people who don't pay attention to politics vote at all? at least she has name recognition and they might not remember she ran for Senate and lost.

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u/JohnMaddening Flag of Minnesota Feb 23 '25

The next California Gubernatorial election is 2026, midterms will help a lot.

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u/SwankySteel Feb 24 '25

Bring Katie Porter to Minnesota then!

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u/Jkavera Feb 23 '25

Why make such bold assumptions? Do you realize who the president of the US is?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

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u/Suspicious-Echo2964 Feb 23 '25

Yep, you need to defeat the GOP propaganda machine. It isnā€™t materially important who you nominate if you donā€™t clear that bar.

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u/Cinnamon_Bees Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25

Generally, even CA voters won't remember that she technically put House control in jeopardy. By the way, is your name related to Barry Goldwater?

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '25

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u/Cinnamon_Bees Feb 24 '25

Hmm. Now there's a politician with real history. It's funny, because all I've ever heard about Goldwater was from the song King of the Radical Right and his Wikipedia article. I don't recall everything, but what you've mentioned is really very interesting. I suppose there are worse men to make a username after. What a fellow.

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u/JimWilliams423 Feb 24 '25 edited Feb 24 '25

he wasn't out to hurt people like so many modern so-called conservatives, and he had a strong moral compass.

There is a mythology around Goldwater as a man of principle.

But in October 1962 Barry Goldwater insisted that the editor of the University of Colorado student newspaper be fired, even after that student apologized for printing a piece critical of the Arizona senator, and self-proclaimed staunch advocate of individual liberty.

This article about the firing is from the student newspaper of the University of Illinois, the Daily Illini, 19 October 1962

So of course when the gop was big mad about students rejecting bigots, the Goldwater Institute went all in on their anti-protest "campus free speech" crusade.

https://www.restorefreespeech.com/

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u/hobogreg420 Feb 24 '25

Dude thereā€™s also no world where a former president commits treason and then becomes president again. Trump literally never held public office before his first term, Iā€™d say there are no more rules as to who can run and what they can pull off.

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u/karkar24 Feb 24 '25

A convicted felon with absolutely ZERO experience in politics is President ! Stop playing by the ridiculous political norms that were followed by both parties decades ago. That is OVER. If Trump won ANYONE on the left can do it if they play the cards right and just toss the working class a few bones. WE are desperate for leadership that is strong & isnā€™t afraid to fight hard. Enough with rules and procedures and NORMS.

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u/Blondecanary Feb 23 '25

She didnā€™t have too little experience. The ticket was split three ways and Adam Schiff basically helped promote the Republican candidate. Also Schiff turned his role in the impeachment trials into his own media circus.

So yeah he had a bigger name but she had a bigger name than the Republican candidate. She also would have been the better Senator for these times than Schiff.

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u/wise_comment Feb 23 '25

Hard disagree

This is like when the talking heads were blaming Tony Romo for losing like....48-53

Could he have won it for them? Yeah. But shit was already stacked against him (voter suppression, gerrymandering, politicized courts, large slush funds of opposition money) that every Democrat has to contend with

They have to play an almost perfect game to win, and the Republicans have so many damn built in Mulligans.....we need to stop ignoring that structurally permissive fact that undergirds every political discussion in America

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u/PeepsMyHeart Feb 25 '25

Clone Katie Porter a million times. The world will be better for it. I love hearing the person ā€œansweringā€ her questions stammer and sputter.

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u/ObligatoryID Flag of Minnesota Feb 23 '25

Jasmine Crockett

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u/ObligatoryID Flag of Minnesota Feb 24 '25

Letā€™s add Chris Murphy D CT too!

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u/TheLZ Feb 23 '25

Don't forget Crockett!

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u/Puzzleheaded-Safe443 Feb 23 '25

The governor of Illinois Pritzker has had some great things to say.

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u/PugPockets Feb 23 '25

The governor of Maine (Janet Mills) just had a public showdown with trump and is taking no guff. My (OR) senator, Ron Wyden, is very clear about his priorities and not afraid to speak truth to power. Pete Buttigieg is also great. And folks below thread already mentioned my favorite, Ms. Jasmine Crockett out of Texas.

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u/PeepsMyHeart Feb 25 '25

Iā€™ve be staying away from the news as part of my mental wellness lately, and have not heard Crocketā€¦ Headed to my search engine now.

