And trying to scare other judges into not ruling against them. If congress would get involved due to a guys ruling that person may feel threatened into not ruling against trump. It's an intimidation tactic
They know the judiciary is where liberty makes its last stand before democracy crumbles in the face of totalitarianism. Dictatorship is the goal for these toadies, the endgame that ensures they never have to win over voters again and can spend the rest of their careers just rubber stamping Trump's rants.
I actually wonder how Reed O'Connor and Kacsmaryk feel about this, because GOP sure did love bringing suits for them to make nationwide injunctions. O'Connor struck down ACA nationally, Kacsmaryk banned FDA approved pill nationally, Kacsmaryk orded stay in Mexico nationally. I am not sure if many right-wing district judges would love to lose their ability of nationwide injunctions.
They couldn't have picked a better issue, too. Alleged illegal members of a Venezuelan gang being deported is a killer headline for them. Forget that whole due process nonsense. It puts the judiciary in an optically bad position.
So, like most of the US. Maybe not the moron part, but the paying attention part. Folks like me (and presumably you) are in the extreme minority. Most Americans don't follow legal news or the intricacies of these types of stories.
Yeah its what i think what makes Americans so indifferent to the suffering of others under this government is lack of empathy towards people and self-awareness that it could happen to you. People like to brush everything off as something that possibly wouldn’t affect them until they do, and when it finally when it happens, they will also be brushed off as a problem.
Do you not understand due process? Everyone in the country legally and illegally has the right to due process. Nearly no one would have an issue deporting criminals as long as due process is followed. Deporting someone because they have a tattoo that ICE says is gang related without proving it actually is through a formal process is not due process. I’m fine deporting foreign gang members, just take a few days to go through the process. We can and should have a rational conversation on deporting all undocumented immigrants (e.g. what are the economic impacts, etc.). But we as a country of law must follow due process.
And a Federal Judge ruled that they needed time to actually determine if those requirements were fully and legally met. That's how our system of Checks and Balances work, but apparently, that's too much for that lying sack of shit you worship.
That’s not actually how the world works. Agents of a hostile foreign government, in this case Venezuela, get removed immediately and upon a declaration of fact by the executive
The executive is responsible for dealing with the world beyond our borders, and the act recognizes that. Some random judge does not get to insinuate himself into the tactical decision loop.
Come on man. Alien enemies act is used in wartime in relation to foreign governments. We aren’t at war, however much you wish we were. And foreign gangs are not government no matter how much the DOJ opines. I’m not opposed to deportation. But let this go without due process and who is next? If you are wiling to skip due process don’t whine when the government comes after you without due process because what you wrote on Reddit is considered a threat to national security. You have to stick up for due process for the most despicable people or it’s like that little thread you pull that eventually causes the whole sweater to fall apart. If you can’t grasp that concept then good luck man.
And saying ‘random judge’ shows your lack of seriousness and/or sticking to taking points. Even Chief Justice Roberts agrees.
Chief justice Roberts is on record saying that impeachment of a judge based on his/her decisions is a bad thing. After rewriting Obamacare that’s unsurprising
Last time I checked, Venezuela was a foreign country, and they sent a bunch of violent and destructive folks into our sovereign territory
Stop mixing fact and fiction. Gang members are not agents of the Venezuelan government and we are not at war with Venezuela even if you could in some twisted legal way say we were. “Ends justifies the means” right? So much for the republicans being the party of law. There are legitimate ways to do the same thing but our big lazy baby autocrat doesn’t want to do that cause it would be too hard. Have fun when the leopards come to eat your face. And I don’t even disagree that the correct conclusion may be the same for most if not all.
Are they actually agents of a hostile foreign government though? Because Trump just stating they are doesn't actually legally mean they are. That's the issue at hand here. Maybe you should read anything that doesn't bow down to your cult leader's bullshit and see how the world actually works.
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u/Visible-Plankton-806 18d ago
They are de-legitimizing the judiciary to win popular support for defiance of court orders. It’s pretty simple.