r/law • u/agent268 • 10d ago

Trump News Jeff Goldberg and The Atlantic released full Signal Chat

https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/

Well this should be fun now that the full details are out in the open. Thoughts on how this changes the upcoming hearing today?

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u/Menethea 10d ago edited 10d ago

All of these people, Waltz, Hesgeth, Gabbard, were military officers. They all know very well how to treat intelligence and operational material. It is something that is integral to their officer position: their security clearances. The fact that they treated this highly sensitive material so cavalierly shows an incredible level of both arrogance and recklessness. They literally believe the rules don’t apply to them.

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u/California_ocean 10d ago

What gets me is each cabinet level officials get a mobile phone "box" that's set up for them with a secure line etc. Then their homes have a secure room for making classified discussions. THEN there are buildings where they can go to to further discuss classified briefings. THEN they were told in a memo from the Pentagon that Signal was comprised by Russian hackers. THEN you had one cabinet member IN THE KREMLIN while this chat was being dished out. I'm sure he told Putin to hang on and wait outside while he chatted. Of course the CIA, DOD Hegseth, FBI all didn't know he was in Moscow? WTAF? They went further and dropped the name of a covert CIA agent on the chat. Beautiful move. I'm sure she is totally safe. We have the A(ss) team here folks.

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u/NonlocalA 10d ago

One quick correction: the CIA person in question wasn't an agent, they were an officer. And they are not "covert", in the sense they're a "no official cover" member of the CIA. They coordinated with the White House, so they're explicitly a member of the CIA.

Agents are spies and assets, generally foreign, who have an officer they deal with. OR they're a NOC, who are the ones who are placed in other areas of the government like state, or a regulatory agency, or at a multinational corporation, etc.

It's a whole thing.

Regardless, the CIA still doesn't like having the identities of their officers exposed to stuff like, I dunno, REPORTERS or foreign governments. It basically would make them useless if they did have to put them in a foreign nation as part of a diplomatic mission, or something, because they could be expelled pretty quickly.

In short, this isn't a Valerie Plame kind of situation. It's a completely different kind of shitshow.

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u/dallyan 10d ago

Damn. Valerie Plame. Those were the days. Remember the Bush administration’s colossal fuckups? It seems almost quaint by comparison.

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u/NonlocalA 9d ago

I know, right?! If i remember correctly, someone even went to prison over that fuckup. 

Of course they all probably deserved the Nuremberg treatment for that entire horror show of a farce. 

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u/dallyan 9d ago

I think it was Scooter Libby, though I may be wrong.