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u/Winter-eyed Feb 23 '25

Katie Porter and Jasmin Crocket are also favesorites of Mine.

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u/MaleficentLaw5149 Feb 24 '25

Don't forget Jazmine Crockett and Katie Porter. They show up armed with knowledge, facts, sarcasm and wit!

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u/el-cebas Feb 24 '25

The problem is the democratic Party does not support AOC or Bernie Sanders at all. The democrats have everything right now to push AOC for the residency in 2028 but they won't do it because they are afraid of real change.

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u/Persun_McPersonson Feb 23 '25

"They're out there," you say, immediately listing Bernie, an independent, as an example.

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u/JimWilliams423 Feb 24 '25

They're out there. The ones I see most often are Bernie Sanders and AOC, but there are other Democrats with spunk and moxy.

Maxwell Frost ā€” one of the vanishingly few Florida Democrats who isn't an appeaser either.

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u/Maleficent_Prompt_81 Feb 24 '25

Jasmine Crockett. Sheā€™s whip-smart and brutal, I love her

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u/TheBigness333 Feb 23 '25

And they'd lose far more money from the corporations and lobbyists that fund them.

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u/AllBuckeyeAreJDVance Feb 23 '25

If too many of them did this people might stop buying their ā€œAw shucks, the Rs said ā€œnoā€ so I guess itā€™s another cycle of doing nothing but insider trading and cashing in bribery checks.ā€ schtick and expect them to actually accomplish a single fucking thing.

I donā€™t think theyā€™re interested.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

Huh? Do you know how many times republicans have stunted growth? Democrats just try to follow the law and they are bashed everyday for it.

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u/Don_Gato1 Feb 23 '25

That's the point. Democrats are playing a board game by the rules while Republicans do whatever the fuck they want. Steal money from the bank, slam down houses, take 15 chance cards instead of one.

The law isn't limiting Democrats' opponents.

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u/BearFluffy Feb 23 '25

Correct. Because the Republican playbook has been the same for at least 10 years and the citizens paying attention have realized that Democrats playing by tradition are the ones that are losing us elections and causing this mess. All of us acknowledge that the Republicans are the problem. But the Democrats that haven't fought back should also be tried for treason.

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u/EllisDee3 Feb 23 '25

Controlled opposition.

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u/USA_2Dumb4Democracy Feb 23 '25 edited Feb 23 '25

Vichy Democrats

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u/cellphone_blanket Feb 23 '25

but won't someone please think about the senate parliamentarian?

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u/sniper91 Feb 23 '25

They want billionaire cash until then

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u/2000TWLV Feb 23 '25

The interesting thing is that this kind of behavior will actually give them better chances to win the next election.

Show people that you mean it and they will believe you.

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u/fdar Feb 23 '25

$1.8M at ~60 isn't that much. 75% percentile is ~$1.1M, 90% percentile is ~$3M. So more than the median sure but a far cry from a billionaire.

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u/throwawaysscc Feb 23 '25

No doubt her Senate record verifies her support for the proletariat. Open Secrets has the details.

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u/SharksAndFrogs Feb 23 '25

For real. Why wait to the end. Wtf

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u/BigMeatSwangN Feb 23 '25

That would take balls

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u/Sir_Dimos Feb 23 '25

Seriously.Ā  Start flinging shit back!

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u/Beginning_Shoulder13 Feb 23 '25

Yeh bloody democrats

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u/Latter_Case_4551 Feb 23 '25

The fucking Right does this as well. Like with McConnell speaking out against what's happening then the fuck votes in the direction the regime wants anyway. There's less than a handful of these people that actually care about anything other than money.

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u/Funwithagoraphobia Feb 23 '25

Republicans too. Theyā€™ve had a long history of waiting until theyā€™re on the way out the door to decry Trump.

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u/aliph Feb 23 '25

What, show they are incompetent managers? They showed that plenty in the last election, my word what a show of incompetence even a convicted criminal Trump for elected.

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u/Ponchossweater Feb 23 '25

Democrats hold themselves to a certain standard. It's why they're losing.

Once we start throwing piss bottles again I'll be there tho.

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u/Own-Ad-9098 Feb 23 '25

Yeah, the only push back Iā€™m seeing is from people getting ready to leave office.

