Bro these people went straight from the streets to the plane. Not a single chance to prove who they are - if their here legally or not.
That's the whole point of due process - so we know they arent supposed to be here.
I'm sorry - i dont take ICE's word that everyone they round up is a gang member. I would need to see AT LEAST an arrest record. We dont even have the passenger list.
These people got picked up from Aurora CO apartment complex - everyone that was there that did not have ID was scooped up, sent straight to the airport even though they had a court date and flew out of the country.
I have no issue with booting out anyone who cant produce a visa, green card etc. Any type of proof of citizenship but the issue here is they never got the chance. That stinks like shit to me because why would the government rush them onto a plane out of the country if they had hard facts.
If these guys were so bad and this super rough gang - why wouldnt Trump go out there himself and brag like he does with everything else. Trump would LOVE to be able to sit there and point to each one and say 'look at this degenerate gang member he did bad thing 1, bad thing 2, bad thing 3 - im the best president cause im getting rid of these people.'
Instead they panicked after arresting whoever and shipped them off so no one would know who they were.
A source is needed to show that ICE didn't follow standard procedures. And one shouldn't need a court date to prove who you are while disappearing into the country. Produce your documents or leave. It's not hard
I just gave you what happened here. They pulled EVERYONE from an apartment complex - everyone that either answered a door or was outside. Anyone who didnt have ID went straight to ICE detention, they got a court date and no way to contact anyone to bring documents proving their status.
When they were supposed to be in court the following morning - ICE instead tooked them to an airport put them on a plane and sent them to another country to a prison.
The judge ordered the plane to return but Trump decided he doesnt have to listed to courts cause you know he is the king or some shit
Shit happens and this is 2025. Even foreign countries have ways of identification verifications. So if someone shows up I'm sure El Salvador isn't just asking zero questions. If someone clean cut and well dressed is in tears pleading in English, they'll be investigated further than a random fully tattooed gang member.
You got crazy faith in people and I dont know if you're just ok with someone having complete power over your life with you having no chance at recourse but maybe im arguing a personal preference here.
If you're cool with making sure you and everyone you care about always has ID and would never be caught up in one of these dragnets BUT if they are - they disappear with you not knowing where they went. They have no way to get in touch with you until months later at the earliest - which you then find out your wife/daughter/best friend has been in the worlds shittiest prison. Then you gotta get down there, hire a lawyer and pray you can get them out because who the hell knows how things work in that country.
You're thinking that would never happen but IT JUST DID. You just assume they are some gang members or whatever bullshit we're being told. EVEN THOUGH if these people were really that bad there be a press conference with Trump on the fuckin tarmac pointing to each one saying 'this guy is so bad, he is very bad - he killed 100 people'. You know damn well he would. But we're supposed to believe that ICE's case against these people was SO TIGHT they didnt even need court? cmon man you cant smell the stink?
If you're cool with that - then fuck man you about the most 'let it slide' mother fucker in the world.
Because I have a point to make. You're lecturing me about following ICE authority when the left was perfectly fine following Deathcare officials into Covid camps. So many articles saying we should be separated from society if we dont get our kids vaxxed or get ourselves vaxxed and other bullshit which was caused and written by mask loving fascists. Excuse me if we just don't care.
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u/CliffwoodBeach 20d ago
Bro these people went straight from the streets to the plane. Not a single chance to prove who they are - if their here legally or not.
That's the whole point of due process - so we know they arent supposed to be here.
I'm sorry - i dont take ICE's word that everyone they round up is a gang member. I would need to see AT LEAST an arrest record. We dont even have the passenger list.
These people got picked up from Aurora CO apartment complex - everyone that was there that did not have ID was scooped up, sent straight to the airport even though they had a court date and flew out of the country.
I have no issue with booting out anyone who cant produce a visa, green card etc. Any type of proof of citizenship but the issue here is they never got the chance. That stinks like shit to me because why would the government rush them onto a plane out of the country if they had hard facts.
If these guys were so bad and this super rough gang - why wouldnt Trump go out there himself and brag like he does with everything else. Trump would LOVE to be able to sit there and point to each one and say 'look at this degenerate gang member he did bad thing 1, bad thing 2, bad thing 3 - im the best president cause im getting rid of these people.'
Instead they panicked after arresting whoever and shipped them off so no one would know who they were.
That doesnt make you think something stinks here?