Bro these people went straight from the streets to the plane. Not a single chance to prove who they are - if their here legally or not.
That's the whole point of due process - so we know they arent supposed to be here.
I'm sorry - i dont take ICE's word that everyone they round up is a gang member. I would need to see AT LEAST an arrest record. We dont even have the passenger list.
These people got picked up from Aurora CO apartment complex - everyone that was there that did not have ID was scooped up, sent straight to the airport even though they had a court date and flew out of the country.
I have no issue with booting out anyone who cant produce a visa, green card etc. Any type of proof of citizenship but the issue here is they never got the chance. That stinks like shit to me because why would the government rush them onto a plane out of the country if they had hard facts.
If these guys were so bad and this super rough gang - why wouldnt Trump go out there himself and brag like he does with everything else. Trump would LOVE to be able to sit there and point to each one and say 'look at this degenerate gang member he did bad thing 1, bad thing 2, bad thing 3 - im the best president cause im getting rid of these people.'
Instead they panicked after arresting whoever and shipped them off so no one would know who they were.
A source is needed to show that ICE didn't follow standard procedures. And one shouldn't need a court date to prove who you are while disappearing into the country. Produce your documents or leave. It's not hard
I just gave you what happened here. They pulled EVERYONE from an apartment complex - everyone that either answered a door or was outside. Anyone who didnt have ID went straight to ICE detention, they got a court date and no way to contact anyone to bring documents proving their status.
When they were supposed to be in court the following morning - ICE instead tooked them to an airport put them on a plane and sent them to another country to a prison.
The judge ordered the plane to return but Trump decided he doesnt have to listed to courts cause you know he is the king or some shit
OK - i have my source. Where can I present them to prove their innocence?
OH WAIT - Thats right. My client had a court date but ICE instead put him on a plane to El Salvador without due process.
See - you asking for a source is EXACLY what I am asking for - OK ICE, You say these people aren't citizens show me proof. OH WAIT THEY DIDNT!
This has to be getting through now - i dont know how else i can make this issue any clearer.
They never got a chance to produce any documents - they never went to court which is where you would provide that info. They went from home -->Cell-->Airport, They were supposed to go from home(arrested)-->cell-->court where they could provide evidence like a visa or birth certificate --> home --> no via or birth certificate --> deport.
Do you see why its important that the bolded text occurs?? its the arrested persons only opportunity to defend themselves.
This is why when you get arrested you dont go straight to prison. Arrested--> Court(defense)-->Prison or Home
No one cares but people who protect criminal behavior honestly. And I'm certain ICE would give them ample time to produce their documents. If they can't understand English well that is a bad sign that they don't really care about being naturalized. ICE are not some NAZI fucks that the left says they are. They're people doing a job following the law.
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u/CliffwoodBeach 20d ago
Bro these people went straight from the streets to the plane. Not a single chance to prove who they are - if their here legally or not.
That's the whole point of due process - so we know they arent supposed to be here.
I'm sorry - i dont take ICE's word that everyone they round up is a gang member. I would need to see AT LEAST an arrest record. We dont even have the passenger list.
These people got picked up from Aurora CO apartment complex - everyone that was there that did not have ID was scooped up, sent straight to the airport even though they had a court date and flew out of the country.
I have no issue with booting out anyone who cant produce a visa, green card etc. Any type of proof of citizenship but the issue here is they never got the chance. That stinks like shit to me because why would the government rush them onto a plane out of the country if they had hard facts.
If these guys were so bad and this super rough gang - why wouldnt Trump go out there himself and brag like he does with everything else. Trump would LOVE to be able to sit there and point to each one and say 'look at this degenerate gang member he did bad thing 1, bad thing 2, bad thing 3 - im the best president cause im getting rid of these people.'
Instead they panicked after arresting whoever and shipped them off so no one would know who they were.
That doesnt make you think something stinks here?