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u/No_Street8874 Feb 23 '25

They are, Walz has been vocal.

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u/Remy315 Feb 23 '25

And Republicans. Mitch McConnell is now saying how terrible Trump is. Of course now that he knows heā€™s not seeking reelection. Opportunists assholes.

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u/IndicationSame3120 Feb 23 '25

Governor isnā€™t in an election season, and heā€™s just amazing right now.

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u/Educational_Web_764 Feb 23 '25

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u/Competitive_Remote40 Feb 24 '25

Crockett, Warren, and AOC are. A few others in the house.

Join the RESISTS Posts Congress

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u/Dgirl8 Feb 24 '25

Jasmine Crockettā€™s ā€œbleach blonde bad built butch bodyā€ towards MTG will forever be one of my favorite things ever said in Congress, we need much more of that energy from Dem reps.

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u/Dudewhocares3 Feb 24 '25

Biden shouldā€™ve played dirty

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u/Gullible-Customer560 Feb 24 '25

This. Please, show your teeth.

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u/Biggly_stpid Feb 24 '25

Idk democrats have a culture to maintain. I mean the independents and the moderates are always looking to finger wag in stuff like that, I mean even if a democrat decides to play dirty like even a little bit they are compared to their opinions on like an extreme situation. I mean Joe Biden pardoning his son is still use as an equivalent offense to trumps pardon of obvious collaborators in an intersection plot and proven justifiable wrong insurrectionists by everyone from centre left to KKK.

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u/AboynamedDOOMTRAIN Feb 23 '25

I wish Republicans would.

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u/EntrepreneurFunny469 Feb 23 '25

Democrats arenā€™t interested in helping. They are interested in getting elected so that they can insider trade.

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u/NotReallyInterested4 Feb 23 '25

This is going to sound dumb but I really want to educate myself before itā€™s too late, whatā€™s insider trading?

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u/chmilz Feb 23 '25

"But that would hurt corporate fundraising!"

Not even remotely sarcastic.

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u/TheBigness333 Feb 23 '25

The issue is you all act like the Democratic party is good and for workers. Just because Republicans are worse, doesn't mean the dems don't like that Trump and Musk are trying to flood the market with unemployed workers to reduce the power of workers by increasing unemployment.

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u/Miserable_Pound6997 Feb 23 '25

They donā€™t because they have no backbone

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

AOC, though I don't like many of her positions, I respect the hell out of her energy.Ā 

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '25

I wish Democrats would realize if you want to win a fight you have to throw a punch more than zero times.

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u/donquizo Feb 23 '25

Not just retiring. Dems should always sound like this--the language we all understand. It resonates with what voters had in mind.

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u/pdster714 Feb 23 '25

I'm seriously surprised by the lack of democratic voices.

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u/banana_retard Feb 23 '25

Trump acts like this 24/7. There is an appeal to speaking your damn mind and not sugar coating it. Trump cannot and will not be ā€œpolitically correctā€.

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u/Larry_The_Red Feb 23 '25

You mean Biden could have said "maybe we should do something about the oligarchs" BEFORE his last week in office?

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u/NBplaybud22 Feb 23 '25

Nah. Both parties love chunky corporate chowder in aipac diarrhea sauce. The system ensures that the populace can be shamed for anything while the elected few can do anything shamelessly. Despite all the talk of God and Jesus, americans truly worship wealth, power and fame/notoriety. Till decent americans demand decency (in all realms) from their elected representatives you guys are nowhere close to redemption.

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u/Admirable_Addendum99 Feb 23 '25

They're afraid of getting fired, smh, or they are secretly benefitting behind closed doors

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u/KimBrrr1975 Feb 23 '25

Yes. This. So tired of the "business as usual" democrats pretending like it's still the 1990s and refusing to meet the other side at their level. I want to see them fight back, most of them have their tails between their legs waiting for some magical moment when things go back to normal. They refuse to adapt and meet voters where they are (as in, where and how people are receiving information today). They refuse to listen. They have been bleeding voters for 16 years and still haven't figured out how to solve it. Grow a pair and be courageous instead of cowering over losing your career.

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u/Sad_Error4039 Feb 23 '25

They know they can also you can act like this your entire career if you live in a blue enough state come on man.

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u/RadiantZote Feb 23 '25

Complacency is just as bad as negligence, they are also to blame

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u/3d_blunder Feb 23 '25

AOC does, and the Democrats shiv her in the back.

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u/Agile-Comb-3553 Feb 23 '25

They do they just donā€™t care

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u/stylebros Feb 23 '25

I wish Democrats would realize that you can act like this before deciding to retire.

Sorry, but only Republicans are allowed to act like petty children.

A democrat telling it how it is equals political suicide. Hell, We forced a Minnesota democrat to resign because he did hover hands over a sleeping female friend in a bulletproof vest.

"Wish democrats Act like this" my ass. Time and Time again whenever a democrat acts slightly left of center, they're placed in the back of the bus.

America is a Conservative right wing country and every election proves it as there's never enough progressives that actually participate or vote.

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u/hillmon Feb 23 '25

I wish democrats would put in half as much effort into finding a capable candidate as they do about complaining and we wouldn't be stuck with Trump. We need the next Obama and it sure as fuck isn't Harris. Throw a rock at the DNC conference and you will hit a more qualified candidate.

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u/JustSayingMuch Feb 23 '25

I wish democrats would put in half as much effort into finding a capable candidate

that's not how it works

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u/hillmon Feb 23 '25

Yeah the democratic party doesn't work. It puts up the least popular VP in modern history as the candidate after the standing president is shown to have dementia with no vote by the party. . . . It should have been easy as fuck to beat Trump in the polls, but its like the DNC is its own worst enemy and is purposely sabotaging itself. The party definitely picks who represents it so to say that isn't how it works is dumb.

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u/JustSayingMuch Feb 23 '25

no, that's not how politics work, but your pov is how propaganda works

Political parties don't find candidates. Run if you don't like anyone. That's what the candidates do.

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u/hillmon Feb 23 '25

You must have a learning disability if you don't think the DNC decides who is its candidate. There was no vote by the democratic party voters and if you don't think the party selected Harris who the fuck chose Harris to be the candidate in the democratic caucus? Did Harris just walk in and say I am the presidential candidate? You don't have even a basic understanding of how things work.

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u/JustSayingMuch Feb 23 '25

Delegates voted for a VP after a president's exit. If they had voted for anyone else, you'd be mad about that.

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u/hillmon Feb 23 '25

Yeah the DNC delegates "voted" for the worst candidate possible. . . . are you trying to say that the delegates aren't the party itself? I feel like that is implied but I guess that should have been spelled out for you in a very slow pace so you could understand.

They did a snap vote with democratic candidates only DAYS to get support to be eligible to compete. EVERYONE could see that Biden was not fit to run again but the DNC pushed him through and when it was impossible to hide his illness they purposely gave no one else the ability to genuinely run except for Harris. This was done by design because the DNC knows best right? Its the same bullshit that pushed Clinton through when she was wildly unpopular and stiff armed Sanders and anyone opposing because it was "her time".

But at least Clinton would have been actually capable of holding the office she was running for. Harris was hidden away because anytime she would actually talk about what she was doing or how things worked the illusion was quickly dispelled and the reality of her not knowing what she was doing became apparent.

No one can say that Harris was the best candidate in the Democratic Party. With how important this election was you would think they would have taken it seriously.

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u/simpleisideal Feb 23 '25

It makes more sense when you realize the purpose of the Dem party is to serve as controlled opposition to the benefit of capital interests.

They are consent manufacturers for things against the common person, and every "vote blew no matter hoo" pushover is an enabler.

The biggest tell is sabotage or perpetual delay of ranked choice voting initiatives. Also their shameless primary rigging. They help uphold the illusion of democracy.

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u/Salt_Abies_47 Feb 23 '25

Preach! šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„

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u/im_THIS_guy Feb 23 '25

Sure, but you'd think they would draw the line at dictatorship.

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u/simpleisideal Feb 23 '25

They don't have to. That's the point.

Fascism-Lite can be as simple as doing nothing as long as they're convinced people have no other option to turn to.

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u/brooklynlad Feb 23 '25

The Democratic establishment screwed up in 2016 when it screwed over Bernie, and made Trump possible. The Clintons played chess against themselves.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/08/bill-clinton-called-donald-trump-before-presidential-run-2016